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June 20, 2018, 02:34:56 PM
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Do you want the details? The first thread of some weeks ago was about how the Korean government started using blockchain for their own purposes. I was deeply baffled when I saw it deleted, while value-less new comments about e.g. Satoshi's identity stay.

This is a bitcion forum. If it was a thread merely about blockchain tech used by the Korean government in Bitcoin Discussion then that's probably why it was trashed. Unless it's related to bitcoin then it'll be trashed or moved into the appropriate sub.

And today? I started a thread discussing the new Metronome coin and its unusual sale strategy. I even got replies. What was my sin here? Is a decreasing price sale more meaningless than the n-th post about how great or horrible BTC is without any argument, or often without any grammatical structure? Was my sin the fact that I mention I'll buy some Metronome?

Earnest replies appreciated. I'm a noob on the forum trying to discuss what I deem to be serious questions and points, because this is how I view this whole story. I have some respect for what is going on here, so I'm baffled by my posts seemingly being considered pointless and insulting, while I'm kept in the dark as to why this is so.

Did you post it in Bitcoin Discussion? If so, then discussion about alt coins doesn't belong there. Threads containing ref links or just 'buy this coin' threads are also trashed.

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June 20, 2018, 11:48:37 PM
Last edit: June 22, 2018, 06:34:08 AM by chipr
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The policy to not remove anything worked when the forum was small. Now that we have thousands of posts a day, we can't afford 50% of them being junk. The moderators are now instructed to be less tolerant of low-value posts.

Some guidelines:

1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.
2. No zero value posts or threads, like "SELL SELL SELL"
3. No pointless or uninteresting threads.
4. No referral code spam
5. No NSFW content

A step in a wrong direction. Now moderators will decide which posts have "low value", which posts are "uninteresting" or "pointless". In practice moderators will delete everything they don't like. The words "free speech" above are thus an obvious lie.


I agree with most of what @unemployed has mentioned, which is also repeated in numerous other posts in this thread, on the principle of terms being vague or non-specific and solely subject to individual interpretation. Words like "pointless" or especially "uninteresting" are completely subjective and therefore subject to any particular moderators personal feelings, mood, or selective scrutiny.

Also some rule categories are mixed within the same numbered points for example:


1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is...  <-- Mixed in other rules that are unrelated to the concept of Free Speech.  

2. No zero value posts or threads, like "SELL SELL SELL" <-- Strike out, ought to be grouped with/covered by 4.

3. No pointless or uninteresting threads. <-- Covered by 2.

4. No referral codes spam; <-- except in signature (for example)

5. No NSFW content <-- Covered by 1, if drafted correctly (currently 1 includes like minded rules mixed in with "Free Speech" making it a contradiction in terms).

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I'm not going to propose a rewrite for each of these 1-5, but just add on here for clarity. I believe my post makes the intended point about being more succinct in the rulemaking, not lengthier but specific.

1. Free Speech - Every member has an equal right to express their opinion regardless of forum rank without being subject to removal, harassment, or other derogatory statements.

2. No zero value posts or threads. -    , like "SELL SELL SELL"   If the post does not add value to the topic, or is off topic, then it is considered spam.

3. ...   Remove, this is covered thoroughly by 2. People know, or will learn, when their post does not "Add Value" and this is not as subjective as "uninteresting" currently stated in the existing 3 (which has no relevance).

4. No referral codes except in signature. As stated above.

5. No NSFW content Too subjective and non-specific. Replace with rules that over rule all others, i.e., Hate speech of any kind, harassment of other members or coins/projects, spamming incl. cross referral selling, will NOT be tolerated and members posting in this manner may be subject to immediate ban.

 

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June 22, 2018, 01:44:57 PM
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if I present it in a calm and polite manner..think of it like this you have freedom of speech in the presence of your mother, but would you choose your words more carefully...now that we have thousands of posts every day we can't afford of them...
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June 23, 2018, 03:46:21 PM
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Sometimes I wonder why my messages are being deleted, reason why I stopped posting. But I am now guided of what to be posted. Hope moderator will be easy on our postings
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June 26, 2018, 02:48:42 PM
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where I can learn the rules of this forum?

Go to the Home on your BCT account there you will see the Bitcoin Forum Tab.
Then scroll down and click on the Topic "Other" there you can find the sub subject "Beginner & Help" now click on it and then again scroll down and click on "Newbies-Read before posting" here you can read the rules of Bitcoin Forum.
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July 01, 2018, 09:16:40 AM
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Most times o make a post and it is deleted without any explanation as to why it was deleted. Can someone tell me why posts get deleted when it's not abusive, shout, spam or links?
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July 01, 2018, 09:19:33 AM
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Most times o make a post and it is deleted without any explanation as to why it was deleted. Can someone tell me why posts get deleted when it's not abusive, shout, spam or links?
I commend the moderators for being very active, but I'll be guided as to why posts are just deleted outrightly, it will help
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July 02, 2018, 02:24:03 AM
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To do so is reasonable. a way to fit the system. Participants will limit the spam, the content does not mean
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July 02, 2018, 05:32:25 AM
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Most times o make a post and it is deleted without any explanation as to why it was deleted. Can someone tell me why posts get deleted when it's not abusive, shout, spam or links?
I commend the moderators for being very active, but I'll be guided as to why posts are just deleted outrightly, it will help
Most likely, it had to do with other rules (what you're seeing on this thread, it's just a few rules [refer to: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ]).
- Also there's this:

23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.[e]

23. This rule is meant to prevent from users exploiting possible loopholes in the rules or some interpretations that follow the literal meaning of the rule rather than the meaning of what it truly wanted to prevent.

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July 02, 2018, 08:33:12 AM
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Most times o make a post and it is deleted without any explanation as to why it was deleted. Can someone tell me why posts get deleted when it's not abusive, shout, spam or links?

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A small selection from your posts which have escaped deletion.
These are referred to as shit posts or spam, they add no value to the discussion and are routinely deleted by moderators under official anti spam policy.
Post when you have something of interest to say, not just for the sake of increasing your post count, probably to get some sats/exposure for your signature (which doesn't work).
Shape up or ship out. (google it)

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July 02, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
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what are the things should i know or learn about this forum ? Someonee help me  Cry Cry
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July 02, 2018, 12:16:38 PM
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what are the things should i know or learn about this forum ? Someonee help me  Cry Cry

Read.
And don't post rubbish.

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July 09, 2018, 02:51:09 AM
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Hello there guys, how can I earn a merit? cause I don't have one. And they said that you need it for you to rank up? is that right?
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July 09, 2018, 02:59:03 AM
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Hello there guys, how can I earn a merit? cause I don't have one. And they said that you need it for you to rank up? is that right?
You earn merits by posting helpful information. That is correct you need some merits for the next rank. You can read more about it here.


Edit : If you still have some questions start a thread on Beginners and Help.

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July 12, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
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How does one determine low value of a post?
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July 17, 2018, 06:54:50 AM
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Either ways you can edit your post after it is being posted on a thread. So i don't think that should be the focus on this forum. How about implementing Vote pools, or Add job option to the Home forums. I know I the place can be vandalized but with strict forum moderator the place can turn out good. Because there are so many job opportunities in cryptocurrency. Without a special thread for it, posting job opportunities around other threads will still be regarded spam. I stand to be corrected though. Just adding up... 
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July 19, 2018, 01:19:15 PM
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I really think post are regularized or categorized by moderators rather than calling it crap or low value post easily. And I it is a great help for newbies and let them give a boost of motivation.
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July 19, 2018, 03:02:55 PM
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How does one determine low value of a post?
In most cases, it's quite obvious [1] but in some cases, it's subjective [23]:

[1]:
1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

1. Such posts like "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids,useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.

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23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.[e]

23. This rule is meant to prevent from users exploiting possible loopholes in the rules or some interpretations that follow the literal meaning of the rule rather than the meaning of what it truly wanted to prevent.

or Add job option to the Home forums.
We already have such board: "Services"

I really think post are regularized or categorized by moderators rather than calling it crap or low value post easily. And I it is a great help for newbies and let them give a boost of motivation.
It won't happen (not feasible - Requires way more manpower and it's really unnecessary [IMO]).

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July 19, 2018, 04:32:41 PM
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Its hard to move on if you not knowing what happening about spam. now is the time to make changes to the beginner of this bitcoin rules we need to reading searching wisely.
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How difficult would it be to implement a voting system for posts using the current forum software?
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