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July 15, 2013, 12:45:43 PM
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Sorry, but Unfortunately  our SMT-Line is broken. We wait for replacement parts. Delivery of Batch 3 is delayed for another 4 Weeks!

You forgot to say, 4 weeks after they first deliver all missing of batch 1 and 2 who still crying on forums being ignored. Should give something like 8 weeks from now...

If at least people was informed...receiving some expected communations from the team they funded...

Maybe they are trying to consolidate their orders with refunds (so they don't waste money on shipping to someone who is going to refuse it), and the large number of refund requests were unexpected.

I honestly don't see how they wouldn't expect a lot of refunds given the circumstances:

- their batch#3 pricing caused an outburst of rage, that went away only when they explained they were basing its price on a certain delivery date (May) when difficulty was expected to be 12 million and ROI aprox. 30 days

- the delay is huge, they say "a few weeks" in the latest newsletter, but it's actually "few months"

- ROI is getting more difficult by the day. As soon as we hit 35 million difficulty, it will become unlikely.

- other vendors have appeared with very good cost/GHs ratio (Bitfury, DIY projects, etc.)

- their first generation technology starts to feel like it's going to be rendered obsolete in a few months, not only because of competition but also because of their own 2nd gen

TL;DR - > if they did not expect massive refund requests they are leaving on another planet.

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July 15, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
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the best thing for everyone would be if they offered partial refunds, that way they keep some money and customers are all happy.
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July 15, 2013, 01:41:29 PM
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the best thing for everyone would be if they offered partial refunds, that way they keep some money and customers are all happy.

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July 15, 2013, 01:44:18 PM
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if anyone is in California and wants to sell their Avalons unboxed on arrival, i'll pay $3000 cash for each.
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July 15, 2013, 01:45:29 PM
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if anyone is in California and wants to sell their Avalons unboxed on arrival, i'll pay $3000 cash for each.

Refund is like $7800. I doubt you will get any at that price.
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July 15, 2013, 01:45:48 PM
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the best thing for everyone would be if they offered partial refunds, that way they keep some money and customers are all happy.

At the very least I would expect them to refund the cost of the PSUs they specifically said they won't be delivering now, for orders that included them.
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July 15, 2013, 01:46:34 PM
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At the very least I would expect them to refund the cost of the PSUs they specifically said they won't be delivering now, for orders that included them.

Where they said that ?
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July 15, 2013, 01:56:27 PM
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the best thing for everyone would be if they offered partial refunds, that way they keep some money and customers are all happy.

At the very least I would expect them to refund the cost of the PSUs they specifically said they won't be delivering now, for orders that included them.

I didn't see anything about them not shipping any units which had PSUs.
Source?

Also... a partial refund would be in the customer's best interests, but with chip sales in their pockets, full miners are nothing but a nuisance.  Yifu has stated very clearly on multiple occasions that he doesn't want to be a retail company (B2C).  All I can say is, be careful for what you wish.
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July 15, 2013, 05:36:21 PM
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At the very least I would expect them to refund the cost of the PSUs they specifically said they won't be delivering now, for orders that included them.

Where they said that ?

Actually - my mistake. I misread one of their emails. They said they are not shipping power cables with the units so the PSUs should still be included on orders that requested them.

Apologies!
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July 15, 2013, 06:10:02 PM
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the best thing for everyone would be if they offered partial refunds, that way they keep some money and customers are all happy.
Yeah, I would've preferred that as well, but forget it, they didn't go for it.

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July 15, 2013, 07:32:59 PM
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i am one of the first orders.  still nothing. i will keep you posted, unless no one cares i am the only one who did not refund :/ it is feeling that way

and yes, i would have loved a partial refund.  i hope i am not chasing my original bitcoin forever while watching others participate in the economy
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July 15, 2013, 07:33:53 PM
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i am one of the first orders.  still nothing. i will keep you posted, unless no one cares i am the only one who did not refund :/ it is feeling that way

and yes, i would have loved a partial refund.  i hope i am not chasing my original bitcoin forever while watching others participate in the economy

Whats ur order number ?
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July 15, 2013, 07:35:35 PM
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i am one of the first orders.  still nothing. i will keep you posted, unless no one cares i am the only one who did not refund :/ it is feeling that way

and yes, i would have loved a partial refund.  i hope i am not chasing my original bitcoin forever while watching others participate in the economy

I guess that makes 2 of us. I have a very early order #, and a later one. Decided to keep both.
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July 15, 2013, 07:45:24 PM
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I guess that makes 2 of us. I have a very early order #, and a later one. Decided to keep both.

We are 3 now. Have also early order number.
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July 15, 2013, 07:48:06 PM
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i am one of the first orders.  still nothing. i will keep you posted, unless no one cares i am the only one who did not refund :/ it is feeling that way

and yes, i would have loved a partial refund.  i hope i am not chasing my original bitcoin forever while watching others participate in the economy

Whats ur order number ?

46XX i think and a middle order too
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July 15, 2013, 07:49:28 PM
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I guess that makes 2 of us. I have a very early order #, and a later one. Decided to keep both.

We are 3 now. Have also early order number.

everyone who does not cancel will be an early order number i suppose, lol

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July 15, 2013, 07:50:06 PM
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46XX i think and a middle order too

Mine is 45xx.
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July 15, 2013, 07:51:10 PM
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46XX i think and a middle order too

Mine is 45xx.

Ditto, and very low xx at that. Silence so far.
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July 15, 2013, 09:34:26 PM
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i'm a #45xx too, still waiting.
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July 15, 2013, 09:42:59 PM
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I'll be #4 then, early order 66xx.

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