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June 21, 2011, 10:01:35 PM
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while i'm always pro transparency i see it's the right of the owners of this forum to delete as many posts as they want. you are free to leave. in fact i hope there will grow competition as with just one forum only, there is quite some power to manipulate the market by just randomly going offline.

I don't understand why this argument keeps coming up. Yes, of course it is their right to do what they please. I don't think wanton despotism is anyone's goal here, though. I'd like to discuss things instead of just having a hissy fit and leaving. Isn't that what forums are for - discussion?

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June 22, 2011, 06:36:54 AM
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while i'm always pro transparency i see it's the right of the owners of this forum to delete as many posts as they want. you are free to leave. in fact i hope there will grow competition as with just one forum only, there is quite some power to manipulate the market by just randomly going offline.

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We do need more than one Bitcoin forum. When a forum gets so big that they're basically telling people to "go away", and they start deleting posts left and right, with no consequent slowdown in signups, membership, or traffic -- that's tells ME (at least) that the market's now big enough for another forum.
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June 22, 2011, 07:03:37 AM
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People come here for the entertainment as much as the information so please don't doosh the forum with restrictive censorship.

It just makes you look like a
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June 22, 2011, 07:08:21 AM
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I don't mind moderation, when done in, well, moderation. I do mind when I cant judge whether the mods are doing their jobs well or not. I can't judge for myself if I agree a thread was out of line if it's been deleted.

Mods, if you feel you need to shut a thread down, why not just lock it? Some other forums feature a "trash bin" section where "deleted" threads go, still available to read, but not cluttering the main forums. Maybe this would be something to look into here?

Can anyone give a good reason why deleting a thread would be preferable to just locking it, absent legal reasons and other force majeure?

A lot of times, deleting threads rather than moving them is harder on the database as well. So there's that benefit.

However, I think the idea of just moving threads that you and others have suggested is great. But a trash bin is just as bad as deleting. People post bullshit so that others will read it. Nobody reads threads in the trash bin.

Having a specific "no rules" subforum has worked for a lot of big forums, and ones much rowdier than this one (Somethingawful has FYAD, 4chan has /b/, Offtopic has, well, I guess the main forum). If you give the idiots a specific place to play and call their own, they won't make irritating posts in other forums as often. Just make a forum with no rules except what is obviously illegal and let people post to their heart's content.

Or, wait, did I just describe the newbie forum?

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June 22, 2011, 06:26:52 PM
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<--- I'd like to be able to see the date someone signed up, without having to visit their profile page.


you can, essentially.

just put your mouse over a user's handle, on the left side of their post - then, on the status bar at the bottom left of your browser window (assuming you have the Status Bar enabled in "View"), that users registration number will show up in the form: "u=xxxxx (some number)"

for example, your number is 7361.  mine is 7795.  indicating that i signed up 434 user registrations after you did.

sirius' (the OP) user number is 4 - indicating that he's been here for awhile...
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June 22, 2011, 07:18:03 PM
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Read things that aren't there much?

Not particularly.

Do you also believe that posting "shi...erm, feces" constitutes using profanity?

I plainly use the word 'shit' in my own post, so am unlikely to read your allusion as profane.

Further, did you take the time to read any of my other posts (all 12) before lumping me in with "the ones most casually in breach of the new policy"?

I was responding to the post I quoted.


. . . frankly I have no idea why you would object to the rules that sirius has laid out.  None of them seem to apply to you.

I am not basing my opinions about what might be good or bad for a forum on what might be good or bad for me as an individual.
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June 22, 2011, 10:54:24 PM
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Your complete lack of any meaningful response to my defense of your ridiculous assertion pretty much says it all.

My point is far from ridiculous.

Uh huh.  So your answer is "No, I didn't read any of your other posts.  I made this blanket claim on the basis of a single post".  Super.

My post is not aimed at you in particular (and that is stated in my post), it aims to make the point that those seemingly most in favour of these new rules appear to be, if anything, more exposed to them than those questioning the need for them.

Heh, so what ARE you basing your opinions about what might be good or bad for the forum then?

I am basing ideas about what might be good or bad for a forum on what I think might be good or bad for a forum.

Your original response to my post in support of the OP can be summarized as "many of the people supporting sirius' rules are hypocrites, because they're the ones who've been breaking these rules in the past".

The 'in the past' part is an insertion, but, yes, generally that's the point being made, whilst perhaps not hypocritical (it seems like too strong a term) those in favour of the new rules are in danger of falling foul of those new rules as much as the 'ideologues' they seek to drive out of the forum.

Honestly, I fail to see how that's a valid argument in support of keeping this forum unmoderated.
It's not an argument, it's only supportive of an argument, it's only illustrative of a point.

The point is that setting in place limitations that people might find themselves casually in breach of (and here the point that some of those most vocal in their support are themselves culprits becomes illustrative) might have (my own opinion is 'will likely have') consequences that will do more to stymie a healthy and robust community spirit than a more laissez faire approach (but of course not giving free reign to naked abuse).



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June 22, 2011, 11:32:18 PM
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I have to admit, I'm amused at the irony that a thread with this one's original subject matter can devolve into an argument where both parties involved violate one or more of the conditions that they recently agreed to.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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June 23, 2011, 12:14:03 AM
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I'm not sure how to respond to that, other than to say "Good luck to you sir!"

Abso-fucking-lutely.  Wink

Good luck to you as well.
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June 23, 2011, 12:22:23 AM
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I'm not sure that £ has agreed to anything . . .

No, that's right, I've just expressed concern about a nascent culture of arbitrary approval, in itself not always a terrible thing, but time has shown it has proven itself to be corrosive to progress.
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June 24, 2011, 11:26:07 AM
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+1.5

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June 25, 2011, 02:34:32 AM
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1. Free speech
5. No NSFW content

Please read 5, then read 1, then read 5, then read 1 and tell me if you see a problem.

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June 27, 2011, 10:23:44 PM
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May I suggest a little change in the forum's policy?
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July 01, 2011, 05:39:37 AM
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I noticed I can't delete my own posts anymore.
I used to keep my posts count low, deleting from threads to stop being notified
now I can only edit the post but the delete link is gone
will it stay this way, please?

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July 01, 2011, 10:49:50 AM
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Please ban everyone who breaks the #2 rule.
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July 01, 2011, 11:16:56 AM
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Make a public viewable Trashcan board in Other so that mods can move all trash-topics to the trashcan.
The trashcan board should be locked for users to reply, only readable.
Helps to educate users and prevent more garbage, users can see what undesirable content is.

And if you want the board to be more serious you can create a "Humor" section so mods don't have to trash these, but just move to this board.
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July 07, 2011, 12:55:33 PM
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Can we please get some moderation on the thread in which the asshole lawyer filed a trademark claim on bitcoin?  I agree he's a jerk and I'd like to see him disbarred or disciplined for filing a fraudulent claim, but the "assassination market" posts are too much and should be deleted.  The world is watching, and as someone who is investing thousands of dollars in a Bitcoin related-business, I'm very concerned about the image these forums are giving the world.

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July 07, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
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July 07, 2011, 01:47:33 PM
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Can we please get some moderation on the thread in which the asshole lawyer filed a trademark claim on bitcoin?  I agree he's a jerk and I'd like to see him disbarred or disciplined for filing a fraudulent claim, but the "assassination market" posts are too much and should be deleted.  The world is watching, and as someone who is investing thousands of dollars in a Bitcoin related-business, I'm very concerned about the image these forums are giving the world.

Perhaps you should stop using $$ because people do stuff with that which is much more depraved. Not saying that justifies assassination markets, but, you can't fault a currency for what people do with it. Also--I'm not so confident the world is listening...if you are...WHAT UP!

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July 14, 2011, 01:45:39 AM
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A+ ruleset, IMHO.

Everyone knows bitcoins are too small for trolls to hold on to, anyway. Tongue

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