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March 29, 2014, 12:31:40 AM |
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last time i checked the client seed changes EVERY ROLL!!! ~unless you change it! =\
Yes it changes by 1 number up. spixel tell me again how u got server seed for the next bet that did not happen ?
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spixel
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March 29, 2014, 12:34:15 AM |
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last time i checked the client seed changes EVERY ROLL!!! ~unless you change it! =\
Yes it changes by 1 number up. spixel tell me again how u got server seed for the next bet that did not happen ? The server seed is taken from my next successful bet after the error. It you go on primedice and open the 'provably fair tab' look at your server seed. Now place a bet, you will see this is the seed of the bet you just placed when you check the bet id. Now look at the server seed again which will be different, refresh primedice and you'll see its the exact same until you place one more successful bet. Only the client seed changes on a refresh. So those seeds are 100% what would have happened with no error, and my bet would have been <80 like all the others.
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BBmodBB
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March 29, 2014, 12:40:20 AM |
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last time i checked the client seed changes EVERY ROLL!!! ~unless you change it! =\
Yes it changes by 1 number up. spixel tell me again how u got server seed for the next bet that did not happen ? the theory is (per mod/scammer nil) that if you go and change your client seed before EVERY ROLL this magically makes this site fair!...i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo
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MICRO
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March 29, 2014, 12:45:27 AM |
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last time i checked the client seed changes EVERY ROLL!!! ~unless you change it! =\
Yes it changes by 1 number up. spixel tell me again how u got server seed for the next bet that did not happen ? The server seed is taken from my next successful bet after the error. It you go on primedice and open the 'provably fair tab' look at your server seed. Now place a bet, you will see this is the seed of the bet you just placed when you check the bet id. Now look at the server seed again which will be different, refresh primedice and you'll see its the exact same until you place one more successful bet. Only the client seed changes on a refresh. So those seeds are 100% what would have happened with no error, and my bet would have been <80 like all the others. Umm... Sorry on autobet now , can't refresh, so u saying that client seed changes after refresh but not server seed ? But u did not done all in and lost on the next bet after refresh. U lost on 12th 13th bet after refresh, u changed ur betting coz of refresh, but u saying u was thinking all is exactly the same as before refresh or u woulda cashout. Doesn't make sense. Anyways we should not argue more about it. U got reply from Stunna, and u and me just can't agree on this , ever, so there is no point of arguing. Sorry for ur loss i lost almost whole wallet balance 0.4 btc, on that vanity scam i know how does it feel to lose everything but to be honest i would be much more happy if i lost it on pd .
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MICRO
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March 29, 2014, 12:47:00 AM |
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last time i checked the client seed changes EVERY ROLL!!! ~unless you change it! =\
Yes it changes by 1 number up. spixel tell me again how u got server seed for the next bet that did not happen ? the theory is (per mod/scammer nil) that if you go and change your client seed before EVERY ROLL this magically makes this site fair!...i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo Site is fair anyways, even if u don't change it. But when u change it before every bet, than u would not need to thrust its fair u would know 100% that it is fair.
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spixel
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March 29, 2014, 12:52:19 AM Last edit: March 29, 2014, 01:35:13 AM by spixel |
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Umm... Sorry on autobet now , can't refresh, so u saying that client seed changes after refresh but not server seed ? But u did not done all in and lost on the next bet after refresh. U lost on 12th 13th bet after refresh, u changed ur betting coz of refresh, but u saying u was thinking all is exactly the same as before refresh or u woulda cashout. Doesn't make sense. Anyways we should not argue more about it. U got reply from Stunna, and u and me just can't agree on this , ever, so there is no point of arguing. Sorry for ur loss i lost almost whole wallet balance 0.4 btc, on that vanity scam i know how does it feel to lose everything but to be honest i would be much more happy if i lost it on pd . Yes , server seed does not change until u place a bet. The seed u see is what will be used on your next bet. I didn't do all in on next bet after refresh because it disrupted my betting. It's hard to explain... when you're betting manual click click click.. and then an error happens, it stops what you're doing and thinking. I did 50% to get back the loss of the last 80% loss and then back to 80%. This would not have happened with no error. I'd almost certainly have gone all in, like I did a few bets later..only I would have won and not lost. Instead of over 1.1btc balance with no error, I went to 0. I'd prefer to have my btc taken by a stranger than lose on PD like this I still think I deserve a decent refund on my deposit because of this, the error is not the only thing. It's also not being told my client seed was changed afterwards, because there's no way I would have continued betting if I knew this. It is all just a series of unfortunate events that I wish Stunna could see from my point of view and offer a reasonable and fair solution for both of us. I'd be happy with 50%, that way none of us comes out in such a bad way, since we have different opinions and all.
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BBmodBB
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March 29, 2014, 12:52:43 AM |
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last time i checked the client seed changes EVERY ROLL!!! ~unless you change it! =\
Yes it changes by 1 number up. spixel tell me again how u got server seed for the next bet that did not happen ? the theory is (per mod/scammer nil) that if you go and change your client seed before EVERY ROLL this magically makes this site fair!...i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo Site is fair anyways, even if u don't change it. But when u change it before every bet, than u would not need to thrust its fair u would know 100% that it is fair. it depends on how they generate it to account for the % ! ,,,over time i've accepted the "dominant seed" theory! ;-) *fair? lol i want some of what you are smoking!
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dankkk
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March 29, 2014, 01:46:39 AM |
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Can I have 1 btc for no reason at all?
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Stunna (OP)
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March 29, 2014, 02:07:14 AM |
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i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo
There's some sort of misconception that we're against software/personal scripts. This is not true, as long as you aren't doing something that is putting significant stress on our site we're fine with it .
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dankkk
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March 29, 2014, 02:11:40 AM |
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i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo
There's some sort of misconception that we're against software/personal scripts. This is not true, as long as you aren't doing something that is putting significant stress on our site we're fine with it . Are bots that speed up the bets allowed?
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March 29, 2014, 02:13:09 AM |
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i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo
There's some sort of misconception that we're against software/personal scripts. This is not true, as long as you aren't doing something that is putting significant stress on our site we're fine with it . Are bots that speed up the bets allowed? Yep. UNLESS its like a million bets a second. (I think PD limits you anyways).
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March 29, 2014, 02:21:08 AM |
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i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo
There's some sort of misconception that we're against software/personal scripts. This is not true, as long as you aren't doing something that is putting significant stress on our site we're fine with it . i'm sorry that's what your employee/mod "nil" informed me that any such program that would change the client seed auto-manually before each bet would be considered a form of cheating or hacking and not allowed by you ! =\
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March 29, 2014, 02:25:22 AM Last edit: March 29, 2014, 03:19:14 AM by spixel |
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i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo
There's some sort of misconception that we're against software/personal scripts. This is not true, as long as you aren't doing something that is putting significant stress on our site we're fine with it . So is there no way you are going to change your mind about this? I don't want to be wasting my time expecting a response if there's not going to be one. At least I have put my opinions out there I guess. I'm really upset at this outcome though and I know for a fact my betting would not have ended the same with no error happening or if I knew my seed was changed. It's a very harsh way for me to lose all my btc, I just wish you could show a bit more compassion and understand. I deposited a lot, and left with nothing because of an error. Whether you want to believe this or not, I know its the truth. Anyway I love all you guys who made primedice so fun for me I could not stand returning though after this as I don't like this feeling of it being me against the world. I know what happened, and how it affected the outcome (say oh of course your gonna say that cause you lost!) all you want, but I really don't think anyone truly believes/cares how shitty I feel over this. The amount of btc I lost is only 1 part of what matters to me, I expected more support from a place which seemed so friendly. Stunna, if you change your mind you know my pd account hehe Some shoutouts, forgive me if I missed you..this is just a short list Hui for being the quizmaster Micro for funding the quiz wallet Pokerjet for always appearing at the right time to mute people Pthmnj for being a beggar Stunna for creating pd + introducing me to flappybirds Hoe for having 30 accounts Dankkk for failing on join.me repeatedly and getting scammed on a daily basis Globalfiasco for being awesome Nahtnam for being underage Later everyone
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alabamafan1
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March 29, 2014, 02:29:23 AM |
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i proposed someone write software to do this which i was told is a no no ;-) lmfaoooo
There's some sort of misconception that we're against software/personal scripts. This is not true, as long as you aren't doing something that is putting significant stress on our site we're fine with it . So is there no way you are going to change your mind about this? I don't want to be wasting my time expecting a response if there's not going to be one. At least I have put my opinions out there I guess. I'm really upset at this outcome though and I know for a fact my betting would not have ended the same with no error happening or if I knew my seed was changed. It's a very harsh way for me to lose all my btc, I just wish you could show a bit more compassion and understand. I deposited a lot, and left with nothing because of an error. Whether you want to believe this or not, I know its the truth. Anyway I love all you guys who made primedice so fun for me I could not stand returning though after this as I don't like this feeling of it being me against the world. I know what happened, and how it affected the outcome (say oh of course your gonna say that cause you lost!) all you want, but I really don't think anyone truly believes/cares how shitty I feel over this. The amount of btc I lost is only 1 part of what matters to me, I expected more support from a place which seemed so friendly. Later everyone LOL at you thinking your betting would have FOR SURE ended differently or you would've ended up a winner. That 12th roll has a 20% chance of losing just like any other roll. Jesus christ, he has ignored you for days, take a hint. You are getting nothing back like I told you from day 1.
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spixel
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March 29, 2014, 02:32:01 AM |
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LOL at you thinking your betting would have FOR SURE ended differently or you would've ended up a winner. That 12th roll has a 20% chance of losing just like any other roll. Jesus christ, he has ignored you for days, take a hint. You are getting nothing back like I told you from day 1.
You are a grade A douchebag. I don't even think you know whats going on, just want to post shit. He hasn't ignored me for days, pm's are a wonderful thing. I know for a fact I'd have won my next bet had the error not happened, please read above where I post the seeds. I also know for a fact I'd have cashed out if I was told my seed had been changed. I wouldn't have placed the bets I did otherwise.. so yes the outcome would have been different with no error.
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Rulishix
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March 29, 2014, 03:36:38 AM |
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12 bets. You are unreal expecting a refund after 12 bets. Get over it! You lost! You gambled what you couldn't afford to lose so now you're crying about it. I've done that countless times and I just ask for a bonus or something for being a loyal player.
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dankkk
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March 29, 2014, 04:52:34 AM |
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RGBKey
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March 29, 2014, 04:55:28 AM |
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Not really. People please, this is not a thread to whine about your bad luck and ask for refunds. That's not how gambling works. You wagered the money, and you lost. That was the risk that you took by gambling. If you want to whine about it, do so with yourself, not everybody else that doesn't care about your personal problems.
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dankkk
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March 29, 2014, 05:00:48 AM |
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Not really. People please, this is not a thread to whine about your bad luck and ask for refunds. That's not how gambling works. You wagered the money, and you lost. That was the risk that you took by gambling. If you want to whine about it, do so with yourself, not everybody else that doesn't care about your personal problems. 1. Im not whinning. 2. I never asked for a refund. 3. I dont care in the slightest that I lost it because it was a faucet run anyways. Sooo
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March 29, 2014, 05:07:23 AM |
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Not really. People please, this is not a thread to whine about your bad luck and ask for refunds. That's not how gambling works. You wagered the money, and you lost. That was the risk that you took by gambling. If you want to whine about it, do so with yourself, not everybody else that doesn't care about your personal problems. what is this thread for? --> to promote a slanted dice game? : yes =)
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