Barbarian
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August 22, 2017, 08:30:56 PM |
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I like how professional Satoshi always is. Never a slip up.
He probably planned the whole thing from the beginning, the timing was too perfect, everything was perfect and ready, bitcoin did not seem like a project that was just finished, it seems like he had concluded the project for some time, that gave him time to cover his tracks.
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kilobytez
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August 23, 2017, 06:30:36 AM |
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So is Bitcoin an alien technology? Since #post 2 says the algorithm came from a highly intelligent individual. There are so many possibilities out there since earth is under the center of attention from other galaxies. Ref : http://k.lenz.name/LB/2014/01/01/bitcoin-is-alien-technology/
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herminio
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August 24, 2017, 12:04:47 AM |
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Thank you for sharing those emails .
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Disobey.
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August 24, 2017, 12:25:05 PM |
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Very entertaining and interesting topic for sure. Will read all emails and all the interesting statements in this thread soon.
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iMaster
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August 24, 2017, 12:30:29 PM |
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What? Who writes such nonsense and reads? Do you still say that Satoshi has a alien from another galaxy or from Alpha Centauri.
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Kevondo
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August 24, 2017, 06:59:46 PM |
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Very entertaining and interesting topic for sure. Will read all emails and all the interesting statements in this thread soon.
right it is very entertaining …. But I think it will be just the rumors and these are the fake threats because I have heard about satoshi that he is like a mystery in the bitcoin and it is very suspicious to hear about the mails from satoshi so I think it is fake rumor about satoshi bitcoin so keep focus on your work and keep earning.
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August 24, 2017, 07:43:03 PM |
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There's stuff that bothers me about these emails that make them seem out of historical context. Below is an example: Hearn:"So many questions But it's rare that I encounter truly revolutionary ideas. The last time I was this excited about a new monetary scheme was when I discovered Ripple. If you have any thoughts on Ripple, I'd also love to hear them." ( https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4 lines 446-449) Satothi:"Ripple is interesting in that it's the only other system that does something with trust besides concentrate it into a central server." ( https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4 line 70) But, Ripple Labs wasn't established yet and it wasn't called "Ripple" until 6 October 2015. ( https://ripple.com/insights/a-new-chapter-for-ripple/) And Hearn's articulation of Ripple years later."I lack context, but I just wanted to point out that I gave my talk in September 2012 and the ripple.com/OpenCoin reboot didn't appear on the scene until after that. That's why when I talked about Ripple, I talked about it being decentralised - I was referring only to the original concept by Ryan Fugger and not the bitcoin/ripple hybrid that launched afterwards." ( https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2013Apr/0095.html)
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August 27, 2017, 09:14:41 PM |
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August 27, 2017, 09:38:19 PM |
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"The predecessor to the Ripple payment protocol, Ripplepay, was first developed in 2004 by Ryan Fugger, a web developer in Vancouver, British Columbia. Fugger conceived of the idea after working on a local exchange trading system in Vancouver, and his intent was to create a monetary system that was decentralized and could effectively allow individuals and communities to create their own money. Fugger's first iteration of this system, RipplePay.com,debuted in 2005 as a financial service to provide secure payment options to members of an online community via a global network." ..... "This led to the conception of a new system by Jed McCaleb of eDonkey network, which was designed and built by Arthur Britto and David Schwartz. In May 2011, they began developing a digital currency system in which transactions were verified by consensus among members of the network, rather than by the mining process used by bitcoin, which relies on blockchain ledgers." .... "In September 2012 the team co-founded the corporation OpenCoin, or OpenCoin Inc." ..... "On September 26, 2013, OpenCoin Inc. changed its name to Ripple Labs Inc., with Chris Larsen remaining CEO."
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Barbarian
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August 30, 2017, 03:53:31 AM |
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When there is a mystery as big as this, then you need to accept the fact that all kind of wild theories are going to begin to emerge, look at any important mystery and you will see it, so to me it is not all that weird that some may speculate with the wild theory that satoshi was not human.
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September 09, 2017, 07:19:41 AM |
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"By Moore's Law, we can expect hardware speed to be 10 times faster in 5 years and 100 times faster in 10. Even if Bitcoin grows at crazy adoption rates, I think computer speeds will stay ahead of the number of transactions."
I think it's safe to say that he saw asic's coming miles away but hoped that the adoption and progression in tech would even each other out
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January 16, 2018, 04:34:26 AM |
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This is so fascinating. Thank you so much!
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January 16, 2018, 04:35:21 AM |
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Wow, indeed fascinating, will use these for school!!
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January 16, 2018, 04:44:42 AM |
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Thanks for sharing with us. I enjoyed reading the conversations. All the best for your website
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SupportBitcoin
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January 16, 2018, 05:01:30 AM |
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Nice emails! Very insightful. Thanks for sharing.
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February 03, 2018, 04:48:11 AM |
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Publishing someone's private messages without their consent is generally considered unethical. In some situations it is less of a big deal and may be excusable, in others it is a really big deal.
Satoshi didn't make those emails public and I think it's not really anyone elses right to do so. If he wanted them public, presumably he would have made them public or would make them public now. Breaking his trust is a disrespect to the great contribution he made to the world.
Publication of his private emails may create personal risk of theft or physical harm for him and his family. The damage created from a loss of privacy can't be undone and it may not be obvious from even careful analysis what elements of a message may be revealing. Even the smallest of details could be potentially identifying. Disclosure of his private correspondence may have terrible consequences, far worse than publishing most other person's private emails.
From message which have previously been leaked, we know that Satoshi complained about the fixating and focusing on him and his identity. Too bad the people he complained about doing this did not respect his wishes.
His private messages have also been utilized by scammers to aid their inept impersonations.
Obsession with Bitcoin's creator detracts from the greatness of his accomplishment: he built a system where it doesn't matter who created it or why-- because we don't have to trust it or each other.
I hope that people will delete private messages they have and forever protect them from disclosure rather than publish them.
I have done so, and whatever I have or find I will not disclose and will continue to endeavor to secure so that I cannot disclose it through error or future weakness. Perhaps if you sit back and consider this some you will realize that there is some merit to these points, and you'll choose to abandon this project. I hope you do.
Cheers, Shameful. Shameful if they're legit, shameful if they're edited. ...
I appreciate your perspective, Greg. I had these e-mails for a couple of weeks now, and I took the time to analyze each sentence closely before sharing. I was unable to find anything that points in one person's direction, although that's not to say there isn't something there. There's just so much history in these e-mails that I really didn't want to disappear. Now we see why Satoshi had to disappear. He obviously could not trust anyone. Would he have answered any of Mike Hearn's questions if he knew that the e-mails were going to be published online? How do you know that your analysis is sufficient to prevent any harm? You haven't addressed any of the points in the above quotation. Just because there was so much history there means that it is okay for you to act unethically?
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April 01, 2018, 12:30:28 PM |
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Hi everyone, guys. After so many years, you still search for a name. This is the last message that was written on April 23 (bitcoinJ). My name is Jordi, April 23 is my saint, I am Satoshi. Craig Wright tried to supplant my identity with data from one of my hard drives. 1. From: Satoshi Nakamoto satoshin@gmx.com2. Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:40 PM 3. To: Mike Hearn < mike@plan99.net> 4. 5. 6. I had a few other things on my mind (as always). One is, are you planning on rejoining the community at some point (eg for code reviews), or is your plan to permanently step back from the limelight? 7. 8. 9. I've moved on to other things. It's in good hands with Gavin and everyone. 10. 11. I do hope your BitcoinJ continues to be developed into an alternative client. It gives Java devs something to work on, and it's easier with a simpler foundation that doesn't have to do everything. It'll get critical mass when impatient new users can get started using it while the other one is still downloading the block chain.
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April 05, 2018, 02:53:35 PM |
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how to confirm it is real Satoshi email? And what do you want for this?
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April 07, 2018, 02:54:57 PM |
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how to confirm it is real Satoshi email? And what do you want for this?
It is real. Behind Satoshi, first I was, then Hal Finney. This last mail, Hal wrote. Satoshi.
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May 09, 2018, 01:41:36 PM |
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very nice ! will be real
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