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August 05, 2017, 08:37:29 AM
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What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

Bitcoin is the first coin in the market so we considered all the cryptocurrencies that made is also called as altcoins. I think bitcoin cash has a potential to be a good promising cryptocurrency because it is on the top 3 in market cap. It was shocking but I think it can overtake ethereum market cap and price in a couple of weeks.

With in a first day or second, it is not possible for us to judge, right now there are many speculations circulating because many people are thinking that soon the price of BCH will dump in the market like Zcash. In the beginning, Zcash creates a lot of hype in the market and afterward, it settles at some point.

Good comparison. I thought of Zcash too in that regard. Maybe Bitcoin Cash will not drop to zero, but it can decrease 50 times from its initial price just like it happened with Zcash.

As of now you have to pay just 120 satoshis/byte for a fast Bitcoin transaction, and this is a good sign compared to up to 360 satoshis/byte lately.

I do not agree that Bitcoin cash will be like Zcash. Zcash has made a superhype but it will not happen to bitcoincash. The price of bitcoincash is just right since it is a clone of bitcoin. I believe that if its price will go down if will stick to 0.1 btc and it will not go down anymore and it will continue to increase in value since it will be bitcoins new rival. Though there are many rumors and predictions that it will lose its value once all 21 coins will be distributed but I disagree with that. Just like bitcoin the public has a huge expectation on bitcoincash and they will treat it as the brother of bitcoin. I also believe that bitcoincash will replace ethereum on its 2nd ranking in the coinmarketcap. Just like bitcoin there are also huge companies who lined up that will support bitcoincash.

Well, it is 0.07688820 BTC already and no sign of increasing in value. On the contrary we can see 35% fall compared to BTC and the tendency continues. I think it's more like 0.02 BTC is what we can expect for Bitcoin Cash price in the future.

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August 05, 2017, 09:05:52 AM
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It seems Bitcoin cash if for me personally think it's a split from bitcoin or part of bitcoin like altcoin that already exists. Bitcoin cash looks like the development of bitcoin after the fork happened of the past days. Of course it's still definitely better bitcoin than bitcoin cash for me who just popped in these moments.
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August 05, 2017, 09:12:18 AM
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The price of bitcoin just surged past $3000 a few days after the split. Goes to show how strong the support for bitcoin is and I am almost sure that it is just going to get stronger. I don't have anything against bitcoin cash because it too has its own supporters, albeit not as many as bitcoin, but we will see how long they can continue to support it at the expense of lesser mining fees.

I'm more interested to see what kind of "split" might develop after the November hard fork. The Segwit2x camp is supported by big money: companies, miners, exchanges. But I also think that there is a significant contingent within the Bitcoin community that will oppose such a hard fork (and might oppose any hard fork, not matter what).

It's true that it seems silly to try to hard fork so soon after implementing Segwit. Why not give it some time to see how it alleviates network congestion? Why not see how the Lightning Network develops first?

LN may have quite a few hurdles ahead

Because that would kill Bitcoin mining as we know it today. SegWit itself is only a crutch and even it had caused massive fighting and clashes inside the Bitcoin community, so LN seems to be in a far too distant future (read not in this life). If Bitcoin Cash fails (which seems to be the case), the Big Blocks activation (set to occur in the coming November) may not make a lot of sense since the failure of Bitcoin Cash would prove there is no real requirement for this update. In other words, the fate of the November hard fork is essentially decided today

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August 05, 2017, 09:16:17 AM
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I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
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August 05, 2017, 10:14:56 PM
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I think Bitcoin cash has potential but I'd don't think it has a lot of support. It is not as popular as Bitcoin so i think investment in Bitcoin is better. Bitcoin has the largest market capital and it is the most popular crypto.
The bitcoin cash doesn't have enough miners to support the network. I sent my bitcoin cash amount from hitbtc to the bittrex but this time already over 10 hours. And i will be expecting my transaction gets deliver tomorrow.
They are having miner and bitcoin miners are supporting them how can you say that they are not having miner as you working there you are talking like that so i would like to tell you that don't talk like that because they have miners that's why they have lunched and it is lunched by bitcoin so keep watch it will break the records as well.
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August 06, 2017, 01:17:45 AM
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I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
Much better because I've heard that some of the exchange like livecoins supports bitcoin cash ,but i don't even believe and will not convince me to buy that because i don't even have any knowledge on it and on my own knowledge in trading its kinda produced by a Hypers because of the Segwit.
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August 06, 2017, 07:59:08 AM
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I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
Much better because I've heard that some of the exchange like livecoins supports bitcoin cash ,but i don't even believe and will not convince me to buy that because i don't even have any knowledge on it and on my own knowledge in trading its kinda produced by a Hypers because of the Segwit.

That's how Bitcoin Cash looks to me, another hyped altcoin, we've seen many of them already, and always the same story: high price at very beginning, then maybe even higher price a bit later, and then starts the inevitable decline. Some where saying in this thread that 0.1 BTC is the bottom for BCH and now we at 0.068.

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August 06, 2017, 08:37:19 AM
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I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
Much better because I've heard that some of the exchange like livecoins supports bitcoin cash ,but i don't even believe and will not convince me to buy that because i don't even have any knowledge on it and on my own knowledge in trading its kinda produced by a Hypers because of the Segwit.

That's how Bitcoin Cash looks to me, another hyped altcoin, we've seen many of them already, and always the same story: high price at very beginning, then maybe even higher price a bit later, and then starts the inevitable decline. Some where saying in this thread that 0.1 BTC is the bottom for BCH and now we at 0.068.

I bet we will see much, much lower. Some altcoins simply drop for many months before the tide starts to turn and selling dries up. Supply for BCH is potentially huge on the exchanges given the size of the airdrop, too.
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August 06, 2017, 09:52:36 AM
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What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


I think Bitcoin cash has the same value as Bitcoin. However, its value is still much smaller than Bitcoin's because it's new and it's like a Bitcoin special.

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August 06, 2017, 10:02:21 AM
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What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?



The value of Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash is different when they are always at a certain distance. However, it can be said BCC is a new step for Bitcoin, it is full of Bitcoin and new innovations in trading.
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August 06, 2017, 10:49:17 AM
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What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?



The value of Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash is different when they are always at a certain distance. However, it can be said BCC is a new step for Bitcoin, it is full of Bitcoin and new innovations in trading.
Bcc needs time to prove that it can be btc, for me it is an alt but we will know as time passed by if it can do what btc have done years ago.btc have prove its self even crash happens that it can still increase in value.
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August 07, 2017, 08:50:45 AM
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I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
Much better because I've heard that some of the exchange like livecoins supports bitcoin cash ,but i don't even believe and will not convince me to buy that because i don't even have any knowledge on it and on my own knowledge in trading its kinda produced by a Hypers because of the Segwit.

That's how Bitcoin Cash looks to me, another hyped altcoin, we've seen many of them already, and always the same story: high price at very beginning, then maybe even higher price a bit later, and then starts the inevitable decline. Some where saying in this thread that 0.1 BTC is the bottom for BCH and now we at 0.068.

I bet we will see much, much lower. Some altcoins simply drop for many months before the tide starts to turn and selling dries up. Supply for BCH is potentially huge on the exchanges given the size of the airdrop, too.

I was thinking so too, but what is this happening? Why 0.08238500 BTC? Who's buying the coin, this Bitcoin Cash, which I thought will be only falling in the nearest future? I'm a bit confused now, to tell the truth.

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August 07, 2017, 09:21:40 AM
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I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
Much better because I've heard that some of the exchange like livecoins supports bitcoin cash ,but i don't even believe and will not convince me to buy that because i don't even have any knowledge on it and on my own knowledge in trading its kinda produced by a Hypers because of the Segwit.

That's how Bitcoin Cash looks to me, another hyped altcoin, we've seen many of them already, and always the same story: high price at very beginning, then maybe even higher price a bit later, and then starts the inevitable decline. Some where saying in this thread that 0.1 BTC is the bottom for BCH and now we at 0.068.

I bet we will see much, much lower. Some altcoins simply drop for many months before the tide starts to turn and selling dries up. Supply for BCH is potentially huge on the exchanges given the size of the airdrop, too.

I was thinking so too, but what is this happening? Why 0.08238500 BTC? Who's buying the coin, this Bitcoin Cash, which I thought will be only falling in the nearest future? I'm a bit confused now, to tell the truth.

There is nothing to be confused about

If you keep in mind that Bitcoin Cash has been cloned down or up to a single satoshi on the blockchain, you will easily understand that while there are quite a few regular Bitcoin holders who are dumping their BCC tokens, there are also BCC holders who are dumping regular bitcoins (the mining cartel can be doing exactly that). And while the former pour the cash thus earned into regular Bitcoin, it works in the opposite way as well. That is, Bitcoin Cash supporters might be selling good old bitcoins and buying Bitcoin Cash instead thereby supporting its price

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August 07, 2017, 09:24:48 AM
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Possibly any cryptocurrency can get that mark of 3000$ per coin, but it's always depending on other currencies market value. In Bitcoin cash situation we can expect that the price can reach that mark because it started from 600$ per 1 coin. People are making interest to each cryptocoin by trading it if Bitcoin cash shows that it can be the same as bitcoin we can see that price of 3000$ per 1 crypto coin   
People used to have interest in free bch and mining opportunities perhaps. Then the price went so much down that now it is hardly imaginable that bitcoin cash may actually be compared with bitcoin and may win over it one day. It is up 28% and but still it is just $270. Obsession with this coin is over, so I guess it is now just another alt we are having. Moreover, as some alts are actually trying to differ somehow from btc, offer something new and innovative, this alt doesn't. I think it will continue to go down in price.

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August 07, 2017, 09:28:48 AM
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On Bitcoin Cash having the same value with Bitcoin, I don't think this is a plausible scenario. With Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin having the same value it means that the crypto market is split on whether to hold both BCC or BTC. If this would have ever happened the next possible to happen is either one will be let go of the majority of the holders, and I think that one will be BCC. Maybe if they make a huge price action for BCC it is because they want to profit from the trend it is making if the forcibly buy up the price of Bitcoin Cash. 
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What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?


Just another alt coin and people, traders especially the whales got their profit already and that's enough to get out now. Bitcoin will be the best crypto currency and bitcoin cash will also die very soon just like what happened to Bitcoin Unlimited of Roger Ver. All of those coins that copied bitcoin's name will just be an option for trading.
We have to remain investing on bitcoin because it has already proven that it is profitable, starting for a small amount less than 1 dollar but now the price is already $3,000. Although the price is still good now but it is declining everyday until it will be back on where it started, it's still belong to top 10 and pretty well some people are still holding this coin but I am not and never earn from this during the hard fork when some exchanges give free BCC.

Bitcoin will always be the main crypto currency and there's a lot of so called bitcoin carbon copy. But what happened to those? They never get the resistance to become popular and have a better value from the original bitcoin.Let's just thank to bitcoin cash as every trader get profit from it and they invested it in order to buy bitcoin.

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August 07, 2017, 11:06:36 PM
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Bitcoin will always be the main crypto currency and there's a lot of so called bitcoin carbon copy. But what happened to those? They never get the resistance to become popular and have a better value from the original bitcoin.Let's just thank to bitcoin cash as every trader get profit from it and they invested it in order to buy bitcoin.

What if Segwit2x happens in November? Besides the technical parameters, there is no real difference between the two hard forks. Most people viewed Bitcoin Cash as an altcoin. Will they view the Segwit2x chain as an altcoin, too? Or will most of the network follow the hard fork?
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Bitcoin will always be the main crypto currency and there's a lot of so called bitcoin carbon copy. But what happened to those? They never get the resistance to become popular and have a better value from the original bitcoin.Let's just thank to bitcoin cash as every trader get profit from it and they invested it in order to buy bitcoin.

What if Segwit2x happens in November? Besides the technical parameters, there is no real difference between the two hard forks. Most people viewed Bitcoin Cash as an altcoin. Will they view the Segwit2x chain as an altcoin, too? Or will most of the network follow the hard fork?

It depends on what will get the most support from the exchanges and mining pools. We are just depending on what's the majority vote and we can't do something about this but to let them handle what will be the best for the network. Bitcoin cash from the beginning even before the fork was already declared as an alt coin.

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August 08, 2017, 08:27:30 AM
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I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
Much better because I've heard that some of the exchange like livecoins supports bitcoin cash ,but i don't even believe and will not convince me to buy that because i don't even have any knowledge on it and on my own knowledge in trading its kinda produced by a Hypers because of the Segwit.

That's how Bitcoin Cash looks to me, another hyped altcoin, we've seen many of them already, and always the same story: high price at very beginning, then maybe even higher price a bit later, and then starts the inevitable decline. Some where saying in this thread that 0.1 BTC is the bottom for BCH and now we at 0.068.

I bet we will see much, much lower. Some altcoins simply drop for many months before the tide starts to turn and selling dries up. Supply for BCH is potentially huge on the exchanges given the size of the airdrop, too.

I was thinking so too, but what is this happening? Why 0.08238500 BTC? Who's buying the coin, this Bitcoin Cash, which I thought will be only falling in the nearest future? I'm a bit confused now, to tell the truth.

There is nothing to be confused about

If you keep in mind that Bitcoin Cash has been cloned down or up to a single satoshi on the blockchain, you will easily understand that while there are quite a few regular Bitcoin holders who are dumping their BCC tokens, there are also BCC holders who are dumping regular bitcoins (the mining cartel can be doing exactly that). And while the former pour the cash thus earned into regular Bitcoin, it works in the opposite way as well. That is, Bitcoin Cash supporters might be selling good old bitcoins and buying Bitcoin Cash instead thereby supporting its price

Thank you for taking time to explain. So, there are more of them, Bitcoin Cash supporters, than I thought. I thought that less than 10% of bitcoiners support Bitcoin Cash, but now, looking at the trade volumes it looks like there are maybe 20% of them.

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August 08, 2017, 09:37:34 AM
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I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
Much better because I've heard that some of the exchange like livecoins supports bitcoin cash ,but i don't even believe and will not convince me to buy that because i don't even have any knowledge on it and on my own knowledge in trading its kinda produced by a Hypers because of the Segwit.

That's how Bitcoin Cash looks to me, another hyped altcoin, we've seen many of them already, and always the same story: high price at very beginning, then maybe even higher price a bit later, and then starts the inevitable decline. Some where saying in this thread that 0.1 BTC is the bottom for BCH and now we at 0.068.

I bet we will see much, much lower. Some altcoins simply drop for many months before the tide starts to turn and selling dries up. Supply for BCH is potentially huge on the exchanges given the size of the airdrop, too.

I was thinking so too, but what is this happening? Why 0.08238500 BTC? Who's buying the coin, this Bitcoin Cash, which I thought will be only falling in the nearest future? I'm a bit confused now, to tell the truth.

There is nothing to be confused about

If you keep in mind that Bitcoin Cash has been cloned down or up to a single satoshi on the blockchain, you will easily understand that while there are quite a few regular Bitcoin holders who are dumping their BCC tokens, there are also BCC holders who are dumping regular bitcoins (the mining cartel can be doing exactly that). And while the former pour the cash thus earned into regular Bitcoin, it works in the opposite way as well. That is, Bitcoin Cash supporters might be selling good old bitcoins and buying Bitcoin Cash instead thereby supporting its price

Thank you for taking time to explain. So, there are more of them, Bitcoin Cash supporters, than I thought. I thought that less than 10% of bitcoiners support Bitcoin Cash, but now, looking at the trade volumes it looks like there are maybe 20% of them.

Feel free to ask if you have questions

Though I don't think we can reliably tell how many Bitcoin Cash supporters are actually there. It can be just a bot programmed by the cartel to keep the prices in a certain range, so no human may in fact be involved in this process at all. If the price goes up, it makes less trades, when the price goes down it may kick in starting to massively buy up the BCC tokens. It can also be a loosely knit group of big whales trading at major exchanges who have a mighty stash of regular bitcoins selling them for these tokens and thus propping up their price

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