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June 16, 2018, 02:07:25 AM
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It's good that someone has cleared up the whole situation in such informative and professional manner,And also i need to say that I love free coins Smiley Dumped all of them thanks BCC .
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June 16, 2018, 07:10:43 AM
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It's good that someone has cleared up the whole situation in such informative and professional manner, thank you for that. Additionally, I am unable to find an adequately tested wallet that I'd be okay enough to transact with.
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June 18, 2018, 09:53:18 AM
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I used electron per instructions provided, transferred BCC to HitBTC, sold for BTC, transferred the BTC out, all without any problems.
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June 20, 2018, 10:14:34 AM
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Couldn't you just send all your BTC to an online wallet like coinbase or blockchain.info then  import your private keys on electrum, send the bcc to bittrex, delete your current btc core wallet from your computer, download a new one with new keys all on the same computer? What would be wrong with doing it this way?
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June 22, 2018, 12:14:12 PM
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thank you for your efforts in helping us to instruct so there may be many mistakes, I never intend to sell my bitcoin for now and I agree with it. But my concern in the past few days is how to be guided in the process of dividing bitcoin and bitcoin money but the above explanation is easy to go about split except my wallet or exchange comes with the opposite.
July-August is the most challenging month in bitcoin business for both miners and exchangers.
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June 26, 2018, 07:23:09 AM
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I used Electrum Cash wallet when I separated my coins.   Also many others claim the electrum cash desktop wallet is one of the best wallets for BCH.

Also, there are tools created for trezor users and many other wallets.  Ask questions and do lots of research if you are looking to split your coins and not sure best way to proceed. 

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July 01, 2018, 02:58:07 AM
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I have a question. If I send a BTC there would they credit me the BCC too?
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July 01, 2018, 06:36:57 AM
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Thanks were useful to read and learn from this, something new.
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July 11, 2018, 10:25:43 AM
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Thank you very much for the tutorial.

I also recommend that everyone is considering using Bitcoin Cash carefully. Anyone with your private key has access to your money in both lines.
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July 12, 2018, 12:06:25 AM
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Thank you very much for the tutorial.

I also recommend that everyone is considering using Bitcoin Cash carefully. Anyone with your private key has access to your money in both lines.

you can send the btc to another wallet first before you do the separation with your private keys or whatever method to get your BCH.  I think that is mentioned in this tutorial. 

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July 14, 2018, 08:38:02 AM
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Some great security steps, but extremely useful for security.
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July 18, 2018, 07:43:16 AM
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I was caught on the pumping of the BCC and went in only to see the coins going south since and i am now stucked in the trade can't get out because my portfolio is now depleted. Sitting here hoping it will move up north for me to recover just small part of my portfolio. Smiley
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July 26, 2018, 04:49:19 AM
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Realy I can't find/get my privat key , could somebody help me?) I keep my bitcoins in App Greenaddress . How can I get BCH ?
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July 26, 2018, 05:40:55 AM
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Executive summary

Bitcoin is working fine and you can use it as you were before, possibly with slightly more reorg risk for a while.

The BIP91/BIP148 split didn't occur

As had been expected for the last week or so, the big potential split which caused all of the Aug 1 hubbub didn't happen, due to BIP91/BIP148 succeeding. There's a small chance that this split could still happen sometime between now and around Aug 10, but it looks very unlikely at this point.

Bcash split, creating an altcoin

If you had some number of BTC as of approximately 14:00 UTC, and if these bitcoins were secured by private keys controlled by you or in a Bcash-supporting online wallet, it is now possible for you to claim the same number of Bcash coins (BCH/BCC). Bcash is an altcoin based on Bitcoin; since it split, it is now 100% independent from Bitcoin other than the carried-over balances.

Bcash claims to have replay protection, but this is only a Bcash miner policy. Any Bcash miner could still replay transactions. Therefore, you can't safely rely on it.

Instructions for safely splitting your BCH from your BTC

Here are general split instructions. If your wallet software gives different instructions, use those instead.

These are the best instructions I could come up with quickly. Maybe someone will eventually come up with a more convenient way of doing it. Note that while I believe these instructions to be safe and reasonable, you are solely responsible for your safety here.

 1. Decide whether you want to bother splitting your coins at all. Is it actually worthwhile to remove your coins from cold storage (or whatever)? If you take no particular action and continue using Bitcoin as normal, then your BCH is likely (but not guaranteed) to remain associated with the current private keys due to BCH's pseudo-replay-protection; you could therefore maybe claim your BCH later on if you want. If you want to claim your BCH now, continue to the next steps.
 2. Create a totally new logical wallet with a new mnemonic, etc. Just creating new addresses is not sufficient: the new wallet needs to be completely separate from the old one. The new wallet's private keys should be under your personal control just in case your transaction is replayed or something else goes wrong. Make sure you have backups of the new wallet.
 3. Send all of the BTC in your old wallet to your new wallet, and wait until this transaction has 30 confirmations. (If you are really itching to get your BCH, it would not be totally crazy to wait for as few as 3 confirmations, but there is some risk with that.) Note that sending all of your BTC in a single transaction is likely to be harmful to your privacy; if you care about this, you might want to send it in several smaller transactions to several different addresses on the new wallet.
 4. On a separate computer that you wouldn't too much mind being compromised, install a BCash wallet such as one of the ones listed on bitcoincash.org. (Warning: some Bcash wallets are known to overwrite important files belonging to their Bitcoin counterparts.) Or use a Web-based exchange/wallet supporting Bcash. Import the private keys from your old, now-empty Bitcoin wallet into this Bcash wallet. Now you have BCH which you can handle as you wish. Note that BCH transactions may be very slow to confirm for a couple of days.

Continuing risks

Although I am giving a general "all clear" at this point because the risk of serious issues has dropped substantially, some turbulence is still possible due to BIP91/BIP148 and the rollout of SegWit:

 - If you are using a full-node wallet (eg. Bitcoin Core), you should require 30 confirmations for high-value, untrusted incoming transactions until SegWit locks in around Aug 10. Although seemingly quite unlikely at this point, it is possible that miners could fail to enforce BIP91/BIP148, which could cause very long reorgs (ie. confirmations could disappear, allowing double-spending). This seems unlikely enough that I probably wouldn't require extra confirmations for "normal" transactions, but if you absolutely cannot tolerate any particular transaction being reversed, then waiting for 30 confirmations would be most prudent.
 - If you are using a lightweight wallet, you should require 30 confirmations for all untrusted incoming transactions until SegWit locks in around Aug 10, and again for a couple of weeks after SegWit finally activates around Aug 24. Long reorgs or even persistent splits are possible if miners fail to properly enforce the rules of BIP91, BIP148, or SegWit, and lightweight wallets are particularly poor at handling such things because they will blindly accept invalid, probably-soon-to-be-orphaned blocks.
 - I don't recommend putting much BTC on hosted wallets / exchanges generally. Exactly how the above risks would be translated to these services will vary depending on how each service handles deposits, reorgs, and double-spends.

I appreciate the info
I was caught on the pumping of the BCC and went in only to see the coins going south since and i am now stucked in the trade can't get out because my portfolio is now depleted. Sitting here hoping it will move up north for me to recover just small part of my portfolio. Smiley

I appreciate the information you pass.
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July 27, 2018, 03:28:04 PM
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Realy I can't find/get my privat key , could somebody help me?) I keep my bitcoins in App Greenaddress . How can I get BCH ?
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contact the app developers to find out how to get your private keys or learn about how the wallet functions from other sources is where I would start.  Let us know the result here.  thanks

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