[ANN][ZEN] Horizen: Unbounded By Design

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[etoque]

Zen is the next big thing,no doubt

Fully retard bull on zen till it reach maturity and beyond for me

[SubZer0]

Happy to be here as a new investor and miner.
Don't know a lot about this nodes but i will do some readings.

But i saw there are people that will have like 100 nodes just for them self.
I doubt it will stay profitable for a long time if it keeps going like that.

If that won't happen i will look into a node for my self, there is still so much growth! 

[Temporel]

Happy to be here as a new investor and miner.
Don't know a lot about this nodes but i will do some readings.

But i saw there are people that will have like 100 nodes just for them self.
I doubt it will stay profitable for a long time if it keeps going like that.

If that won't happen i will look into a node for my self, there is still so much growth! 

its already not profitable , the devs fcked the nodes big time.

[dimifi]

Happy to be here as a new investor and miner.
Don't know a lot about this nodes but i will do some readings.

But i saw there are people that will have like 100 nodes just for them self.
I doubt it will stay profitable for a long time if it keeps going like that.

If that won't happen i will look into a node for my self, there is still so much growth! 

its already not profitable , the devs fcked the nodes big time.

Jup one of my regrets was falling for this

[falsealarm_bf1]

Happy to be here as a new investor and miner.
Don't know a lot about this nodes but i will do some readings.

But i saw there are people that will have like 100 nodes just for them self.
I doubt it will stay profitable for a long time if it keeps going like that.

If that won't happen i will look into a node for my self, there is still so much growth! 

its already not profitable , the devs fcked the nodes big time.

What the hell are you talking about?

[puwaha]

ZenCash is now listet on Evercoin.com awesome.

https://twitter.com/zencashofficial/status/939484813412716544

Well, this is an old news, and this tweet is more like reminder where you can trade Zen.

What about us old folks (or young) who don't use social media, and prefer old school methods like forums... like Bitcointalk?

[falsealarm_bf1]

ZenCash is now listet on Evercoin.com awesome.

https://twitter.com/zencashofficial/status/939484813412716544

Well, this is an old news, and this tweet is more like reminder where you can trade Zen.

What about us old folks (or young) who don't use social media, and prefer old school methods like forums... like Bitcointalk?

Agreed. Why is some the significant news left off of this thread?

[MedaR]

ZenCash is now listet on Evercoin.com awesome.

https://twitter.com/zencashofficial/status/939484813412716544

Well, this is an old news, and this tweet is more like reminder where you can trade Zen.

What about us old folks (or young) who don't use social media, and prefer old school methods like forums... like Bitcointalk?

You can now buy and sell ZenCash on Evercoin, a Silicon Valley based instant-access cryptocurrency exchange. No account required, sleek design, and really cool team that shares our vision for privacy.

https://evercoin.com/zencash

Really cool a complete anonymous way to buy ZenCash

Follow this thread and you will get latest informations about project.

[MedaR]

Agreed. Why is some the significant news left off of this thread?

All relevant and official news are posted here including media mentioning and public appearances - chronologically. Twitter and other medias sometimes using "old news" as reminders where you can trade Zen in this case..

[Delphinus]

So what's the issue here?

Nodes are to cheap, therefore the rewards are very low? People always want cheap nodes so they can host one and than realize it's not profitable if everyone does it...
If it's not profitable, people will stop running nodes and it will become profitable again for the others.

It's just basic supply and demand that will balance out eventually.

[MedaR]

Will cryptocurrency be the new normal?

Bitcoin isn’t the only virtual currency on the block anymore. Newer players like ether and litecoin are arriving all the time. We ask how soon they will become the new normal—and whether there are opportunities for community banks to cash in.

“Smaller banks could leapfrog and get ahead by starting to help their customers to have access to this market.”
—Rob Viglione, ZenCash

http://independentbanker.org/2017/12/will-cryptocurrency-be-the-new-normal/

[z0n0]

Damn, I overslept nodes situation.

Why are some of you guys saing secure nodes f***ed ZEN price?

BTW - how are we standing with nodes on Windows?

[examplens]

Where can we find statistics about securenode? About ROI, staking etc.. How much ZEN is locked on securenode?

Here is calculator -> https://zen.lebre.net/ 

Statistics and number how many node are online curently->
https://securenodes.eu.zensystem.io/

It's a little confused calculator. I am not sure what is my answer for "Number of secure Nodes". Is it how much i have s.nodes or how much Zen have in total.
"3.5% for Secure Nodes 7560" is it means that there we have already 7560 nodes?

[MedaR]

It's a little confused calculator. I am not sure what is my answer for "Number of secure Nodes". Is it how much i have s.nodes or how much Zen have in total.
"3.5% for Secure Nodes 7560" is it means that there we have already 7560 nodes?

No, there are around 2400 nodes currently ->
https://securenodes.eu.zensystem.io/

216000 Zen are prodused trough POW and 3.5% of every block is reserved for Secure Nodes or 7560 Zen monthly for this purpose. This amount is divided among active nodes.

[BossBee]

How can a node not be profitable? You're not purchasing highly depreciating machinery to run it or using mass amounts of electricity.   

[btcdamnit]

How much Zen Should I hold to start a secure node and is there any simple tutorial?

I was wondering that how much return would it ultimately provide?
Is investing in secure node is a good idea?

[MedaR]

How much Zen Should I hold to start a secure node and is there any simple tutorial?

I was wondering that how much return would it ultimately provide?
Is investing in secure node is a good idea?

ZenCash Secure Nodes Create a Distributed and Reliable CryptoCurrency System
https://blog.zensystem.io/secure-nodes-why-are-they-important/

Here is calculator -> https://zen.lebre.net/ 
Statistics and number of nodes online curently->
https://securenodes.eu.zensystem.io/

All informations about how to setup node->

https://blockoperations.com/how-to-build-and-operate-a-zencash-secure-node/
https://blockoperations.com/build-zencash-secure-node-part-1-prepare-vps/
https://blockoperations.com/build-zencash-secure-node-part-2-build-zen-node/
https://blockoperations.com/build-zencash-secure-node-part-2-5-test-tls-secnodetracker/

Please join discord  https://discordapp.com/invite/CEbKY9w  channel #securenodes there you will find help, and tecnical support.

[MedaR]

I was wondering that how much return would it ultimately provide?
Is investing in secure node is a good idea?

This is filled with current informations but number of nodes will increase, and price can change hopefully will increase.

[BossBee]

Then you have to factor in the inflation from newly minted coins + appreciation to coin value from adoption rate, investments, uses, and new nodes.