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February 18, 2018, 03:23:03 AM
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If you bet Martingale with 50% chance of winning, the maths are simple: Chance of losing one is 50%, two in a row 25%, three 12.5%, 6.25%, and so on.
15 in a row is like 0.003%, 1 in 33000

I've autobet enough on dice to know that those tiny chances of hitting the 15-streak loss happens all too easily. I can do 33,000 rolls in a few hours - and have often done so. Even with the lowest dice edge online, you'll hit it even quicker.

You are right, the "15 in a row is like 0.003%, 1 in 33000" is valid if you play only 15 times. In autobet you are playing multiple times a minute, after an hour you may have more than 500 rounds played, increasing the chance much higher than "0.003%.

For example, the chances of losing a coin toss (50% win/50% lose) 2 times in a row in 2 rounds is 25%:
OX
XO
XX <<
OO

The chances of losing a coin toss (50% win/50% lose) 2 times in a row in 3 rounds is 37.5%:
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That is why I prefer to play manually, and keep control of how much I bet, how much I win and lose.

You are correct however the way that the rolls are determined they are  determine by the hash function.

Unless the SHA get exploited or there is a weakness discovered they are essentially completely and independently random results which are not dependent on the prior result.

Hence many assume that since they got 15 losses in a row the next roll has to be a winner and that's how they go bust.

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February 19, 2018, 05:14:11 AM
Last edit: February 19, 2018, 07:26:09 AM by Stunna
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We're releasing an update soon and will be requiring users to change their Seed pair at some point today or tomorrow. When you place a roll it will simply allow you to set new provably fair seeds. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause, it will just take a few seconds and you can get back to playing immediately. We'll be doing this once every 3 months.


We will be down for 20-30 minutes while we apply this update.

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Still one of my favorite sites after all these years. 
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February 19, 2018, 12:25:21 PM
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Took 5 seconds to change the seed. The site is working perfectly for me, I've won 1k+ satoshis in 2 minutes. )
Talking about the probability, just now hui has posted in the chat that he had 140k reds in a row hunting 99.99. Be careful, guys. It might look like you'd have to make 30k-50k bets max to hit the number, but as we can see, sh*t happens. That's why I normally stop when I don't hit it within 200-300 bets thinking it's just not my day.

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February 19, 2018, 12:36:42 PM
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Still one of my favorite sites after all these years. 
I know that feeling bro!=)
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February 19, 2018, 01:29:23 PM
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We're releasing an update soon and will be requiring users to change their Seed pair at some point today or tomorrow. When you place a roll it will simply allow you to set new provably fair seeds. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause, it will just take a few seconds and you can get back to playing immediately. We'll be doing this once every 3 months.


We will be down for 20-30 minutes while we apply this update.


Congrats Stunna. You found another way to scam people. Seed Pairs were changed automaticaly during update without notify of users. And than, upon start up it force to change seed again before placing a bet. So it's twice in a row. And now NObody can verify their last bets. Nobody on Prime. And Support also. You did nt inform your users about it. My account stuck on deep red streak. I was saving some money to continue, but your system simply reseted seed. I would never Belive that 83 red is possible on chance 24. It happens once in 108 years, and not in 529 bets as it was on my account. I've lost money and time on your Prime. By the way, after your update it is not possible to play from api in manual mode. upon placing several bets it just hangs up. Due to that of that I've made alooote of WRONG bets trying to check it out.  Lost last drp of my trust. hope others will understand it soon. with no regards. armada.
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February 19, 2018, 02:04:12 PM
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Took 5 seconds to change the seed. The site is working perfectly for me, I've won 1k+ satoshis in 2 minutes. )
Talking about the probability, just now hui has posted in the chat that he had 140k reds in a row hunting 99.99. Be careful, guys. It might look like you'd have to make 30k-50k bets max to hit the number, but as we can see, sh*t happens. That's why I normally stop when I don't hit it within 200-300 bets thinking it's just not my day.

I remember that streak,hui got one of the unluckiest runs ever
and then the seed was reset by the way! but he managed to hit some max win bet nevertheless and recover at least 50 btc or was it 40 at the time,don't remember
in three months you will be able to make more than 50k bets,but auto reset of the seed is bad news
when martingaling,use the simple (or rather,simplistic) 13x rule
i.e. you have to expect your multiplier *13 reds in a row
for example for a 2x multiplier your bank better cover 26 reds,for a 5x-65 etc.  it gives you a very rough estimation but it is better than
saying you get 83 reds in a row on 24x and it happens once in 108 years Smiley

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February 19, 2018, 02:42:15 PM
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Hello all. I'm playing PrimeDice since 2016 and had no issues with that casino.
about 9 days ago I won 13 BTC, but my payout was held due to manual review. Administration contacted me and asked for verification. I sent them my ID, my photo where I holding my ID, they called me with Telegram, we spoke, I answered a lot of questions, and FINALLY, I got my money.
After few days I was lucky again, and after losing something like 15 BTC I won 43 BTC. Guess what? It was 7 days ago, and I still didn't get my money.

I feel really frustrated and angry as much as could be the one, who can't get his ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS (with rate 1btc=10500). I speak with admins almost every day, and all they say is "We need time to review your case" or "sorry, no news, but be patient, your BTC are safe". Noone from administration can answer my simple question "when I will receive my money". All they say is "we are reviewing your case".
I am a businessman, I have my own companies, I play fair.

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February 19, 2018, 06:34:27 PM
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Hello all. I'm playing PrimeDice since 2016 and had no issues with that casino.
about 9 days ago I won 13 BTC, but my payout was held due to manual review. Administration contacted me and asked for verification. I sent them my ID, my photo where I holding my ID, they called me with Telegram, we spoke, I answered a lot of questions, and FINALLY, I got my money.
After few days I was lucky again, and after losing something like 15 BTC I won 43 BTC. Guess what? It was 7 days ago, and I still didn't get my money.

I feel really frustrated and angry as much as could be the one, who can't get his ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS (with rate 1btc=10500). I speak with admins almost every day, and all they say is "We need time to review your case" or "sorry, no news, but be patient, your BTC are safe". Noone from administration can answer my simple question "when I will receive my money". All they say is "we are reviewing your case".
I am a businessman, I have my own companies, I play fair.

Thanks for reply!

This is obviously something we don't like, but it's not uncommon in online casinos and sports betting websites.
4 years ago I won something like 28000 dollars in BWIN and I had to wait 3 weeks to cashout, and we are talking about 5% of what you won in Primedice (500000 dollars).

You will get paid for sure, don't worry about that.

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February 19, 2018, 08:51:57 PM
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Hello all. I'm playing PrimeDice since 2016 and had no issues with that casino.
about 9 days ago I won 13 BTC, but my payout was held due to manual review. Administration contacted me and asked for verification. I sent them my ID, my photo where I holding my ID, they called me with Telegram, we spoke, I answered a lot of questions, and FINALLY, I got my money.
After few days I was lucky again, and after losing something like 15 BTC I won 43 BTC. Guess what? It was 7 days ago, and I still didn't get my money.

I feel really frustrated and angry as much as could be the one, who can't get his ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS (with rate 1btc=10500). I speak with admins almost every day, and all they say is "We need time to review your case" or "sorry, no news, but be patient, your BTC are safe". Noone from administration can answer my simple question "when I will receive my money". All they say is "we are reviewing your case".
I am a businessman, I have my own companies, I play fair.


Thanks for reply!

Can you provide more info?

Specifically how much BTC did you deposit?

Because many casinos these days flag a withdraw if the deposit looks suspicious. I think over a certain dollar amount, maybe > $100,000 or higher or lower every deposit needs to be manually checked to make sure it wasn't from a dark net transaction or hacked funds.

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February 19, 2018, 09:14:31 PM
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Hi Noyer. This casino is probably Bankrupt. That's why they start to play dirty, taking off last chance to recover looses by changing seeds, not paying big wins, verification shit procedures etc. Bitcoin Casinos should be based on Anonymity. Why should you send your private info ? They don't provide this private info from their side if someone deposit high ammount. I also get started with Prime since 2016, and there were no issues earlier, when BTC price was low. At present time - it is different casino, diferent Primedice, than before. Unfortunately. Just one Advise for Stunna / Edward  --- please remove lable Fairplay/Fairness ETC/// it is not about you. Nobody from your support can not verify my bets. That is why You change seed twice, to erase proofs. This is my private opinion. Take care Noyer. Hope that they will pay you. All others, who stuck with deep reds just get fucked by Primedice administration. with no regards to prime. armada
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Hi Noyer. This casino is probably Bankrupt. That's why they start to play dirty, taking off last chance to recover looses by changing seeds, not paying big wins, verification shit procedures etc. Bitcoin Casinos should be based on Anonymity. Why should you send your private info ? They don't provide this private info from their side if someone deposit high ammount. I also get started with Prime since 2016, and there were no issues earlier, when BTC price was low. At present time - it is different casino, diferent Primedice, than before. Unfortunately. Just one Advise for Stunna / Edward  --- please remove lable Fairplay/Fairness ETC/// it is not about you. Nobody from your support can not verify my bets. That is why You change seed twice, to erase proofs. This is my private opinion. Take care Noyer. Hope that they will pay you. All others, who stuck with deep reds just get fucked by Primedice administration. with no regards to prime. armada


You probably couldn't be more incorrect.

Changing seeds does absolutely nothing. The way the seeds are hashed makes every bet still indepdeant of the prior. This is not true.

The reason some peoples withdraws are halted is because a small number of people probably are sending illegal BTC to promedice to mix it and then attempt to withdraw. Hence all large withdraws require manual approval.


This is basically for liability reasons .

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February 19, 2018, 10:23:16 PM
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Hi Noyer. This casino is probably Bankrupt. That's why they start to play dirty, taking off last chance to recover looses by changing seeds, not paying big wins, verification shit procedures etc. Bitcoin Casinos should be based on Anonymity. Why should you send your private info ? They don't provide this private info from their side if someone deposit high ammount. I also get started with Prime since 2016, and there were no issues earlier, when BTC price was low. At present time - it is different casino, diferent Primedice, than before. Unfortunately. Just one Advise for Stunna / Edward  --- please remove lable Fairplay/Fairness ETC/// it is not about you. Nobody from your support can not verify my bets. That is why You change seed twice, to erase proofs. This is my private opinion. Take care Noyer. Hope that they will pay you. All others, who stuck with deep reds just get fucked by Primedice administration. with no regards to prime. armada

Bolded part! Dont blame a gambling site if you are still on reds after all this time.You do know the risk involve on playing gambling then blaming would be pointless.All gambling sites do have its flaw and having lots of complaints which i do treat it as a normal thing. KYC is common if they do ask such thing then you dont have any choice but to follow but if you are just playing without any shady activity then theres no problem at all. Rest assured this casino had proven already about their fairness.They wont get such reputation if they do mess up with each roll.



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Hi Noyer. This casino is probably Bankrupt. That's why they start to play dirty, taking off last chance to recover looses by changing seeds, not paying big wins, verification shit procedures etc. Bitcoin Casinos should be based on Anonymity. Why should you send your private info ? They don't provide this private info from their side if someone deposit high ammount. I also get started with Prime since 2016, and there were no issues earlier, when BTC price was low. At present time - it is different casino, diferent Primedice, than before. Unfortunately. Just one Advise for Stunna / Edward  --- please remove lable Fairplay/Fairness ETC/// it is not about you. Nobody from your support can not verify my bets. That is why You change seed twice, to erase proofs. This is my private opinion. Take care Noyer. Hope that they will pay you. All others, who stuck with deep reds just get fucked by Primedice administration. with no regards to prime. armada


I don't think it is bankrupt. It's here for quite a long and probably the most profitable online gambling site. Huge withdrawals are subject to manual review in most of the gambling sites where mixing is the issue owners are concerned about. The bets are (still) provable for fairness.



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jbenjaminy is hunting for big multipliers and nailing it, betting small but winning big!
Check out his other bets:

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I've taken a look at this guy's stats on PD and his TOTAL PROFIT is Private so we can't know for sure whether he's in profit overall or not. But probably not, since his PROFIT ACHIEVEMENTS are lower than 0.1 BTC.

Those 0.00 and 99.99 are tricky bastards. I was hunting them a lot during my playing on PD and I succeeded several times in that. One day I hit 0.00 two times in a matter of couple of hours, but normally it takes much more than 10,000 bets to hit the desired number. But I think my overall profit from the hunting is positive. I've lost a lot because of the stupid martingale on 2x and that's why my TOTAL PROFIT on PD is -0.04519930 BTC. You should never do that 2x martingale, guys. It can eat all your balance even if you are safe to get 14 reds in a row.

How can you get profit through higher multiplier and losing with some low multiplier? Are you saying that you do not use any martingale strategy on such high multiplier? I think martingale with just 2x is pretty easy to get on profit yet you said you lose entire balance on martingale 2x

First of, it's not easy to get profit on martingale with just 2x. If it was easy I'd be a millionaire by now. ) There's no winning strategy and knowing that I just play at random and when I'm lucky I win. I never use martingale on 9900x and in fact I was always hitting the desired number before making 1000 bets. I even hit it after making only 24 bets once. I know that normally it takes much more than 10,000 bets from the chat, hui was posting about his hunting progress and other players too.

Compare to what you want to achieve by hitting 9900x, this is pretty easy though but of course it needs some time to complete and get profit. Most of them are only trying to hit it as long as they like, this is why make them losing really hard. Try to aim 0.01 each day must not be really hard, in a month you will get 0.3 btc and you do not really nees huge bankroll too to get 0.01
But to aim such a high multiplier you must adjust your balance, at least itnis enough for 10k bets, plus this is not a guarantee win but if you martingale on 2x and try to get 0.01 btc this is pretty easyI can't tell if you are even serious here

I can't tell if you are even serious here  because you sound like you know how to make money with gambling. Smiley 0.3 BTC per month is a huge profit many people dream of (me included) and you are saying that with martingale on 2x it's easy to get it. No, it's not. Did you read the reply by adaseb to your previous comment? And, what is more important, does this strategy work for you? Do you make 0.3 BTC / month by just playing dice aiming 0.01 each day with martingale on 2x?

I love to play dice, especially on PD since I have a lot of friends in the chat there, but I do it for entertainment purposes only. It's imposible to make money with gambling on a regular basis.

I do not have enough balance to start playing with btc so that I can't make that much but I played using eth and earn 0.4 eth a month which is 0.1 for each week. I am not guarantee you will get exactly the same thing as I do but i have been running this for 2 months and it seems that it is pretty safe to get it

It is not pure martingale of course because I combine with higher multiplier sometime, may be 3x or 4x. I do not know if this is work for everyone but for me yes it works

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We're releasing an update soon and will be requiring users to change their Seed pair at some point today or tomorrow. When you place a roll it will simply allow you to set new provably fair seeds. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause, it will just take a few seconds and you can get back to playing immediately. We'll be doing this once every 3 months.


We will be down for 20-30 minutes while we apply this update.


Congrats Stunna. You found another way to scam people. Seed Pairs were changed automaticaly during update without notify of users. And than, upon start up it force to change seed again before placing a bet. So it's twice in a row. And now NObody can verify their last bets. Nobody on Prime. And Support also. You did nt inform your users about it. My account stuck on deep red streak. I was saving some money to continue, but your system simply reseted seed. I would never Belive that 83 red is possible on chance 24. It happens once in 108 years, and not in 529 bets as it was on my account. I've lost money and time on your Prime. By the way, after your update it is not possible to play from api in manual mode. upon placing several bets it just hangs up. Due to that of that I've made alooote of WRONG bets trying to check it out.  Lost last drp of my trust. hope others will understand it soon. with no regards. armada.


Your previous seed pair is still accessible. Look at a previous Bet ID and compare it to the "previous seed" in your account. Your assumption is incorrect, players are only able to place bets with a new seed that they have set themselves, the one that is put in your account by default isn't one you can bet with, it's just placeholder which gets replaced by your current seed. I agree visually that is a bit confusing if you open the fairness tab but everything will work as intended and the previous seed should be your actual previous seed.

Also, I can just send you your previous seed if you don't have it for whatever reason. No reason we can't be civil about all this, no need to jump to conclusions. With regards to Noyer we've been in communication with him and should have his case wrapped up by tomorrow, I'm not going to post private details here.

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February 20, 2018, 02:46:38 AM
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Hi Noyer. This casino is probably Bankrupt. That's why they start to play dirty, taking off last chance to recover looses by changing seeds, not paying big wins, verification shit procedures etc. Bitcoin Casinos should be based on Anonymity. Why should you send your private info ? They don't provide this private info from their side if someone deposit high ammount. I also get started with Prime since 2016, and there were no issues earlier, when BTC price was low. At present time - it is different casino, diferent Primedice, than before. Unfortunately. Just one Advise for Stunna / Edward  --- please remove lable Fairplay/Fairness ETC/// it is not about you. Nobody from your support can not verify my bets. That is why You change seed twice, to erase proofs. This is my private opinion. Take care Noyer. Hope that they will pay you. All others, who stuck with deep reds just get fucked by Primedice administration. with no regards to prime. armada


In addition to the replies above, have you read the Section 6 of the TOS of Primedice? If not, here is what is written:
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Primedice reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Primedice reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.

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I'm a primedice patron. I have pulled many times 10btc back then. But this is the first time I have been taking 10btc for the first time, it is not coming back and no txid. Notice is withdrawn, I do not understand I do not cheat. Please help me account name: engvicky84
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I'm a primedice patron. I have pulled many times 10btc back then. But this is the first time I have been taking 10btc for the first time, it is not coming back and no txid. Notice is withdrawn, I do not understand I do not cheat. Please help me account name: engvicky84

This has already been sent! Congrats on the win Smiley

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February 20, 2018, 04:30:40 AM
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Hi Noyer. This casino is probably Bankrupt. That's why they start to play dirty, taking off last chance to recover looses by changing seeds, not paying big wins, verification shit procedures etc. Bitcoin Casinos should be based on Anonymity. Why should you send your private info ? They don't provide this private info from their side if someone deposit high ammount. I also get started with Prime since 2016, and there were no issues earlier, when BTC price was low. At present time - it is different casino, diferent Primedice, than before. Unfortunately. Just one Advise for Stunna / Edward  --- please remove lable Fairplay/Fairness ETC/// it is not about you. Nobody from your support can not verify my bets. That is why You change seed twice, to erase proofs. This is my private opinion. Take care Noyer. Hope that they will pay you. All others, who stuck with deep reds just get fucked by Primedice administration. with no regards to prime. armada


In addition to the replies above, have you read the Section 6 of the TOS of Primedice? If not, here is what is written:
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6. KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER (“KYC”)
Primedice reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Primedice reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.
This is likely to avoid paying out players who are suspected of cheating without any recourse if evidence of cheating is later found.

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