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August 02, 2017, 08:30:51 AM |
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The title says it all, sick of reading questions about BCC. There is alt subforum, why re these threads here? If I d post something about Etherum here, the entire thread would be moved, right?
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August 02, 2017, 08:32:36 AM |
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The title says it all, sick of reading questions about BCC. There is alt subforum, why re these threads here? If I d post something about Etherum here, the entire thread would be moved, right?
maybe theymos figures Bcash is such weak sauce that allowing it to get tarred and feathered in the main forums will teach everyone a lesson about the november hard fork. |
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August 02, 2017, 08:39:47 AM |
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Even if that Alt is part of bitcoin and it is of interest to all users of bitcoin. Also still not over and so the subject has the right to be in this thread. It reminds me of the debate about the glass of water half empty or half full.
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August 02, 2017, 08:41:13 AM |
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I agree with the OP in this matter. We are not going to allow Altcoins taking place here, so why allow discussions about BCH?
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August 02, 2017, 08:44:27 AM |
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it will die off in few days.. atleast the discussions..
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August 02, 2017, 08:46:28 AM |
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I agree with the OP in this matter. We are not going to allow Altcoins taking place here, so why allow discussions about BCH?
I saw a Bitcoin Cash thread in Speculation got moved to Altcoin Speculation. So maybe it's just forum by forum, mod by mod, and theymos hasn't opined on the matter. It doesn't seem like much of a threat to Bitcoin, I guess. With some luck, the Bitcoin Unlimited people will all flock to it, and we can go our separate ways. Maybe that's the idea? |
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August 02, 2017, 08:46:46 AM |
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That is true, BCC is altcoin and belongs to another section but I think that admins put it here because of all this confusion and bunch of questions of Bitcoin users regarding August 1st so it would be easier for users to find information and clear the final result. But, yes, eventualy it should be moved to altcoin section.
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August 02, 2017, 08:49:34 AM |
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I think you all sold your BCC thinking that the price would be 0  |
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August 02, 2017, 08:50:57 AM |
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Can't be considered an alt, is a new currency from the Nakamoto's ledger
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August 02, 2017, 08:55:14 AM |
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Can't be considered an alt, is a new currency from the Nakamoto's ledger
Anybody can hard fork Bitcoin right now. There could be a billion hard forks from "Nakamoto's ledger"..... are they all Bitcoin? Of course not! It's not compatible with the original chain, so it's an alt. That's how I see it, anyway. But I don't care if it's talked about on the main forums. I love a little FUD. It's good for the soul! |
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August 02, 2017, 08:59:26 AM |
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I agree with this one bitcoin cash is indeed an alt coin thus the post about it should be at alt coin discussion. But, i think that theymos is allowing it in the meantime because BCC is a hot topic due to free token. Just be patient OP i think it will be move after a couple of hours or days
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August 02, 2017, 09:05:28 AM |
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Can't be considered an alt, is a new currency from the Nakamoto's ledger
Anybody can hard fork Bitcoin right now. There could be a billion hard forks from "Nakamoto's ledger"..... are they all Bitcoin? Of course not! It's not compatible with the original chain, so it's an alt. That's how I see it, anyway. But I don't care if it's talked about on the main forums. I love a little FUD. It's good for the soul! Them are something like alts but if them surpasse the original bitcoin then become the main bitcoin |
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August 02, 2017, 09:14:08 AM |
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Can't be considered an alt, is a new currency from the Nakamoto's ledger
nope, when it's alternative from bitcoin its always be an alternative, the origin of cryptocoin never be changed, Bitcoin is only one, long live True Bitcoin, the only masterpiece from Nakamato  |
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August 02, 2017, 09:17:49 AM |
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Can't be considered an alt, is a new currency from the Nakamoto's ledger
Anybody can hard fork Bitcoin right now. There could be a billion hard forks from "Nakamoto's ledger"..... are they all Bitcoin? Of course not! It's not compatible with the original chain, so it's an alt. That's how I see it, anyway. But I don't care if it's talked about on the main forums. I love a little FUD. It's good for the soul! Them are something like alts but if them surpasse the original bitcoin then become the main bitcoin Well, that's a matter of branding. I mean, "surpasses" in what sense? Cumulative proof of work? Network activity? Certainly, one can fork Bitcoin's code and try to call it Bitcoin, and maybe a bunch of people will follow. But inevitably, that will be a schism, not a "surpassing" of Bitcoin. I think it's much more likely that there would be multiple viable chains vying for the title of "Bitcoin" than for something like Bitcoin Cash to dominate outright. |
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August 02, 2017, 09:18:58 AM |
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The title says it all, sick of reading questions about BCC. There is alt subforum, why re these threads here? If I d post something about Etherum here, the entire thread would be moved, right?
Your assumption and conclusion is right but the issue at the moment is the confusion in which people are coming to know more about what is going. And even me, if I want to get an update, I just come to bitcoin discussion rather than the alt section of the forum but I believe in few days everything will become clearer and everyone will know its rightful place without the need to tell them. |
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August 02, 2017, 09:19:03 AM |
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I agree and so I am also one of the people who will prefer to see all those threads about Bitcoin Cash moved to the Altcoin section where it shall be. Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash are both differents. Bcash is an altcoin based on Bitcoin; since it split, it is now 100% independent from Bitcoin other than the carried-over balances. We need justice! Otherwise, we can make different threads about others altcoins in this section as well. I am sure that it can confuse the newbies who recenly started to take interest in Bitcoin and are reading the forum |
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August 02, 2017, 09:35:23 AM |
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I think Bitcoin Cash is in a mix of both worlds and that is Bitcoin and the altcoin faction and it wouldnt be fair for bitcoiners to miss this chance to get their split coins from the bitcoins they hold because they did not see a thread walking them through on how to get their bitcoin cash BCH. Probably when word gets out about BCH it will find its way to the alt section
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August 02, 2017, 09:53:03 AM |
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Don't worry, they'll start being moved shortly.
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August 02, 2017, 09:58:04 AM |
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It was ok when the threads were being created during hard fork or before hard fork and the appearance of bitcoin cash in such threads was ok but now that everything has come to normal all threads regarding bitcoin cash should be created and moved to altcoins section.
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August 02, 2017, 10:00:54 AM |
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Don't worry, they'll start being moved shortly.
Yeah bcc is an alt so it should be on its proper thread. Dont make bcc like btc because it will never be. It is just a trying hard coin that is " a wanna be " bitcoin. Soon many will dump this coin as this gonna be one of those sh*tcoin. |
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August 02, 2017, 10:22:57 AM |
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Don't worry, they'll start being moved shortly.
Yeah bcc is an alt so it should be on its proper thread. Dont make bcc like btc because it will never be. It is just a trying hard coin that is " a wanna be " bitcoin. Soon many will dump this coin as this gonna be one of those sh*tcoin. it will definitely since I didn't know yet how it use and how am I gonna make more of it. I thought I could have instanly bcc if I have some on my wallet but still have none, I might not be able to have any since I will keep on btc. They're moving some thread already. |
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August 02, 2017, 10:24:22 AM |
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This is a discussion about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is ....  Here's the thing. Since Core wanted the world to know they created Bitcoin, except for the wise ones, Bitcoin has been rebranded to Bitcoin Core. Thus Bitcoin Core should be in the alt section. Bitcoin should have no new threads. Sounds daft but true. Hence, if Bitcoin Core is allowed then Bitcoin Cash should also be allowed. Discussion about Bitcoin XT, Classic, Unlimited are allowed. Bitcoin Cash is a fork from the original Bitcoin chain, the same chain before being rebranded to Bitcoin Core. There is room for both Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Cash to coexist together in the Bitcoin forum, since... well... you know... Bitcoin doesn't exist. |
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August 03, 2017, 02:43:42 AM |
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August 03, 2017, 03:21:11 AM |
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Does that mean we will move BTC threads to altcoins when another coin overtakes it's marketcap? The Current BTC is not the original either...
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August 03, 2017, 03:40:14 AM |
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I don't agree with this view. In my opinion, BCH can't be treated as an altcoin like Ethereum or Ripple. Although there was no chain split, Bitcoin Cash closely resembles Bitcoin and is essentially a clone of Bitcoin. And there is a small chance that BCH may even replace BTC as the top crypto-coin in terms of market capitalization. If that happens, then BCH will be regarded as the "real" Bitcoin.
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August 03, 2017, 06:48:40 AM |
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I don't agree with this view. In my opinion, BCH can't be treated as an altcoin like Ethereum or Ripple. Although there was no chain split, Bitcoin Cash closely resembles Bitcoin and is essentially a clone of Bitcoin. And there is a small chance that BCH may even replace BTC as the top crypto-coin in terms of market capitalization. If that happens, then BCH will be regarded as the "real" Bitcoin.
If that happens, then BCH will be regarded as the "real" Bitcoin Then why you are quoting "real"? There is only one original called BTC everything else is an ALT. That is my oppinion and it must be treated as an alt. Buy the way it is not quite clear if this is BCC or BCH |
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August 03, 2017, 12:56:27 PM |
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Any direct Fork of BTC should be included in the Bitcoin Discussion.
No. Since technically it is the same Bitcoin Ledger up until fork time.
Irrelevant. And to be honest , None of you really know which coin , 1 MB Bitcoin or 8 MB Bitcoin Cash will be the Champion this time next year.
Irrelevant. This 1mb bitcoin/segwit/LN is Greg Maxwell's vision and the 8MB Bitcoin Cash is closer to Satoshi vision.
It is not. Stop misquoting (irrelevant) visions. I don't agree with this view. In my opinion, BCH can't be treated as an altcoin like Ethereum or Ripple.
Of course it can. Just because it has a premine with all existing BTC balances, that doesn't mean that it isn't an alt. Although there was no chain split, Bitcoin Cash closely resembles Bitcoin and is essentially a clone of Bitcoin.
The chain did split. What are you talking about? And there is a small chance that BCH may even replace BTC as the top crypto-coin in terms of market capitalization. If that happens, then BCH will be regarded as the "real" Bitcoin.
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August 03, 2017, 04:43:20 PM |
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Does BCH have the longest chain of blocks? XDoes BCH have the most hash power behind it? XDoes BCH have the highest price? XDoes BCH have the most use cases? XDoes BCH have the highest market cap? XThere is absolutely nothing that BCH offers that should make it equal with Bitcoin. It is alternate chain with different consensus rules. It is an Altcoin. It belongs in the Altcoin section. Perhaps if the above questions change over time this can be discussed again. For now, it belongs in the same place as the other 'Bitcoins'. |
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August 04, 2017, 03:48:40 PM |
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BCC has created some confusion among the Bitcoin holders related to split, withdrawal, wallets etc. That is why I think Theymos allowed it to be discussed in Bitcoin board. Else it is nothing more than an altcoin as any other coin else than Bitcoin is simply an altcoin, no matter how much is it related to Bitcoin.
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August 05, 2017, 01:10:29 AM |
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Bitcoin Cash is flooding Electrum. Hate the confusion for true BTC users of Electrum. Don't get me wrong, I will spend lots of time studying BCC when the dust settles. Electrum is not the place for all this confusion ---------------------- an opinion here.
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August 05, 2017, 02:23:31 AM |
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Does BCH have the longest chain of blocks? XDoes BCH have the most hash power behind it? XDoes BCH have the highest price? XDoes BCH have the most use cases? XDoes BCH have the highest market cap? XThere is absolutely nothing that BCH offers that should make it equal with Bitcoin. It is alternate chain with different consensus rules. It is an Altcoin. It belongs in the Altcoin section. Perhaps if the above questions change over time this can be discussed again. For now, it belongs in the same place as the other 'Bitcoins'. Price is a very fickle animal. Bitcoin cash may very well overtake BTC in the future, even if it is for a short period. Discussing whether BTH is an altcoin or not at that point may be tricky, if we decide to fix price/marketcap as the basis of decision now. |
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August 05, 2017, 03:45:48 AM |
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Does BCH have the longest chain of blocks? XDoes BCH have the most hash power behind it? XDoes BCH have the highest price? XDoes BCH have the most use cases? XDoes BCH have the highest market cap? XThere is absolutely nothing that BCH offers that should make it equal with Bitcoin. It is alternate chain with different consensus rules. It is an Altcoin. It belongs in the Altcoin section. Perhaps if the above questions change over time this can be discussed again. For now, it belongs in the same place as the other 'Bitcoins'. Price is a very fickle animal. Bitcoin cash may very well overtake BTC in the future, even if it is for a short period. Discussing whether BTH is an altcoin or not at that point may be tricky, if we decide to fix price/marketcap as the basis of decision now. Overtake? why not mate, if someone idiot enough to pay me $2500+ for my BCH I will kiss their asses, what has happened since 1st Aug? Fees are low and confirmation time is less than 15 minutes. if Wu wants to give his money to pump his altcoin? please let him do it, besides -ck already said the issue is under control. |
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August 05, 2017, 10:10:35 AM |
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Price is a very fickle animal. Bitcoin cash may very well overtake BTC in the future, even if it is for a short period.
Discussing whether BTH is an altcoin or not at that point may be tricky, if we decide to fix price/marketcap as the basis of decision now.
That is absolute nonsense. The price is only one factor that is to be considered, and it is by far not enough alone to determine what Bitcoin is or isn't. Bcash, aka BCH can never be Bitcoin. A contentious hard fork, especially one with near zero support before its execution is an altcoin. It does not matter if it has more hashpower later, it does not even matter if Bitcoin in its current state dies. BCH is an, and will remain an altcoin. Overtake? why not mate, if someone idiot enough to pay me $2500+ for my BCH I will kiss their asses, what has happened since 1st Aug?
Every time BCH mines a block or two, it dumps lower and lower.  It would be going much down if they didn't have problems with multisignature setups. Due to the lack of wallets that are actually working as intended, for example, I am forced to create a raw multisignature transaction to dump my coins. This has created a significant delay, and the 20 required confirmations on Bittrex do not help either. |
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August 19, 2017, 03:21:41 PM |
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Bcc is alto - yes, but its rapid take-off which we can now observe is undoubtedly interesting to users, I believe that this is advisable, and I see no errors on the part of administration
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August 19, 2017, 03:31:41 PM |
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I strongly agree woth op, bcc topic should only remain in the altcoin section. Because It is an alternative coin. And it is kind of annoying seeing it almost everywhere. There was also an instance where two posts/threads had the same questions and the interval was just two hours. I think it was yesterday. And it is covering up more important posts.
But i think theymos will do some action later on, maybe he's just letting it slide for now because of the recent split, besides, it has a connection with bitcoin since it is the result of the split. I just hope that after this gets cold, it won't stay on the mainland anymore and stay on the altcoin section.
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