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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. There's really no excuse for having the jackpot be manual, the only reason it's like that is so that players don't notice if they hit it. |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. There's really no excuse for having the jackpot be manual, the only reason it's like that is so that players don't notice if they hit it. Players who auto-roll mostly do not watch each and every bet. It's just too much to manually inform them about you hitting 77.77 twice in a row. |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. There's really no excuse for having the jackpot be manual, the only reason it's like that is so that players don't notice if they hit it. But still you can check it on their winning history right for hitting jackpot there? And it does not really easy to hit that is why people mostly will consider it not to watch on it because they never intend to really hit it although they have enough bankroll. As long as they get some profit then everything will be okay. This is what I can see from each gamblers |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore What you said doesn't make much sense. I am pretty sure if you hit the jackpot you automatically get the jackpot creddited into your account, as long as you made the min bet. Also the jackpot is a bonus, so by not wanting to play here because the jackpot is not fair doesn't make much sense. Most sites don't have jackpots like this actually. |
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Hello,
Do you have any plans to offer a rakeback to your customers?
I love to dice all night long, but I also love small incentives like smaller house edge or rakeback on Leveling. Everybody love 'free' money, right?
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Hello,
Do you have any plans to offer a rakeback to your customers?
I love to dice all night long, but I also love small incentives like smaller house edge or rakeback on Leveling. Everybody love 'free' money, right?
Yep! Check Heroes of the Week on our forum at forum.primedice.com. Higher rollers will also be sporadically contacted by our VIP managers through the website & offered special rake back dependent on how much you play. |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore What you said doesn't make much sense. I am pretty sure if you hit the jackpot you automatically get the jackpot creddited into your account, as long as you made the min bet. Also the jackpot is a bonus, so by not wanting to play here because the jackpot is not fair doesn't make much sense. Most sites don't have jackpots like this actually. No, you don't. Click the questionmark beside the jackpot amount and you'll see this This is a self reporting system, if you win please email support@primedice.com or contact us on Bitcointalk, Facebook or Twitter You have to report it on your own. But I guess it's okay since we all now realize the jackpot is there just to be there basically  |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore What you said doesn't make much sense. I am pretty sure if you hit the jackpot you automatically get the jackpot creddited into your account, as long as you made the min bet. Also the jackpot is a bonus, so by not wanting to play here because the jackpot is not fair doesn't make much sense. Most sites don't have jackpots like this actually. No, you don't. Click the questionmark beside the jackpot amount and you'll see this This is a self reporting system, if you win please email support@primedice.com or contact us on Bitcointalk, Facebook or Twitter You have to report it on your own. But I guess it's okay since we all now realize the jackpot is there just to be there basically @adaseb, if you're pretty sure about it being automatic, how 'bout we bet on it.  if I'm right, you pay me. if you're right, which you're pretty sure, I'll double my payment. |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore What you said doesn't make much sense. I am pretty sure if you hit the jackpot you automatically get the jackpot creddited into your account, as long as you made the min bet. Also the jackpot is a bonus, so by not wanting to play here because the jackpot is not fair doesn't make much sense. Most sites don't have jackpots like this actually. No, you don't. Click the questionmark beside the jackpot amount and you'll see this This is a self reporting system, if you win please email support@primedice.com or contact us on Bitcointalk, Facebook or Twitter You have to report it on your own. But I guess it's okay since we all now realize the jackpot is there just to be there basically @adaseb, if you're pretty sure about it being automatic, how 'bout we bet on it. if I'm right, you pay me. if you're right, which you're pretty sure, I'll double my payment. Yes I appologize, I didn't see that question mark. I am really surprised why they haven't made it automated. I guess the reason why they make you report the jackpot is to make sure you aren't using an autobot. That and it also reduces their chances of paying out a winning if someone doesn't know about the jackpot or they miss the winning rolls. |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore What you said doesn't make much sense. I am pretty sure if you hit the jackpot you automatically get the jackpot creddited into your account, as long as you made the min bet. Also the jackpot is a bonus, so by not wanting to play here because the jackpot is not fair doesn't make much sense. Most sites don't have jackpots like this actually. No, you don't. Click the questionmark beside the jackpot amount and you'll see this This is a self reporting system, if you win please email support@primedice.com or contact us on Bitcointalk, Facebook or Twitter You have to report it on your own. But I guess it's okay since we all now realize the jackpot is there just to be there basically @adaseb, if you're pretty sure about it being automatic, how 'bout we bet on it. if I'm right, you pay me. if you're right, which you're pretty sure, I'll double my payment. Yes I appologize, I didn't see that question mark. I am really surprised why they haven't made it automated. I guess the reason why they make you report the jackpot is to make sure you aren't using an autobot. That and it also reduces their chances of paying out a winning if someone doesn't know about the jackpot or they miss the winning rolls. Without a bot/autobet, i don't think anyone will be able roll 77.77. maybe someone could make a bot/browser plugin that records/takes a screenshot and alerts when 77.77 is rolled.  |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore What you said doesn't make much sense. I am pretty sure if you hit the jackpot you automatically get the jackpot creddited into your account, as long as you made the min bet. Also the jackpot is a bonus, so by not wanting to play here because the jackpot is not fair doesn't make much sense. Most sites don't have jackpots like this actually. No, you don't. Click the questionmark beside the jackpot amount and you'll see this This is a self reporting system, if you win please email support@primedice.com or contact us on Bitcointalk, Facebook or Twitter You have to report it on your own. But I guess it's okay since we all now realize the jackpot is there just to be there basically @adaseb, if you're pretty sure about it being automatic, how 'bout we bet on it. if I'm right, you pay me. if you're right, which you're pretty sure, I'll double my payment. Yes I appologize, I didn't see that question mark. I am really surprised why they haven't made it automated. I guess the reason why they make you report the jackpot is to make sure you aren't using an autobot. That and it also reduces their chances of paying out a winning if someone doesn't know about the jackpot or they miss the winning rolls. Well with Dicebot you can check all the rolls in the database, just use sqlitebrowser to open it. Just search for the 77.77 and you can see very easily if the next roll was also 77.77. But it's weird it isn't automatic like on other sites. It isn't that hard to make. |
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Without a bot/autobet, i don't think anyone will be able roll 77.77. maybe someone could make a bot/browser plugin that records/takes a screenshot and alerts when 77.77 is rolled. [/quote] the script has been posted in this topic,it should stop when you hit 77.7 twice but I would try and test it,just in case would suck if you hit it and miss the claim  but as it was mentioned,you should expect to rol lanywhere between 100.000.000 and .... alot of bets to have achance also 10k satoshi minimal bet makes it even harder to hit and profit in the end,but maybe there is a lucky mofo among us,lurking,unaware |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore What you said doesn't make much sense. I am pretty sure if you hit the jackpot you automatically get the jackpot creddited into your account, as long as you made the min bet. Also the jackpot is a bonus, so by not wanting to play here because the jackpot is not fair doesn't make much sense. Most sites don't have jackpots like this actually. No, you don't. Click the questionmark beside the jackpot amount and you'll see this This is a self reporting system, if you win please email support@primedice.com or contact us on Bitcointalk, Facebook or Twitter You have to report it on your own. But I guess it's okay since we all now realize the jackpot is there just to be there basically @adaseb, if you're pretty sure about it being automatic, how 'bout we bet on it. if I'm right, you pay me. if you're right, which you're pretty sure, I'll double my payment. Yes I appologize, I didn't see that question mark. I am really surprised why they haven't made it automated. I guess the reason why they make you report the jackpot is to make sure you aren't using an autobot. That and it also reduces their chances of paying out a winning if someone doesn't know about the jackpot or they miss the winning rolls. That doesn't make any sense The website has automatic betting, which is basically an autobot I mean, what's the difference? It's probably there to make the jackpot harder to get (as in people missing it). |
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Why it is so hard to hit the jackpot? Simply because it's all worth it. C'mon it's over a hundred BTC so expect that the chance is so small to hit it. Let's say you're the owner, wouldn't you do the same condition as what pd does with their jackpot. Who's owner will offer a jackpot with such amount without a very small chance? I bet no one. It's like the main event in sports, the main attraction. So it's way harder to hit than hitting 9900x.
I dont mind about the so small chance to hit the jackpot, but it is more about the jackpot system which is manual. I think many people will try to hit it with the lowest eligible bet amount (0.0001 for 1%) if the system is automatic. It is not fun to watch all the bets we made if we are only hunt for the jackpot. I hope they can make it into automatic system soon. They will not make it automatic if you asked me, if they want it to be automated they will do it before releasing or atleast few days after release but why until now it is manual? I believe the jackpot is there just because they want to attract more players to play and hunt. Who in the right might would hunt that jackpot manually while the chance is very very very low? That jackpot only gives me the feeling not to play in Primedice anymore What you said doesn't make much sense. I am pretty sure if you hit the jackpot you automatically get the jackpot creddited into your account, as long as you made the min bet. Also the jackpot is a bonus, so by not wanting to play here because the jackpot is not fair doesn't make much sense. Most sites don't have jackpots like this actually. No, you don't. Click the questionmark beside the jackpot amount and you'll see this This is a self reporting system, if you win please email support@primedice.com or contact us on Bitcointalk, Facebook or Twitter You have to report it on your own. But I guess it's okay since we all now realize the jackpot is there just to be there basically @adaseb, if you're pretty sure about it being automatic, how 'bout we bet on it. if I'm right, you pay me. if you're right, which you're pretty sure, I'll double my payment. Yes I appologize, I didn't see that question mark. I am really surprised why they haven't made it automated. I guess the reason why they make you report the jackpot is to make sure you aren't using an autobot. That and it also reduces their chances of paying out a winning if someone doesn't know about the jackpot or they miss the winning rolls. That doesn't make any sense The website has automatic betting, which is basically an autobot I mean, what's the difference? It's probably there to make the jackpot harder to get (as in people missing it). That was never the intention, jackpot was something one of our front-end devs put in while our Back-end guys were working on Stake. It's a freebie in a sense that we aren't taking a portion of bets to fund it, we just put 110+ of our own coins into it so if anything it just lowers the house edge very slightly. I don't think we'd make it so you are automatically credited 100+ coins but I'll look into adding some sort of alert so it can't be missed. |
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That was never the intention, jackpot was something one of our front-end devs put in while our Back-end guys were working on Stake. It's a freebie in a sense that we aren't taking a portion of bets to fund it, we just put 110+ of our own coins into it so if anything it just lowers the house edge very slightly. I don't think we'd make it so you are automatically credited 100+ coins but I'll look into adding some sort of alert so it can't be missed.
That's nice Though, it isn't very tasteful to be a self reporting system Running a gazillion bets, you won't be watching all of them rolling So that kind of an alert should be necessary.. |
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Aengus
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October 05, 2017, 01:08:57 AM |
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That was never the intention, jackpot was something one of our front-end devs put in while our Back-end guys were working on Stake. It's a freebie in a sense that we aren't taking a portion of bets to fund it, we just put 110+ of our own coins into it so if anything it just lowers the house edge very slightly. I don't think we'd make it so you are automatically credited 100+ coins but I'll look into adding some sort of alert so it can't be missed.
That's nice Though, it isn't very tasteful to be a self reporting system Running a gazillion bets, you won't be watching all of them rolling So that kind of an alert should be necessary.. Very fair point. We're still having this feature under review so it may be removed. If it stays it will be automated. Now that more of us are able to work on PD some awesome new features will start flowing through! |
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moooonu
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October 05, 2017, 02:44:40 AM |
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That was never the intention, jackpot was something one of our front-end devs put in while our Back-end guys were working on Stake. It's a freebie in a sense that we aren't taking a portion of bets to fund it, we just put 110+ of our own coins into it so if anything it just lowers the house edge very slightly. I don't think we'd make it so you are automatically credited 100+ coins but I'll look into adding some sort of alert so it can't be missed.
That's nice Though, it isn't very tasteful to be a self reporting system Running a gazillion bets, you won't be watching all of them rolling So that kind of an alert should be necessary.. Very fair point. We're still having this feature under review so it may be removed. If it stays it will be automated. Now that more of us are able to work on PD some awesome new features will start flowing through! None can keep an eye on each single bet as some of us are auto betting most of the times. Auto report system will be good and fair in all aspects as I have seen this feature for hitting jackpot on some other site. |
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Shinpako09
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October 05, 2017, 01:53:49 PM |
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That was never the intention, jackpot was something one of our front-end devs put in while our Back-end guys were working on Stake. It's a freebie in a sense that we aren't taking a portion of bets to fund it, we just put 110+ of our own coins into it so if anything it just lowers the house edge very slightly. I don't think we'd make it so you are automatically credited 100+ coins but I'll look into adding some sort of alert so it can't be missed.
Much better if the jackpot has been hit there's also a green bar appear on the screen like if there was a tip or depo received. So that they will know that they have hit the jackpot but would be better if different color or design of bar appear since it is a jackpot, much noticeable if ever. |
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