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Author Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot!  (Read 1996495 times)
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August 18, 2014, 04:22:12 AM
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not playing until this roll lag is fixed, PD2 all over again  Roll Eyes

I haven't seen any issues with roll speed, anyone else experiencing this?
I am experiencing roll lag, and many others have voiced this as well.

Roughly 2/3rd of my rolls are nearly instantaneous, the other 1/3rd hangs up for at least 10 seconds.

My guess is that the bots are taking up more than their fair share of rolls. I hope you're able to leave room for actual human players like myself.
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August 18, 2014, 04:26:01 AM
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not playing until this roll lag is fixed, PD2 all over again  Roll Eyes

I haven't seen any issues with roll speed, anyone else experiencing this?

Yes, it's been lagging most of the day for me.  I've been hopping between Chrome (main browser) and Firefox, depending on which is working the best at the moment. 

For some reason Chrome decided to go belly up on refreshing chat & bets early yesterday.  Now today the bet lag has been less than ideal on both Chrome & Firefox.  Plenty of others mentioning the same symptoms in chat also.

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August 18, 2014, 04:32:48 AM
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not playing until this roll lag is fixed, PD2 all over again  Roll Eyes

I haven't seen any issues with roll speed, anyone else experiencing this?

I, also have been getting some bad roll lag. Refreshing doesn't always work even then, as sometimes I want to keep my seed.

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August 18, 2014, 04:34:22 AM
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Not trying to doubt PD but it's suspicious when it lags, then loses. It's almost as if the system is thinking about the roll...
I don't think the PD3 system can think about the rolls... this would have been a valid suspicion with PD2's variable server seed... but not PD3.

For PD3, if you have accepted the secret server seed, and entered your own seed in, all of your subsequent future rolls are pre-determined by hashed concatenations of both seeds plus sequential nonces. It is provably fair in this sense.
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August 18, 2014, 04:37:12 AM
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Stunna, chat doesn't work for me either. Chat doesn't update, I have to refresh to see new posts. Level doesn't update, all what works is rolls.

Using latest version of Chrome.

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August 18, 2014, 05:10:50 AM
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Oh i thought im the only one experiencing a roll delay lol. Stunna can you check on that please
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August 18, 2014, 05:23:37 AM
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not playing until this roll lag is fixed, PD2 all over again  Roll Eyes

I haven't seen any issues with roll speed, anyone else experiencing this?

I, also have been getting some bad roll lag. Refreshing doesn't always work even then, as sometimes I want to keep my seed.

Working on fixing these issues now, sorry for any inconvenience in the meantime.

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August 18, 2014, 05:25:27 AM
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Not trying to doubt PD but it's suspicious when it lags, then loses. It's almost as if the system is thinking about the roll...
I don't think the system can think about the rolls. If you have accepted the secret server seed, and entered your own seed in, all of your future rolls are pre-determined by a hashed concatenation of both seeds plus a sequential nonce. It is provably fair in this sense.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=311404.0
You linked me something from 2013 without showing any understanding of actual application to our topic at hand.

Once again, the actual method that PD3 uses is deterministic from the get-go. You can verify mathematically that PD3's rolls and future rolls are pre-determined.

Let's walk through the math with PD2 first. The roll values in PD2 is derived from four different components:

1. Secret Server Seed that changes every 24 hours
2. Server Seed that changes before every roll
3. Your Seed
4. Incremental Nonce

So the series of PD2 rolls will look like this:

HASH(Secret Server Seed, Server Seed, Your Seed, Nonce)
HASH(ABDCE, SDJSD, VWXYZ, 01)
HASH(ABDCE, PXMSR, VWXYZ, 02)
HASH(ABDCE, ORIMD, VWXYZ, 03)
HASH(ABDCE, BNDKZ, VWXYZ, 04)

The problem with PD2's method is that while it's verifiably fair, it's variable server seed makes it open to accusation of meta-analyzing betting fingerprints and using that to gain additional advantage against the player. This is easily negated by changing YOUR SEED every round... but 99% of gamblers don't do that.

Now PD3's hashing method is much more straightforward. The Roll values in PD3 is derived from only three different components:

1. Server Seed
2. Your Seed
3. Incremental Nonce

So the series of PD3 rolls will look like this:

HASH(Server Seed, Client Seed, Nonce)
HASH(ABDCE, VWXYZ, 01)
HASH(ABDCE, VWXYZ, 02)
HASH(ABDCE, VWXYZ, 03)
HASH(ABDCE, VWXYZ, 04)

To make sure they're not pulling your leg, a SHA256 hash of the server seed is given to you, and the server seed can be retroactively revealed as early as after the roll. With the example above, you can verify that the system is pre-deterministic and cannot cheat.
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August 18, 2014, 05:27:15 AM
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Stunna, chat doesn't work for me either. Chat doesn't update, I have to refresh to see new posts. Level doesn't update, all what works is rolls.

Using latest version of Chrome.

I had the same problem. Chat would update until I tried typing in it and then it would stop.

If I refreshed, I would see that my line had been posted.

Using Firefox instead of Chrome fixed the problem for me.

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August 18, 2014, 05:36:44 AM
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Clearing my Chrome cache does not solve the chat update problem for me.
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August 18, 2014, 05:42:15 AM
Last edit: August 18, 2014, 06:31:25 AM by Stunna
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Uploading some fixes, be back very soon.


edit: please try now and let me know if lag persists

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August 18, 2014, 06:19:33 AM
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ugh experiencing some lag and dice delays tftftftft
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August 18, 2014, 06:25:10 AM
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Stunna, chat doesn't work for me either. Chat doesn't update, I have to refresh to see new posts. Level doesn't update, all what works is rolls.

Using latest version of Chrome.

I had the same problem. Chat would update until I tried typing in it and then it would stop.

If I refreshed, I would see that my line had been posted.

Using Firefox instead of Chrome fixed the problem for me.

I've been experiencing the same issues but the other way around. Firefox chat locks up on me and Chrome works fine. I think it's when I used the automated betting option it happens mostly.
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August 18, 2014, 07:01:46 AM
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I can play without problem on Chrome, but I can't load the site on Firefox.
It gives me a warning "Firefox has blocked content that isn't secure".

It is not really a big problem though as I can just use Chrome. Smiley

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August 18, 2014, 07:27:15 AM
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Uploading some fixes, be back very soon.


edit: please try now and let me know if lag persists
Roll lag has subsided for me, the chat update issue, however, still remains.
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August 18, 2014, 10:50:53 AM
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August 18, 2014, 11:32:37 AM
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Now that's what im talking about !!! Cheesy


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also put pictures of your refs so we can see how much they earned personaly for you Wink

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August 18, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
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daaammmnnn, thats alot from only 11 refs grats on that
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August 18, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
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lol i got 32 refs and got

only 21k from them its really sad Sad

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August 18, 2014, 12:12:45 PM
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How are you guys getting some many refs when we weren't allowed to use out sigs here? Are we allowed to use them now?

Also, I can't get on PD. Just the blue background screen and nothing loads past it.

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