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February 10, 2018, 04:26:58 PM
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the devs run at lest 3000 nodes and many of us have more than 30 nodes. So its a lot less than 6925 nodes.

Great project but the sn part is a disaster for people who run them. Lots of time to managed them for almost no rewards. Epic fail IMO.
This simple is not true, every system in the start has some downsides, in case of ZenCash we had to review manually every node payment, to be sure. Now this process of payments is almost weekly as promised.  There are Team - people on discord who helping others with problematic Nodes, and server problems.

"Epic fail" is reserved for something that doesn't work, nodes are alive and well, at this momet there are 6900+ Nodes.

Yes small obstacle is the complexity of creating of Secure Node (For those who are not so familiar with Linux), we will work on this to simplify this process, or at least to provide better support.

Not to mention that we've already paid out something like 10,000 ZEN = ~$400,000 to sec node operators in 6 weeks...wouldn't call that an "epic fail" by any means. If it were, we wouldn't have ~7,000 sec nodes operating today. And no, we don't run any nodes as an organization. Everyone on the team is free to run their own nodes, and many of us do, but nowhere close to 3,000 of them.



oh and yes, 3000, probably even more, so you devs must be happy to get more than half of this, well done ! Decentralization power !  Cheesy
I'm not sure what are you trying to do here, where did you got this silly information? You probably didn't understand Rob. When he told "we paid" he means from 3.5% allocated funds for Secure Node payments.  We as team believe in what we are doing here so it is normal to have some of those nodes,  right?  

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February 10, 2018, 05:04:47 PM
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The epic failure is the devs running way too many nodes , the challenges system and the silly rewards for all the trouble/time/cost node admins have.

Community or not, the whole PoW and nodes systems are based on rewards and when there is no money for the miners or the node owners, the coin fail. The sad part in this system is when devs are running so many nodes that they dont have to care for other investors, thats something they cant do with mining, thank god for Zencash.
We are still under Beta testings , and tweekings on system are taking place, what is wrong with this? Maybe you expected much more from this (Dash Scenario?), but it is still earlly, and we are early adopters, and we should be patiante.
Popularity of this concept is evident, number of nodes is real and increasing.  

How there is no money for miners? Price is still good, suffered BTC fall but whole Crypto market had problems.

Running a Node is still profitable->



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February 10, 2018, 10:17:49 PM
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the devs run at lest 3000 nodes and many of us have more than 30 nodes. So its a lot less than 6925 nodes.

Great project but the sn part is a disaster for people who run them. Lots of time to managed them for almost no rewards. Epic fail IMO.
This simple is not true, every system in the start has some downsides, in case of ZenCash we had to review manually every node payment, to be sure. Now this process of payments is almost weekly as promised.  There are Team - people on discord who helping others with problematic Nodes, and server problems.

"Epic fail" is reserved for something that doesn't work, nodes are alive and well, at this momet there are 6900+ Nodes.

Yes small obstacle is the complexity of creating of Secure Node (For those who are not so familiar with Linux), we will work on this to simplify this process, or at least to provide better support.

Not to mention that we've already paid out something like 10,000 ZEN = ~$400,000 to sec node operators in 6 weeks...wouldn't call that an "epic fail" by any means. If it were, we wouldn't have ~7,000 sec nodes operating today. And no, we don't run any nodes as an organization. Everyone on the team is free to run their own nodes, and many of us do, but nowhere close to 3,000 of them.



oh and yes, 3000, probably even more, so you devs must be happy to get more than half of this, well done ! Decentralization power !  Cheesy
I'm not sure what are you trying to do here, where did you got this silly information? You probably didn't understand Rob. When he told "we paid" he means from 3.5% allocated funds for Secure Node payments.  We as team believe in what we are doing here so it is normal to have some of those nodes,  right?  

Don't waste your time with this kid... Always the same irrational & non constructive post here.
ALL the ZENcash team are doing an amazing job and i'm proud & impressed to put my grain of sand by nodes and mining from day 1.
Keep up !
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February 11, 2018, 11:47:56 AM
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the devs run at lest 3000 nodes and many of us have more than 30 nodes. So its a lot less than 6925 nodes.

Great project but the sn part is a disaster for people who run them. Lots of time to managed them for almost no rewards. Epic fail IMO.
This simple is not true, every system in the start has some downsides, in case of ZenCash we had to review manually every node payment, to be sure. Now this process of payments is almost weekly as promised.  There are Team - people on discord who helping others with problematic Nodes, and server problems.

"Epic fail" is reserved for something that doesn't work, nodes are alive and well, at this momet there are 6900+ Nodes.

Yes small obstacle is the complexity of creating of Secure Node (For those who are not so familiar with Linux), we will work on this to simplify this process, or at least to provide better support.

Not to mention that we've already paid out something like 10,000 ZEN = ~$400,000 to sec node operators in 6 weeks...wouldn't call that an "epic fail" by any means. If it were, we wouldn't have ~7,000 sec nodes operating today. And no, we don't run any nodes as an organization. Everyone on the team is free to run their own nodes, and many of us do, but nowhere close to 3,000 of them.



oh and yes, 3000, probably even more, so you devs must be happy to get more than half of this, well done ! Decentralization power !  Cheesy
I'm not sure what are you trying to do here, where did you got this silly information? You probably didn't understand Rob. When he told "we paid" he means from 3.5% allocated funds for Secure Node payments.  We as team believe in what we are doing here so it is normal to have some of those nodes,  right?  

Don't waste your time with this kid... Always the same irrational & non constructive post here.
ALL the ZENcash team are doing an amazing job and i'm proud & impressed to put my grain of sand by nodes and mining from day 1.
Keep up !

Seriously! Not sure where to even start with this nonsense. Just didn't want others to be confused so i figured i'd chime in before, but best to ignore the trolls after clarifying the mistakes once. Thanks for the support!
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February 11, 2018, 01:04:57 PM
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Since it does not have pre-miner, a doubt has arisen, how does the development team keep this project? Are there partners who are invested in zencash?
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Summarized well! Good layout, it is clear and concise.
Is a future partnership with this e shop possible ? I would like I could so much use the ZEN as method of payment;)
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Since it does not have pre-miner, a doubt has arisen, how does the development team keep this project? Are there partners who are invested in zencash?
ZenCash is a minable cryptocurrency or a POW (Proof of Work) cryptocurrency.  Division of each PoW block:  3.5% Secure Nodes reward , 8.5% Team's treasury, 88% miners reward. Those funds 8.5% going to treasury, and they are used for further development, marketing and PR. We are listed on Coinpayments and there is whole list of merchant that can use Zen in their business.

Whoever possess ZenCash is our investor.

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ZenCash Team will gladly speaks with YouTubers who can do good review about our technology, Secure Nodes, community..Those with more experince can even get interview with Rober Viglione. All interested members should contact me, or Rosario aka zench1ck.

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February 11, 2018, 11:54:41 PM
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Summarized well! Good layout, it is clear and concise.
Is a future partnership with this e shop possible ? I would like I could so much use the ZEN as method of payment;)
Keep up !

That would be cool, we'll see...
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Spread your hashrate guys, join our zen pool --> https://zen.nibirupool.com
Reliable server, well-known z-nomp mining engine with pplnt payment system (the best one!), anonymous, stable and fast.
With support in discord and telegram.

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Spread your hashrate guys, join our zen pool --> https://zen.nibirupool.com
Reliable server, well-known z-nomp mining engine with pplnt payment system (the best one!), anonymous, stable and fast.
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Cool I'll check it out. Do you guys have any switchover incentives? Obviously not critical but some pools I've swapped mining to will do something like provide an extra x coin for the first week if you mine almost continously for a couple days, that kind of thing. Can help get the ball rolling if hashrates are on the low side.
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Checkout our newest blog:

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Aligned with ZenCash’s grassroots origins, we love to bring people into our team that are passionate about Zen, privacy, freedom, and technology. We love seeing our community members contribute and improving ZenCash by actively participating in our different channels, social media, helping at a problem at hand, testing a new feature, and providing assistance to our newbie Zenners.

 https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-when-moon-when-lambo/

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February 12, 2018, 01:29:25 PM
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The Crypto Investor Show in London, UK (March 10)
https://coindar.org/en/event/zencash-zen-the-crypto-investor-show-in-london-uk-3436
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February 12, 2018, 01:35:24 PM
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Is the token a utility token (usage token or work token) a security token, or a combination?
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February 12, 2018, 01:37:20 PM
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nodes coming to 7k.
what a powerful and strong network is

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February 12, 2018, 02:09:07 PM
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Since it does not have pre-miner, a doubt has arisen, how does the development team keep this project? Are there partners who are invested in zencash?
ZenCash is a minable cryptocurrency or a POW (Proof of Work) cryptocurrency.  Division of each PoW block:  3.5% Secure Nodes reward , 8.5% Team's treasury, 88% miners reward. Those funds 8.5% going to treasury, and they are used for further development, marketing and PR. We are listed on Coinpayments and there is whole list of merchant that can use Zen in their business.

Whoever possess ZenCash is our investor.

And that is a very good way to do it instead of massive pre mine! Smiley
Now there is no need to fear a dump, but a sell of coins from treasury when needed for payments they have to do to make Zencash better for the investors.
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Is the token a utility token (usage token or work token) a security token, or a combination?
Tokens are a reperesenation of particular eset or utility, that usully rides on the top pf another blockchain. In most cases tokens are created and distributed trought ICO or IPO. Altcoins are separate currencies with their own blockchain. Zen is not premine nor ICo IPO. ZenCash is a platform designed for private communications and private economic activity. Zen started its life chainspliting from ZCL.  ZCL is forked from ZCash and ZCash is direct fork from Bitcoin. Zen is improved Bitcoin.

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February 12, 2018, 07:43:16 PM
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Are you freakin kidding me? Alzashop made an article about ZEN?! Wow, fucking amazing!
I used alzashop so many times for my hardware.
Great stuff!
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i hope i would be able to put up my masternode...eventually... i hate the fuckers who play with the difficulty of the network.. devs... put the diff to adjust on a average of 100 or 500 blocks because those fucks only come to take a lot of blocks with a shitload of hashpower and disappear hashing again their desired coin, leaving us to mine at insane difficulties.
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