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[vlees]

Forgot to post the 10k sampleset.
Just as the 2827 one: Client seed is always 0. Serverseed is from 5/24/2013. WIN/LOSS is on numbers higher than 50.50.
So in case anyone thinks he can do some statistical analysis (it's useless, don't bother), you can use this data instead of fetching it yourself and possibly cause lots of bandwidth for the operators.

http://pastebin.com/izFyaPX5

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[Stunna]

We are encountering several issues, we will be down shortly. We also need to stock up on bitcoins again before we can support larger bets, we are currently down 300BTC within 5 days.


Sorry for any inconvenience.

[KingOfSports]

Wow sorry to hear this Stunna...

[Zaih]

Wow Stunna Sorry to hear.

I can loan you my 50 BTC (48 to be exact..) if you need?

Edit: Interest free of course.

[Coin.Karma]

Hey sorry to hear that.....

I had about 0.26 BTC there.....the withdrawal address for reference is 1B7az4yyTMeCHagSL896JB5sZauR7c9pA7

the deposit address I was provided was 1PE2kkjprPDP84Sqbgb9ocJ1YUZ4tLbcvX

thanks

[Zaih]

Any idea when you'll be back up, Stunna?

[Vink]

He said 24-48 Hours depending on when he gets more coins in stock.

[KingOfSports]

Well I just got really lucky with coinroll.it and won 2.55 btc....personally I'm glad I won there and not here...I don't know why but this is the first "house" I actually feel bad that they've lost so much (Stunna). Truly great customer service here.

[Zaih]

Well I just got really lucky with coinroll.it and won 2.55 btc....personally I'm glad I won there and not here...I don't know why but this is the first "house" I actually feel bad that they've lost so much (Stunna). Truly great customer service here.

I ALWAYS lose with them. It's so weird, I lost like 0.2 BTC betting tiny amounts. To me it feels like their house edge is like 100%.

I also like PrimeDice since it feels like it has more soul and Stunna is a legend Coinrull's multiplier is also pretty boring, the one on PrimeDice is ingenious. Only thing Coinroll did better was fast rolls, but seems like Stunna sorted that out for us.

CoinRoll > SatoshiDice any day though.

[Zaih]

Who says the house always wins? I wanted to try out PrimeDice especially after reading some of the comments. Guess I'll have to wait 48 hours.

Yeh 1% is tiny tbh. And despite the investigations on the prior page, proving their is no pattern & no bad functionality in the random script, I still am very skeptical of Stunna's RNG, I feel as if it's being abused.

[Namworld]

Well I just got really lucky with coinroll.it and won 2.55 btc....personally I'm glad I won there and not here...I don't know why but this is the first "house" I actually feel bad that they've lost so much (Stunna). Truly great customer service here.

I ALWAYS lose with them. It's so weird, I lost like 0.2 BTC betting tiny amounts. To me it feels like their house edge is like 100%.

I also like PrimeDice since it feels like it has more soul and Stunna is a legend Coinrull's multiplier is also pretty boring, the one on PrimeDice is ingenious. Only thing Coinroll did better was fast rolls, but seems like Stunna sorted that out for us.

CoinRoll > SatoshiDice any day though.

Coinroll has been following more or less closely the 1% house edge. Bets do remain provably fair and the whole list of bets is public. Rolls are based on the account's last tx ID. Although when looking at individual users, some are average, some are very lucky and some are very unlucky. But for those with a very large amount of bets (thousands), it starts getting quite close to 1% edge.

I don't quite see the difference for the multiplier thing. Other than being presented differently (Under X/65,535 for CR or Over x/100 for PD)... works exactly the same way. To me PrimeDice and Coinroll are essentially clones.

Coinroll's provably fair system is better tho.

[scalar33]

Well I just got really lucky with coinroll.it and won 2.55 btc....personally I'm glad I won there and not here...I don't know why but this is the first "house" I actually feel bad that they've lost so much (Stunna). Truly great customer service here.

I ALWAYS lose with them. It's so weird, I lost like 0.2 BTC betting tiny amounts. To me it feels like their house edge is like 100%.

I also like PrimeDice since it feels like it has more soul and Stunna is a legend Coinrull's multiplier is also pretty boring, the one on PrimeDice is ingenious. Only thing Coinroll did better was fast rolls, but seems like Stunna sorted that out for us.

CoinRoll > SatoshiDice any day though.

Coinroll has been following more or less closely the 1% house edge. Bets do remain provably fair and the whole list of bets is public. Rolls are based on the account's last tx ID. Although when looking at individual users, some are average, some are very lucky and some are very unlucky. But for those with a very large amount of bets (thousands), it starts getting quite close to 1% edge.

I don't quite see the difference for the multiplier thing. Other than being presented differently (Under X/65,535 for CR or Over x/100 for PD)... works exactly the same way. To me PrimeDice and Coinroll are essentially clones.

Coinroll's provably fair system is better tho.

How can you see how individual users have done there?

[Namworld]

You can get under the verification page the database dumps of bets/deposits/withdrawals/accounts

The provably fair system is based on the blockchain tx and all betting history is provided so it can be checked that rolls match the site's secret, the last tx id of user and the nonce (incremented by one on each bet). It's almost as easily auditable as SatoshiDice bets, but without the need for a Bitcoin transaction on each roll.

[Zaih]

Small analysis of the data above:

After 1: 25.04% win vs 24.94% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 2: 25.33% win vs 24.66% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 3: 24.83% win vs 25.11% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 4: 25.89% win vs 24.05% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 5: 25.4% win vs 24.51% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 6: 25.36% win vs 24.58% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 7: 25.33% win vs 24.66% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 8: 24.73% win vs 25.29% loss: 50.02% win chance
After 9: 25.01% win vs 25.01% loss: 50.02% win chance
After 10: 24.73% win vs 25.26% loss: 49.98% win chance
After 11: 25.01% win vs 24.94% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 12: 25.29% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 13: 25.26% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 14: 25.29% win vs 24.62% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 15: 24.66% win vs 25.26% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 16: 24.66% win vs 25.29% loss: 49.95% win chance
After 17: 25.61% win vs 24.3% loss: 49.91% win chance
After 18: 25.47% win vs 24.41% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 19: 25.19% win vs 24.69% loss: 49.88% win chance
After 20: 25.01% win vs 24.9% loss: 49.91% win chance

How to read? So, you have won the last round, you want to know what the chance of winning after 5 spins is. So in the row: After 5, you see it's 25.4%. Was your last round a loss, then after 5 it will be 24.51%.

(this is done with winning with 50.00 and higher).

What does this show? Nothing, it's random.

Hey vlees, what does the 25% chances relate to? I know you've probably clearly explained it however I'm still a little confused. Shouldn't it be 50% win 50% loss after losing x amount irregardless? I don't see how the 25%'s come in is all.

Also Namworld, I understand your a large investor in Coinroll judging by the trust you gave them (regarding the 200 BTC investment or what not), but I don't think Stunna would appreciate you advertising on his thread. Then again I might be wrong, sorry Stunna if you don't mind ^_^

[Namworld]

Ah, sorry if it is seen as advertising, I was just arguing a bit against what you said about always losing on Coinroll.

[Zaih]

Ah, sorry if it is seen as advertising, I was just arguing a bit against what you said about always losing on Coinroll.

Oh don't worry. I understand they're provably fair, I was just saying it felt like that. Sorry if I came off unfairly negative.

[Dabs]

As a condolence for the downtime, feel free to post your username on the thread and we will issue some free credit.

Is it this forum's username? or the username on the site primedice.com ? I want some free credit if you don't mind, but I haven't created an account on primedice.com

[Stunna]

As a condolence for the downtime, feel free to post your username on the thread and we will issue some free credit.

Is it this forum's username? or the username on the site primedice.com ? I want some free credit if you don't mind, but I haven't created an account on primedice.com

We'd be looking for your account name on PrimeDice, but I'll make an exception for you if you want to send me your payout address. 


-Stunna

[hasher87]

As a condolence for the downtime, feel free to post your username on the thread and we will issue some free credit.

Is it this forum's username? or the username on the site primedice.com ? I want some free credit if you don't mind, but I haven't created an account on primedice.com

We'd be looking for your account name on PrimeDice, but I'll make an exception for you if you want to send me your payout address. 


-Stunna

i want as well . User ID: Shah 

[Dabs]

We'd be looking for your account name on PrimeDice, but I'll make an exception for you if you want to send me your payout address. 

-Stunna

I guess you can use my sig address? no wait. I'll PM you a new one, so I don't mix up stuff.