[ANN][ZEN] Horizen: Unbounded By Design

[Aleksiusha]

unfriendly secure nodes technology holds price

[kingmoneymastery]

Hi, may I ask what is the easiest way to host a node on Windows 10? Or is there a node hosting service I can use? Where can I find a link for the stats of secured nodes? I am not skilled with the coding stuff. Thank you.

To help others out, here is a calculator for ZEN secure nodes ROI http://zen.lebre.net/

[dex1]

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Where can I find a link for the stats of secured nodes?
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https://securenodes.na.zensystem.io/

[Dark Oopa]

hi, is the start of the payment of secure nodes still planned for today?

I can't find the information on your tweeter nor blog

thx

[Ravni Kriptograf]

hi, is the start of the payment of secure nodes still planned for today?

I can't find the information on your tweeter nor blog

thx

Should be up already, but i dont see any payments yet.

[Verigus]

Every time the price is trying to move up someone dumps it down again. Is there someone trying to keep zen down maybe?

I think it is not someone, but some "bot" 

[Temporel]

hi, is the start of the payment of secure nodes still planned for today?

I can't find the information on your tweeter nor blog

thx

Should be up already, but i dont see any payments yet.

why would you see a payments ? Nothing in your wallet for the next 3-4 days then it will be once a week I think.

[Temporel]

hi, is the start of the payment of secure nodes still planned for today?

I can't find the information on your tweeter nor blog

thx

Should be up already, but i dont see any payments yet.

why would you see a payments ? Nothing in our wallets for the next 3-4 days (for the first payments) then it will be once a week I think.

[Ravni Kriptograf]

hi, is the start of the payment of secure nodes still planned for today?

I can't find the information on your tweeter nor blog

thx

Should be up already, but i dont see any payments yet.

why would you see a payments ? Nothing in our wallets for the next 3-4 days (for the first payments) then it will be once a week I think.

Well on testnet payments were coming every 6 houers.

[bel123]

Every time the price is trying to move up someone dumps it down again. Is there someone trying to keep zen down maybe?

Yes this somebody has a name "no marketing" and not smart % for secure nodes... too many % for miners (88%), too small for secure nodes (3,5%).
Dash is sucessfll and have 45%/45% so zen also should change it - min 10% for secure nodes should be to be stable and profitable for longer time. Now probably is too many miners which dump coins fast after mining.

If i can suggest something to zencash. Change white paper asap.
- miners 70% (18% less then now)
- secure nodes  15% (11,5% more then now)
- marketing 6,5 (6,5% more then now because in white paper there is no such thing... and this is one of the most important thing here and now to make zencash more popular!)
PBC could change zencash price 300%-400%... and zencash team alone can't change price since very long time - even secure nodes (so one of the biggest news/change for each coin) are on mainnet... because there are no marketers/smart marketers in the team  That's why it is the most important to make % only for marketing. (in the future there should be also few % for bulding tools for secure nodes to go to mainstream with zencash)

It the end then zencash will be much more stable, safe and value will be much higher then now. Marketing gives value to the coin, then also it will be more profitable for miners and secure nodes... zencash will be more popular and budget for marketing will be also higher each month  (popularity, coin value, profit for miners, secure nodes will rise)

ps. i am miner and i have also coins prepaired for secure nodes

[Mefestofel_Mefis]

how many secure nodes do you guys expect in a few months? right now is about 2000. im thinking 5000-6000 in 6 months?

[MedaR]

Secure Nodes update:

 Beta with Payments! The servers have been updated and restarted. Some updates to minimize phantom downtimes were applied. Please monitor your nodes for any issues.

We are also now in the earning phase. There will be no payment records created until the end of the first 24 hour period.  The time is approximate since the earning period is based on blocks not clocks.  There will be a post just before the first period end, about 7 or 8am GMT on the 16th.   

[MedaR]

how many secure nodes do you guys expect in a few months? right now is about 2000. im thinking 5000-6000 in 6 months?

08 Dec 2017 we had 2000
11 Dec 2017 we had  2519
13 Dec 2017  we had  2881

You can check here: https://twitter.com/MedaTrader/status/940962163321171968

There are already 3500 Nodes
https://securenodes.eu.zensystem.io/


Notice how number increasing rapidly!

[MedaR]

what is this compared to zcash do you think?

With Secure Nodes (3500 Nodes already) and with future implementation of Decentralised Governance..Ask yourself why Zcash?

[jules.verne]

how many secure nodes do you guys expect in a few months? right now is about 2000. im thinking 5000-6000 in 6 months?

It got extremely fast to 3500 nodes, and it's just the first days, so I would say a double in 6 months if the node price is kept the same - now it's still very affordable.

[MedaR]

Every time the price is trying to move up someone dumps it down again. Is there someone trying to keep zen down maybe?

Yes this somebody has a name "no marketing" and not smart % for secure nodes... too many % for miners (88%), too small for secure nodes (3,5%).
Dash is sucessfll and have 45%/45% so zen also should change it - min 10% for secure nodes should be to be stable and profitable for longer time. Now probably is too many miners which dump coins fast after mining.

If i can suggest something to zencash. Change white paper asap.
- miners 70% (18% less then now)
- secure nodes  15% (11,5% more then now)
- marketing 6,5 (6,5% more then now because in white paper there is no such thing... and this is one of the most important thing here and now to make zencash more popular!)
PBC could change zencash price 300%-400%... and zencash team alone can't change price since very long time - even secure nodes (so one of the biggest news/change for each coin) are on mainnet... because there are no marketers/smart marketers in the team  That's why it is the most important to make % only for marketing. (in the future there should be also few % for bulding tools for secure nodes to go to mainstream with zencash)

It the end then zencash will be much more stable, safe and value will be much higher then now. Marketing gives value to the coin, then also it will be more profitable for miners and secure nodes... zencash will be more popular and budget for marketing will be also higher each month  (popularity, coin value, profit for miners, secure nodes will rise)

ps. i am miner and i have also coins prepaired for secure nodes

You can post your opinion here:
https://forum.zensystem.io/t/ideas-bucket/810

As i talked about this earlier this is inicional start and some things can and will be changed over time as response on feedbacks from system. All good ideas and feedbacks will be taken in consideration by the wider community.
Thanks for this post, we all want to improve this system, and we are giving our best to acomplish this, but it is too early for conclusions.

[MedaR]

ZenCash mentioned in article on Top 9 Privacy Coins:

https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/top-9-secure-anonymous-cryptocurrencies-you-should-know-about/

[Dark Oopa]

Every time the price is trying to move up someone dumps it down again. Is there someone trying to keep zen down maybe?

Yes this somebody has a name "no marketing" and not smart % for secure nodes... too many % for miners (88%), too small for secure nodes (3,5%).
Dash is sucessfll and have 45%/45% so zen also should change it - min 10% for secure nodes should be to be stable and profitable for longer time. Now probably is too many miners which dump coins fast after mining.

If i can suggest something to zencash. Change white paper asap.
- miners 70% (18% less then now)
- secure nodes  15% (11,5% more then now)
- marketing 6,5 (6,5% more then now because in white paper there is no such thing... and this is one of the most important thing here and now to make zencash more popular!)
PBC could change zencash price 300%-400%... and zencash team alone can't change price since very long time - even secure nodes (so one of the biggest news/change for each coin) are on mainnet... because there are no marketers/smart marketers in the team  That's why it is the most important to make % only for marketing. (in the future there should be also few % for bulding tools for secure nodes to go to mainstream with zencash)

It the end then zencash will be much more stable, safe and value will be much higher then now. Marketing gives value to the coin, then also it will be more profitable for miners and secure nodes... zencash will be more popular and budget for marketing will be also higher each month  (popularity, coin value, profit for miners, secure nodes will rise)

ps. i am miner and i have also coins prepaired for secure nodes

let me guess, you have nodes but you don't mine right?

[Temporel]

how many secure nodes do you guys expect in a few months? right now is about 2000. im thinking 5000-6000 in 6 months?

its actually 3529 right now.

[Temporel]

Every time the price is trying to move up someone dumps it down again. Is there someone trying to keep zen down maybe?

Yes this somebody has a name "no marketing" and not smart % for secure nodes... too many % for miners (88%), too small for secure nodes (3,5%).
Dash is sucessfll and have 45%/45% so zen also should change it - min 10% for secure nodes should be to be stable and profitable for longer time. Now probably is too many miners which dump coins fast after mining.

If i can suggest something to zencash. Change white paper asap.
- miners 70% (18% less then now)
- secure nodes  15% (11,5% more then now)
- marketing 6,5 (6,5% more then now because in white paper there is no such thing... and this is one of the most important thing here and now to make zencash more popular!)
PBC could change zencash price 300%-400%... and zencash team alone can't change price since very long time - even secure nodes (so one of the biggest news/change for each coin) are on mainnet... because there are no marketers/smart marketers in the team  That's why it is the most important to make % only for marketing. (in the future there should be also few % for bulding tools for secure nodes to go to mainstream with zencash)

It the end then zencash will be much more stable, safe and value will be much higher then now. Marketing gives value to the coin, then also it will be more profitable for miners and secure nodes... zencash will be more popular and budget for marketing will be also higher each month  (popularity, coin value, profit for miners, secure nodes will rise)

ps. i am miner and i have also coins prepaired for secure nodes

let me guess, you have nodes but you don't mine right?

I have a few secure nodes and I also mine but I have to agree with him, secure node's rewards are insanly low considering the trouble and fees involved.