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May 21, 2013, 02:33:19 AM |
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This is truly interesting, will this be kept up to date?
Daily  Subscribed, thanks. |
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steamboat
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May 21, 2013, 04:18:01 AM |
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This is truly interesting, will this be kept up to date?
Daily Thanks, I have been looking for other FPGA systems. -edit: I can't find Mhash/s on the enterpoint site. Do you suggest another thread to decrease tension, or because you feel it would be a more valid metric? I realize they are quite different systems, but if you're pricing the ASICs that are actually available right now, they do seem comparable. If the list were to be split would it make more sense to split to 'shipping product' vs 'not shipping product'? I do like the idea of having everything in one spot, easy access. *disclaimer: This post is not an endorsement of any of the companies mentioned.
Added. where is ASICMINER blade?
I'll change Bitfountain to ASICMiner to reduce confusion. So has the BitFountain's Blockerupter really been shipped yet?
I thought I saw people saying they received, but I can't find that now. I'm going to move it back over to 'no' but if anyone can clarify this, I would love to know. The CM1s get ~850-880 depending on how good the board is. This does require flashing the boards from stock to glasswalkers hashvoodoo firmware. I suggested the split because FPGAs are more power hungry than ASICs. Not necessarily another thread, and even throwing up mh/w would suffice. |
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May 21, 2013, 06:44:22 AM |
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 I would love to but after staying up 2 hours later than I wanted all I could find was this.. I thought maybe I had missed a few, but there are very few people with obvious stats on this. BFL site says they aren't currently releasing data on power consumption. Uh... a couple days before product is supposed to be in consumer hands? |
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NR3000
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May 21, 2013, 06:59:40 AM |
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Cairnsmore1 price is wrong. The price is £600.
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forevernoob
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May 21, 2013, 08:25:21 AM |
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Any chance we can get read only access to that spreadsheet?
I 2nd this. Maybe you could put it up on Google docs or something? |
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May 21, 2013, 10:10:24 AM |
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I think this list encourages fraud.
There are only two companies in your list that have actually shipped:
BlackArrow and BitFountain.
The others:
KNCMiner - science fiction story, they have not shipped anything they do not even have pictures of their products.
t13hydra, terrahash, ryepdx, burnin - rely on avalon ASICs which have not yet been produced.
Butterfly labs - have taken orders of millions of dollars, have not shipped in 1 year, most likely a fraud.
Our company has tried to purchase 30000 IC from Avalon. The law in China is to sign a contract to purchase the merchandise. We asked them for this and they gave us a bogus address in Beijing and confessed that they do not have a company. For this reason I would be very careful regarding the Avalon ASICs.
You're right, BlackArrow. I'm also concerned of Avalon chips actually shipping or not. I guess wi will find out soon enough. On the other hand, why don't you provide ASICs? I have found a book dated baxk to 2002 on how ro build ASICs for SHA-256 for security applications. If i would have a good supplier for the chips, i would shurely not provide group buy for some phantom chips tgat are not even in production yet. I know TSMC will provide them, but will Avalon forward them to us? Or at least order them... Let's do something here. What would it take to ahve asics? 6-7 months? What does it taje to build LTC asics? FPGA and a piece of DDR3 memory? Let's do it. Thank you, FCTaiChi for the list. At least i know where i stand. I will also be providing lead time as soon as i have the Klondike final design and some money arrangements with the factory. Regards, Steve Hmmm, its concerning esp with fact that they have an contract with TMSC. Maybe some other intermediatte compnay actaly have a contract with tmsc? Who knows.... |
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May 21, 2013, 01:33:49 PM |
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I would love to but after staying up 2 hours later than I wanted all I could find was this.. I thought maybe I had missed a few, but there are very few people with obvious stats on this. BFL site says they aren't currently releasing data on power consumption. Uh... a couple days before product is supposed to be in consumer hands? Well, think of it this way: one avalon chip consumes 2.05 watts. Multiply this by 16 chips on one Klondike board: 32.8W Add a few watts for general board consumption: 10W Total consumption for one Klondike16 miner at full speed: 42.8W Total hashpower of one Klondike16, minus 5%: 4286 MH/s Calculated MH/s/W: [wow, i just realized how round the numbers came out]: 100.1 |
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May 21, 2013, 01:58:40 PM |
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Kncminers jupiter is 350 GH/s after the update May 11 2013.
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FCTaiChi (OP)
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May 21, 2013, 03:39:33 PM |
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Any chance we can get read only access to that spreadsheet?
I 2nd this. Maybe you could put it up on Google docs or something? I don't see any reason why not, I'll look into that. Well, think of it this way: one avalon chip consumes 2.05 watts. Multiply this by 16 chips on one Klondike board: 32.8W
Add a few watts for general board consumption: 10W
Total consumption for one Klondike16 miner at full speed: 42.8W
Total hashpower of one Klondike16, minus 5%: 4286 MH/s
Calculated MH/s/W: [wow, i just realized how round the numbers came out]: 100.1
I haven't done the calculations on each unit, as I really don't have the information, but I was thinking the same thing. For now I'll just put what I have up. |
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blackarrow
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May 21, 2013, 05:07:25 PM |
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Correction: Our lead time is not August. Orders placed today we'll ship at the end of June.
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FCTaiChi (OP)
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May 21, 2013, 06:24:28 PM |
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Correction: Our lead time is not August. Orders placed today we'll ship at the end of June.
Thanks! |
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FCTaiChi (OP)
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May 22, 2013, 05:14:56 PM |
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Well, think of it this way: one avalon chip consumes 2.05 watts. Multiply this by 16 chips on one Klondike board: 32.8W
Add a few watts for general board consumption: 10W
Total consumption for one Klondike16 miner at full speed: 42.8W
Total hashpower of one Klondike16, minus 5%: 4286 MH/s
Calculated MH/s/W: [wow, i just realized how round the numbers came out]: 100.1
As soon as I can figure this out I'll start posting the roi. Just trying to make it fair for scaling up, the "Add a few watts" part is ending up being hard to pin down, but I think the estimate will still be close. Cairnsmore1 price is wrong. The price is £600.
Great, thanks. Was that an old price? |
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forevernoob
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May 22, 2013, 08:23:29 PM |
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Hey, could you add links to the miners respective threads?
I saw that you added links in the spreadsheet. But would nice to have them in this thread also.
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FCTaiChi (OP)
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May 22, 2013, 08:38:36 PM
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Hey, could you add links to the miners respective threads?
I saw that you added links in the spreadsheet. But would nice to have them in this thread also.
They're under the chart. To save space I made everyone's name a link to their page. I changed the thread name so people will look for them. |
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blackarrow
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May 23, 2013, 03:27:17 AM |
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Correction:
Carinsmore1 GH/$ is lower: 0.113
600gbp = 900usd
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May 23, 2013, 08:03:16 AM |
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Am I too optmistic too think that difficulty will not rise as dramatically as in the past? Sure it spikes in the beginning, but it will be a long time until they can ramp up to production at the same pace as GPUs or CPUs. I don't really think it is comparable to the boost it got when switching to GPUs, since those were already established technologies used for a much broader market.
One can onky hope, I suppose.
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May 23, 2013, 10:50:33 AM |
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How is your ROI actually calculated? |
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May 23, 2013, 10:56:34 AM |
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there are still only usb asicminer block erupters in the table, not the big ones, which do 12-13 GH/s with power consumption of 120W and price 49.99 BTC
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dan99
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May 23, 2013, 12:03:33 PM |
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Kncminer is Sept not Oct.. delivery , you should consider all in $ or btc... not some btc and others in $
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forevernoob
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May 23, 2013, 02:23:22 PM |
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Have been looking through the list but can't really make up my mind which miner to get with my budget. (Maximum 500$)
I don't want anything too complicated, don't get me wrong I have nothing against DIY.
But if you buy something for 500 bucks it better work out of the box you know.
The only options that I really like smell scams. The Terrahash 4.5GH/s & BFL's Bitforce 5.
So I was just wondering what are you guys are getting? Trouble is that the longer you wait before purchasing the more you will loose because of the difficulty increasing.
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