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August 05, 2017, 04:00:59 PM
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Any special speculation threads for BCH please? I think I can't discuss them here.
Still if somebody could help, just tell me when the hell will this BullshitCash ever get pumped back? Now I am in a totally "fucked up" condition due to its price going 1/4th the price where I bought. Is it ever going to make that high or even my buy price (BTC0.21) back or is it a dream anyways?

If you bought BCC then I fear you will have to put the trade down as lost or at best wait a very very long time to recoup the losses.

Long time but till when? Can anyone speculate about that too?
I am scared myself why the hell did I even believe in this crap coin! I believe I did it just because it emerged from Bitcoin itself and is going to run with it hand in hand and seeing support of some big companies made me think that this will be something for at least a few days but it proved a nightmare for me.

If it were me I'd dump and move on but I have no patience and the sight of it going down lower each day would just make things worse.
Typically the moves I make are the wrong ones, so do the oppositte of what i would do would probably be your best choice.

That's what I would do too. Cut the losses and pump whatever cash you have left from the sell back into something more profitable - BTC, ETH, STRATIS, SC, or MAID.

I hate buying something that has gone up a lot recently, so I would probably hold it in fiat waiting for something to dip hard. Again, use what I would do as a gauge of what not to do is probably your best option, I suck at this.
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August 05, 2017, 04:20:55 PM
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I do not understand someone can claim BCH from its BTC without losing the amount of bitcoin equal to its price?
Is this the free money created during the split of all investors' brains?
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August 05, 2017, 04:35:21 PM
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I do not understand someone can claim BCH from its BTC without losing the amount of bitcoin equal to its price?
Is this the free money created during the split of all investors' brains?

In a nutshell, yes.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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August 05, 2017, 04:36:51 PM
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when can we expect bch network to start moving smootly?

If blocks don't start to be regular this network have no future....
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August 05, 2017, 04:39:08 PM
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when can we expect bch network to start moving smootly?

If blocks don't start to be regular this network have no future....

watch and learn

the real drama hasn't even started yet, its all part of the evil bigblocker plan

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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August 05, 2017, 04:42:50 PM
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when can we expect bch network to start moving smootly?

If blocks don't start to be regular this network have no future....

watch and learn

the real drama hasn't even started yet, its all part of the evil bigblocker plan

Could you please explain better? What is the evil bigblocker plan?

I'm trying to understand what's going on but is quite difficult to me.
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August 05, 2017, 04:57:44 PM
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Any special speculation threads for BCH please? I think I can't discuss them here.
Still if somebody could help, just tell me when the hell will this BullshitCash ever get pumped back? Now I am in a totally "fucked up" condition due to its price going 1/4th the price where I bought. Is it ever going to make that high or even my buy price (BTC0.21) back or is it a dream anyways?
I'm curious: Why did you buy it? Why did so many people buy it? Is it pure speculation, like most altcoins, without knowing what's really behind it?
I wish I could have sold at that price, I only got my 20 confirmations just now, and sold just under BTC0.07. During the 30 hour wait for confirmations, I saw the price drop with every confirmation. That just means many people want to cash out.

Long term I can imagine the price in dollars will go up again, when the Bitcoin price goes up much higher. I'd be surprised if the price in Bitcoin goes up much.

BTC > $3270.00   Grin
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August 05, 2017, 05:25:00 PM
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Supporting #BTC and i would like it to go higher and higher.
I dont see any risk's..
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August 05, 2017, 05:45:05 PM
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when can we expect bch network to start moving smootly?

If blocks don't start to be regular this network have no future....

watch and learn

the real drama hasn't even started yet, its all part of the evil bigblocker plan

Could you please explain better? What is the evil bigblocker plan?

I'm trying to understand what's going on but is quite difficult to me.

a couple articles to get you started

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-28/bitcoin-civil-war-over

https://www.coindesk.com/even-miners-hate-bitcoin-cash-might-want-mine/

think hard about who benefits from what

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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August 05, 2017, 05:56:00 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2066324.msg20643386#msg20643386

Can someone confirm that these steps are safe?

Also, can someone list an exchange that will generate a new deposit address for each transaction?

Otherwise how are we supposed to stay private? Sending all of your coins into the same address, it's pretty dumb. You should use a different address for each public key, but the problem is, the exchanges i've tested don't generate new deposit addresses.... what can be done?
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August 05, 2017, 06:16:55 PM
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Any special speculation threads for BCH please? I think I can't discuss them here.
Still if somebody could help, just tell me when the hell will this BullshitCash ever get pumped back? Now I am in a totally "fucked up" condition due to its price going 1/4th the price where I bought. Is it ever going to make that high or even my buy price (BTC0.21) back or is it a dream anyways?

If you bought BCC then I fear you will have to put the trade down as lost or at best wait a very very long time to recoup the losses.

Long time but till when? Can anyone speculate about that too?
I am scared myself why the hell did I even believe in this crap coin! I believe I did it just because it emerged from Bitcoin itself and is going to run with it hand in hand and seeing support of some big companies made me think that this will be something for at least a few days but it proved a nightmare for me.

If it were me I'd dump and move on but I have no patience and the sight of it going down lower each day would just make things worse.
Typically the moves I make are the wrong ones, so do the oppositte of what i would do would probably be your best choice.

That's what I would do too. Cut the losses and pump whatever cash you have left from the sell back into something more profitable - BTC, ETH, STRATIS, SC, or MAID.

Dumping and moving on but with what? None of the coins may do a 4x instant but I have been told by some crypto friends to wait till 8th August, I have also seen the supporter of BCH (Roger Ver) selling his BTC for BCC (don't know exactly what he did) but it could prove good for BCH and I am ready to wait with the amount of coins I have invested because it's too early and I think this will prove to be one of my longest trades I will ever have. I am extremely happy to see Bitcoins above 3270 (at the time of writing this) an hope to see higher prices like 4k becoming possible easily now.
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August 05, 2017, 06:34:00 PM
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I do not understand someone can claim BCH from its BTC without losing the amount of bitcoin equal to its price?
Is this the free money created during the split of all investors' brains?

In a nutshell, yes.

But that's also why the price will probably crash to almost nothing. It's free so it's worthless.
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August 05, 2017, 07:00:02 PM
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Bitcoin growing and growing today... why? its because people sell their free BCC ?
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August 05, 2017, 07:17:51 PM
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I do not understand someone can claim BCH from its BTC without losing the amount of bitcoin equal to its price?
Is this the free money created during the split of all investors' brains?

In a nutshell, yes.

But that's also why the price will probably crash to almost nothing. It's free so it's worthless.

If something was acquired for free, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's worthless, value is determined by other people who want to participate in transaction (subjective theory of value) and not by amount of resources used to produce something (labor theory of value). Free distribution of this coin creates a sell pressure on the market, but in the long run it's price will be decided by how good the code is, and that's why I believe Bcash won't survive longer than a year.

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August 05, 2017, 08:01:26 PM
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Electroncash "Unconfirmed" - "Confirmed" - "Unconfirmed"

Next, I imported the private key into electron and waited for confirmation to receive the bcc. Around 4 am, the balance was available at electroncash, meanwhile I was waiting for the account verification at Kraken to be able to send them. I went to sleep and when I woke up to check the electroncash was "unconfirmed" again, and a "low fee". I did not do anything at all, I did not turn off the pc, nor did I close my wallet, because I do not remember the password I used to encrypt it. How to recover password?

Address: 19hdyXZQVUNMrDFdRmj2tPnbFiS7euEfq9
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August 05, 2017, 08:09:09 PM
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If something was acquired for free, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's worthless, value is determined by other people who want to participate in transaction (subjective theory of value) and not by amount of resources used to produce something (labor theory of value). Free distribution of this coin creates a sell pressure on the market, but in the long run it's price will be decided by how good the code is, and that's why I believe Bcash won't survive longer than a year.

So Roger Ver now has thousands of bitcoin as well as thousands of the bitcoin fork too

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August 05, 2017, 08:52:20 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2066324.msg20643386#msg20643386

Can someone confirm that these steps are safe?

Also, can someone list an exchange that will generate a new deposit address for each transaction?

Otherwise how are we supposed to stay private? Sending all of your coins into the same address, it's pretty dumb. You should use a different address for each public key, but the problem is, the exchanges i've tested don't generate new deposit addresses.... what can be done?

Bitfinex generates new deposit addresses on request, I think.
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August 05, 2017, 09:14:08 PM
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im still a bit lost on this please forgive me does the 2nd computer need to be connected to the internet?
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August 05, 2017, 10:28:13 PM
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Also, can someone list an exchange that will generate a new deposit address for each transaction?

Otherwise how are we supposed to stay private? Sending all of your coins into the same address, it's pretty dumb. You should use a different address for each public key, but the problem is, the exchanges i've tested don't generate new deposit addresses.... what can be done?

Bitfinex generates new deposit addresses on request, I think.

hitbtc.com does
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August 05, 2017, 11:32:42 PM
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Any special speculation threads for BCH please? I think I can't discuss them here.
Still if somebody could help, just tell me when the hell will this BullshitCash ever get pumped back? Now I am in a totally "fucked up" condition due to its price going 1/4th the price where I bought. Is it ever going to make that high or even my buy price (BTC0.21) back or is it a dream anyways?

If you bought BCC then I fear you will have to put the trade down as lost or at best wait a very very long time to recoup the losses.

Long time but till when? Can anyone speculate about that too?
I am scared myself why the hell did I even believe in this crap coin! I believe I did it just because it emerged from Bitcoin itself and is going to run with it hand in hand and seeing support of some big companies made me think that this will be something for at least a few days but it proved a nightmare for me.

how much did you spend at .21?

2, 3 ,4 btc or more?

do you have any btc left?

it is round .058 

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