Bitcams

[TheVirus]

A membership management script capable of taking bitcoin costing $1000 plush an adult designer which costs $3000 to $4000? and custom CMS? why does it have to be custom if your going to pay THAT much just do it from scratch... and if your paying $1000 for a web design your getting over charged. I've never in my life have seen a $1000 web site design in my entire 10 years of porn viewing experiences they are all cookie cutter HTML+css with some gradients which take 2 seconds to make.
I was able to integrate bitcoins into my redistributable software in a day... A DAY!! why does it cost this much for porn??
Who are is your programming team so I know who not to get ripped off from... get a life

and can easily be integrated to our current working concept.

Sure, let us all know how that works out for you.

To anyone actually considering and capable of undertaking this project, I'd offer the following.

A membership site requires an adult designer (3-4k) and a custom CMS (2-4k), a membership management script capable of taking Bitcoin (1k if hardened). It makes no sense to offer shares (recurring income) for a one time expense.

If you build a site, it will then be on the radar of the large players- that's where they look. They think it terms of competing websites- not competing apps. So you've just substantially shortened your lead by announcing that your business model will work on their websites just fine. So their coders will get cracking. This website won't get any traffic without an affiliate program, that cuts into profits and requires a large advertising budget to get the word out to potential affiliates (1k month).

This is one of the problems with businesses started with outside capital- it's easy to spend other peoples money. If it was their own money the developers would come up with something simple and clever, if they have funding- lets have a money fight. If they don't get sacks of money, they claim they can't start anything because no one will fund them.

A simple App website advertising it's functionality (if you use the same UI designer as the app it saves money), and providing a Market link is sufficient. Ideally it's creation would be paid for by income generated from just the initial Android app. Done properly it requires more skill and planning than it does capital. The other guys always have more capital so it's a lousy tool to try and compete with.

All you need is a mobile app programmer, a lawyer and probably a UI designer- the latter two are a one time expense. There's really no need management or any additional staff beyond a single developer/owner. No one else is needed and they will just cannibalize profits and hurt growth. There is no reason this can't be bootstrapped by a single developer. The other skills required are modest, one time expenses.

Because watching porn and making porn are interchangeable. How can cars cost $150,000? They are all cookie-cutter chassis with different paint jobs and some basic mechanics. How can games cost $100,000,000 to make? They are just the same rendering engine and some minor art changes.

ITT: Ignorance is bliss.

[FlipPro]

I shall laugh when people send Vegetta money and never hear from him again.

Lol that's why I made everything about myself completely public. Anyone who has done enough research on me can easily find me on FACEBOOK, and TWITTER, and from there can easily hire a private investigator to come find me. It's not that hard to find someone, even YOU, yes you, everyone leaves a trail online, and to have the intent to scam is a really moronic one, especially when I have such a good opportunity to make serious money in the long run with this project.

EDIT: Do you realize how bad and wrong all you trolls are going to look once the site is completely said and done? Have you thought about that? Or you just have an indispensable account that you will change when everyone sees the true trolling nature of this thread. People will only see it once the site is done, and making some serious money, I am done replying to you to, stay the hell away from my thread.    Clown.

[TheVirus]

I shall laugh when people send Vegetta money and never hear from him again.

Lol that why I made everything about myself completely public. Anyone who has done enough research on me can easily find me on FACEBOOK, and TWITTER, and from there can easily hire a private investigator to come find me. It's not that hard to find someone, even YOU, yes you, everyone leaves a trail online, and to have the intent to scam is a really moronic one, especially when I have such a good opportunity to make money in the long term with this project.

It's not difficult to cut all ties and run if there was serious money involved. Also, I can create a fake Facebook account with hundred of 'friends' and a bullshit twitter account. People that trust online personas are asking to be taken advantage of.

[FlipPro]

I shall laugh when people send Vegetta money and never hear from him again.

Lol that why I made everything about myself completely public. Anyone who has done enough research on me can easily find me on FACEBOOK, and TWITTER, and from there can easily hire a private investigator to come find me. It's not that hard to find someone, even YOU, yes you, everyone leaves a trail online, and to have the intent to scam is a really moronic one, especially when I have such a good opportunity to make money in the long term with this project.

It's not difficult to cut all ties and run if there was serious money involved. Also, I can create a fake Facebook account with hundred of 'friends' and a bullshit twitter account. People that trust online personas are asking to be taken advantage of.

Well I am signing contracts with all my team members, I am fed-exing them all contracts that will be pre-approved by everyone on the team. I am going to be equally as transparent with the public share holders. You're a complete tool, and you deserve to be silenced, simply because your ignorant, and spread disinformation that hurts the community.

Go away..

EDIT: Hey clown, check your BTC account, I just donated 0.10BTC just so you stop trolling all my threads and hopefully anyone Else's threads who are serious about this medium of exchange. Obviously you are not serious about pushing it's future, so maybe I can at-least pay for your silence, since you have absolutely nothing useful to contribute other than baseless attacks. It's sad that you have to pay trolls to shut up, but it's that serious.

Please stay the hell away.

[elk-tamer]

Veg, 

 Think of all the motivation you're getting from wanting to prove the doubters wrong. You should be welcoming those you see as trolls, and seeing the criticism for what it is: the wind beneath your wings.

 Have you considered using bitcoin transactions to enforce your contracts? If you did the rest of us could short your business, and then everyone will be happy.

FWIW, I always thought facebook was a bad idea and still don't think it's going to catch on.

[lemonginger]

Well this is the best thread I've read in like a week.

I do give Jesse credit for bothering to give you any advice after your response to her first post. I too, am excited to see the progress in this area.

Also, you forgot a share for legal counsel. You aren't going to try to run a business without a lawyer are you?

You shouldn't be running a web design business without a lawyer

http://vimeo.com/22053820?utm_source=swissmiss

much less a cam site

[FlipPro]

Well this is the best thread I've read in like a week.

I do give Jesse credit for bothering to give you any advice after your response to her first post. I too, am excited to see the progress in this area.

Also, you forgot a share for legal counsel. You aren't going to try to run a business without a lawyer are you?

You shouldn't be running a web design business without a lawyer

http://vimeo.com/22053820?utm_source=swissmiss

much less a cam site

Yes we will be paying a BTC lawyer, Adult ENT Lawyer, and regular counsel to make sure we are in compliance with all American laws in regards to a webcam sex site. Which will probably mean some type of third-party international verification for all performers. People who can't be verified can't work. Customers will always be anonymous.

[cunicula]

Consider offering a pledge feature (this is a kind of assurance contract).

Customer deposits X BTC on site. Customer puts several X BTC pledges towards models he would like to see perform.  Pledges not fulfilled within 30 minutes are cancelled and the BTC are returned to the customers account.
 
Model offers performance for a minimum nX BTC, with minimum pledge of X. Let the models pick n, but not X [or maybe restrict choice of X to a few numbers]. If model receives n pledges, then a show begins for the pledging customers. As soon as the show begins, pledging customers other outstanding pledges are cancelled. Customers can join a show in progress by adding another increment X to the pot.

[FlipPro]

Consider offering a pledge feature (this is a kind of assurance contract).

Customer deposits X BTC on site. Customer puts several X BTC pledges towards models he would like to see perform.  Pledges not fulfilled within 30 minutes are cancelled and the BTC are returned to the customers account.
 
Model offers performance for a minimum nX BTC, with minimum pledge of X. Let the models pick n, but not X [or maybe restrict choice of X to a few numbers]. If model receives n pledges, then a show begins for the pledging customers. As soon as the show begins, pledging customers other outstanding pledges are cancelled. Customers can join a show in progress by adding another increment X to the pot.

This sounds complicated. Are you talking about sorta like a bidding system for models? I really don't think they would like that lol. But it would be interesting, correct me if I am wrong but that's basically what you mean right?

[cunicula]

It is just a system which allows models to sell group shows to customers rather than individual shows.

Maybe someone else can help explain what I mean?  I appear to be having trouble here.

[FlipPro]

It is just a system which allows models to sell group shows to customers rather than individual shows.

Maybe someone else can help explain what I mean?  I appear to be having trouble here.

Ohh so basically it's a group view? That is a good IDEA and is something that I was planning on integrating. Now, do you basically want it to be where people bid for tips? Or how exactly do you want to structure this.

[cunicula]

Maybe this will help:

I deposit 0.5 BTC on the site. I select 20 (currently idle) models that I would pay 0.5 BTC to see perform. Once ten customers like me have put a 0.5 BTC deposit on the same individual model, the model does a group performance which only these paying customers can view. The ten customers pay out 0.5 BTC * 10 for a total of 5 BTC going to the model/middleman. The customers' 'bids' on other models are withdrawn. Bids/pledges/(whatever you want to call them) should be standardized (e.g. all set to 0.5 BTC) for this system to work well.

Since I don't want to risk losing my 0.5 BTC without getting a show, the 0.5 BTC are returned to me once I have waited for 30 minutes and no show has happened.

[FlipPro]

Maybe this will help:

I deposit 0.5 BTC on the site. I select 20 (currently idle) models that I would pay 0.5 BTC to see perform. Once ten customers like me have put a 0.5 BTC deposit on the same individual model, the model does a group performance which only these paying customers can view. The ten customers pay out 0.5 BTC * 10 for a total of 5 BTC going to the model/middleman. The customers' 'bids' on other models are withdrawn. Bids/pledges/(whatever you want to call them) should be standardized (e.g. all set to 0.5 BTC) for this system to work well.

Since I don't want to risk losing my 0.5 BTC without getting a show, the 0.5 BTC are returned to me once I have waited for 30 minutes and no show has happened.

Niceee really nice. But can't we just do this right from within the chat? I think that would be even more exciting, all the guys root Mr. Big Bucks on to tip the model so she shows more.

[cunicula]

Maybe this will help:

I deposit 0.5 BTC on the site. I select 20 (currently idle) models that I would pay 0.5 BTC to see perform. Once ten customers like me have put a 0.5 BTC deposit on the same individual model, the model does a group performance which only these paying customers can view. The ten customers pay out 0.5 BTC * 10 for a total of 5 BTC going to the model/middleman. The customers' 'bids' on other models are withdrawn. Bids/pledges/(whatever you want to call them) should be standardized (e.g. all set to 0.5 BTC) for this system to work well.

Since I don't want to risk losing my 0.5 BTC without getting a show, the 0.5 BTC are returned to me once I have waited for 30 minutes and no show has happened.

Niceee really nice. But can't we just do this right from within the chat? I think that would be even more exciting, all the guys root Mr. Big Bucks on to tip the model so she shows more.

The environment you are talking about is sort of like an online strip club with tips. Many people (maybe the majority) like that environment. For me, egging on Mr. Big Bucks is a turn-off. Why not offer both types of services? If you offer services people haven't seen before, it could give your site a unique appeal.

[Elokane]

Is anyone else getting a "The site's security certificate is not trusted!" from GLBSE, using Chrome?

[Xenland]

Is anyone else getting a "The site's security certificate is not trusted!" from GLBSE, using Chrome?

Not that this is on-topic or anything, but yeah its self-signed.

[FlipPro]

Maybe this will help:

I deposit 0.5 BTC on the site. I select 20 (currently idle) models that I would pay 0.5 BTC to see perform. Once ten customers like me have put a 0.5 BTC deposit on the same individual model, the model does a group performance which only these paying customers can view. The ten customers pay out 0.5 BTC * 10 for a total of 5 BTC going to the model/middleman. The customers' 'bids' on other models are withdrawn. Bids/pledges/(whatever you want to call them) should be standardized (e.g. all set to 0.5 BTC) for this system to work well.

Since I don't want to risk losing my 0.5 BTC without getting a show, the 0.5 BTC are returned to me once I have waited for 30 minutes and no show has happened.

Niceee really nice. But can't we just do this right from within the chat? I think that would be even more exciting, all the guys root Mr. Big Bucks on to tip the model so she shows more.

The environment you are talking about is sort of like an online strip club with tips. Many people (maybe the majority) like that environment. For me, egging on Mr. Big Bucks is a turn-off. Why not offer both types of services? If you offer services people haven't seen before, it could give your site a unique appeal.

I think we will have both, I have to talk to the team first but I don't see why you're idea isn't doable. We want to make the coolest experience for users/models to interact in ways they never thought imaginable. If you have a killer idea and you don't want to share with the public (if its good enough) I am willing to give you a share. Our goal is perfection. We are in the final stages of choosing a designer. I must admit that we are behind on schedule because of the recent hacking of TweetForum . My team is donating their time to help me recover/secure what has been destroyed by the pettiness of a few clowns. However, not to worry, TweetForum will be back with even MORE features, and better design, and all the content/posts will be right back. We haven't lost ANYTHING in this hacking, just time..

EDIT:The team will be announced to the public as soon as we have a designer, tweetforum is back up, and we are public on https://glbse.com/.

[Dansker]

Why don't you advertise for a desinger here: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?board=52.0 ?

[markm]

Wyldesites is still around eh, cool.

I bought my country house with adult site revenue, Adult Knotwork was just the tip of the iceberg, I created hundreds of thousands of adult sites, it is amazing how many sites a script can concoct out of a few thousand folders of image-sets.

By the turn of the millenium though Excite had been bought by the adult industry and turned into Overture, millions of dollars more a year budgetted for buying up any other search engines that were for sale, and pay per click was well on its way to being adopted even by mainstream giants like Google.

Jessy, the decade you mention was after the dot com crash, traffic was less and less free, I made my bundle when traffic was free and easy. Nowadays MSN and Yahoo no longer think the best content they have ever seen is their own results.

Is traffic king and content queen or traffic queen and content king? For me it was all about traffic, any crap could make money back in the day if you threw enough (unique) hits per hour at it.

I have been perusing this entire thread, so far the original poster said (in effect at least) that he will bring the traffic, then later oops he seems to be suggesting it is actually everyone else who will be doing that, but with his expert supervision of course.

The twitter forum happens to be coming soon currently, so I have not had that awesome site to look at to impress me.

Okay, read to the end now. Still confused as to who is going to bring the traffic, how much traffic they are going to bring, and where from.

I haven't followed twitter, does creating a few hundred thousand adult-oriented twitter accounts/friends work or is twitter a bit on the prude side?

-MarkM-

[TheVirus]

I shall laugh when people send Vegetta money and never hear from him again.

Lol that why I made everything about myself completely public. Anyone who has done enough research on me can easily find me on FACEBOOK, and TWITTER, and from there can easily hire a private investigator to come find me. It's not that hard to find someone, even YOU, yes you, everyone leaves a trail online, and to have the intent to scam is a really moronic one, especially when I have such a good opportunity to make money in the long term with this project.

It's not difficult to cut all ties and run if there was serious money involved. Also, I can create a fake Facebook account with hundred of 'friends' and a bullshit twitter account. People that trust online personas are asking to be taken advantage of.

Well I am signing contracts with all my team members, I am fed-exing them all contracts that will be pre-approved by everyone on the team. I am going to be equally as transparent with the public share holders. You're a complete tool, and you deserve to be silenced, simply because your ignorant, and spread disinformation that hurts the community.

Go away..

EDIT: Hey clown, check your BTC account, I just donated 0.10BTC just so you stop trolling all my threads and hopefully anyone Else's threads who are serious about this medium of exchange. Obviously you are not serious about pushing it's future, so maybe I can at-least pay for your silence, since you have absolutely nothing useful to contribute other than baseless attacks. It's sad that you have to pay trolls to shut up, but it's that serious.

Please stay the hell away.

Thank you kindly, sir. Good luck on your project.