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August 15, 2014, 08:18:04 PM
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Don't send unsolicited pm's advertising your services, it is considered spam.

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I am politely asking people for opinions and comments on my thread. I am not telling them to invest or buy my shares.
I think it is closer to a survey. If they do not like it they can write back to me directly. I do not use any bots or other automated systems.

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August 15, 2014, 09:11:39 PM
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I am politely asking people for opinions and comments on my thread. I am not telling them to invest or buy my shares.
I think it is closer to a survey. If they do not like it they can write back to me directly. I do not use any bots or other automated systems.

Still spam, don't do it.

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August 16, 2014, 10:13:53 AM
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And apart from the above I just want to socialize a bit. On some 100+ PM's I got only 1 negative comment and 1 PM "not interested". And some 3 people from the list signed in on the platform. So of course I will be criticized for spamming but it is highly effective in my opinion;)

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August 16, 2014, 10:20:47 AM
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And apart from the above I just want to socialize a bit. On some 100+ PM's I got only 1 negative comment and 1 PM "not interested". And some 3 people from the list signed in on the platform. So of course I will be criticized for spamming but it is highly effective in my opinion;)

I am politely asking people for opinions and comments on my thread. I am not telling them to invest or buy my shares.
I think it is closer to a survey. If they do not like it they can write back to me directly. I do not use any bots or other automated systems.

Still spam, don't do it.

What part of badbears sentence didnt you understand , the spam or the don't do it part ? A report could yield you a ban , just sayin...

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August 16, 2014, 11:48:57 AM
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How about this:
Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas using one's body and property to anyone who is willing to receive them. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.

If I am sending PMs manually and each is unique in the sense that it is addressed to a certain person and say there is content related to this person's activities or interests it should not be treated as a spam.  The feedback is in general positive and some people signed in to our platform. This means that my information has a value for them. I do not ask for joining the platform but rather for opinion on the business model, the website etc. So as long as nobody is complaining and reporting me it is Ok. At least there should be something on the user's account saying for instance "No spam!" or some other warning. I know how sensitive this matter is and I am not going to flood this forum with spam as it would result in negative consequences for me and my business. I am just trying to find some balance.  Please note that some people not only do not mind my PM's but actually are doing what I am asking for.

And basically all I want is feedback on the thread not to join kryptologika.

It is something like knocking to someone's door saying Hello and asking: "Have you heard about bitcoin?" -and there are options:
a) slam the door
b) listen perhaps there is a valid information from the messenger





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August 16, 2014, 12:45:51 PM
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It is something like knocking to someone's door saying Hello and asking: "Have you heard about bitcoin?" -and there are options:
a) slam the door
b) listen perhaps there is a valid information from the messenger

It's spam. If people are interested in your service, they can read your thread. That's why we have this forum. Why do you want to spam everybody with PM's? If I get this type of PM I'll definitely report it.
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August 16, 2014, 01:04:53 PM
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If people are interested in your service, they can read your thread ??
I think I am missing something.
Only if people read my thread they may get interested. They do not read it because they do not know about it's existence.

It is clear I will not send you anything pandacoin and thank you for your response.

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Let's think about every service provider doing the same thing as you do. What will it cause? Spam.
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Actually they are not doing this for some reasons I guess it is too much time consuming. If they do they use automated spam.
What I am doing is a kind of manual/personal survey and I do not solicit my business directly. It is about communication between people. And even more. Restricting me from communicating with other forum members in this way is limiting me as a Bitcoin enterpreneur, I cannot develop my services I cannot present my business model etc. Not good for bitcoin economy. I think you should rather support such actions no matter if someone is reporting this as spam.

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August 16, 2014, 02:48:12 PM
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If people are interested in your service, they can read your thread ??
I think I am missing something.
Only if people read my thread they may get interested. They do not read it because they do not know about it's existence.

You can let them know by other means:

- you can rent ad slots on this forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731988.0
- you can pay people to put a link to your site or thread in their signatures
- you can PM people that have elsewhere on the forum recently voiced interest in paying for services similar to yours

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If I am sending PMs manually and each is unique in the sense that it is addressed to a certain person and say there is content related to this person's activities or interests it should not be treated as a spam.
 

So far your messages (at least the three that I saw) where all the same, simply adding "Hi <username>" at the beginning of the PM doesn't make it any less spammy.

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The feedback is in general positive and some people signed in to our platform. This means that my information has a value for them.


What about those that report your PMs? What have they gained from your message? Tongue

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I do not ask for joining the platform but rather for opinion on the business model, the website etc. So as long as nobody is complaining and reporting me it is Ok.

Asking to join, asking for an opinion, "special" offers - doesn't matter. Don't PM them unless you have a very good reason to suspect whoever you're PM'ing is going to be interested.

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At least there should be something on the user's account saying for instance "No spam!" or some other warning.

It works the other way around, if they specifically say "PM me" in their signature or personal text field or somewhere else, or otherwise indicate they're interested (e.g. by looking for advice which cloud services they could use), then it is OK to PM them.

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Please note that some people not only do not mind my PM's but actually are doing what I am asking for.

Key word some.

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And basically all I want is feedback on the thread not to join kryptologika.

It is something like knocking to someone's door saying Hello and asking: "Have you heard about bitcoin?" -and there are options:
a) slam the door
b) listen perhaps there is a valid information from the messenger

If you knock on my door I can decide whether I want to let you in or not. By PM'ing people you aren't giving them a choice.

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Restricting me from communicating with other forum members in this way is limiting me as a Bitcoin enterpreneur, I cannot develop my services I cannot present my business model etc.

Others are doing fine without having to resort to spamming.

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I think you should rather support such actions no matter if someone is reporting this as spam.

If we "supported such actions" no one would bother using PMs anymore because going to the Inbox would means having to sift through hundreds of messages from Bitcoin "entrepreneurs"  Roll Eyes

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I know how sensitive this matter is and I am not going to flood this forum with spam as it would result in negative consequences for me and my business. I am just trying to find some balance.
 

Good

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If I am sending PMs manually and each is unique in the sense that it is addressed to a certain person and say there is content related to this person's activities or interests it should not be treated as a spam.
  

So far your messages (at least the three that I saw) where all the same, simply adding "Hi <username>" at the beginning of the PM doesn't make it any less spammy.

I said "If". I am just thinking of the strategy aloud. The ones you saw were identical but some of them had some unique content, for exaple the ones to females;)

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Too many rulemakers and moderators acting with impunity will leave this place like some forum of despotic tyranny.I have had a post deleted simply because I wished someone a happy birthday and even though it was their birthday the post was deemed off topic.Could not respond to complain because the guy who deleted it never sent a reply option.Getting a bit like china here.
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Is posting articles with a link and the first paragraph into press acceptable use of that sub forum?  I notice alot of people are doing this without adding any commentary/opinions of their own.  To me it seems like spam and unconstructive and only purpose is to get post counts up for signature campaigns or building up account to sell at a later date :\

Just want some clarification about that

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Entertaining threads are, by definition, not useless.

True. Problem is, most of this forum is entertaining in one way or another, I'm only here three weeks (2 lurking) and I'm already trying to kick the habit Smiley

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Hello I would really like to advertise our site properly but I should gain the privilege to do so.
How many posts or time does it require to have images enabled ?
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Hello I would really like to advertise our site properly but I should gain the privilege to do so.
How many posts or time does it require to have images enabled ?

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I‘d like this implemented.
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1. Free speech
5. No NSFW content

Please read 5, then read 1, then read 5, then read 1 and tell me if you see a problem.

Can I say "fat cock" if I present it in a calm and polite manner?




agree, it is free speech, why NO NSFW content?
so ironic...
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1. Free speech
5. No NSFW content
Please read 5, then read 1, then read 5, then read 1 and tell me if you see a problem.

Can I say "fat cock" if I present it in a calm and polite manner?
agree, it is free speech, why NO NSFW content?
so ironic...

  • Yes, you can say.
  • You can put NSFW content if you clearly warn people in subject. There are a lot of examples in this forum.

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