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June 29, 2011, 03:44:07 PM
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Maybe this will help:

I deposit 0.5 BTC on the site. I select 20 (currently idle) models that I would pay 0.5 BTC to see perform. Once ten customers like me have put a 0.5 BTC deposit on the same individual model, the model does a group performance which only these paying customers can view. The ten customers pay out 0.5 BTC * 10 for a total of 5 BTC going to the model/middleman. The customers' 'bids' on other models are withdrawn. Bids/pledges/(whatever you want to call them) should be standardized (e.g. all set to 0.5 BTC) for this system to work well.

Since I don't want to risk losing my 0.5 BTC without getting a show, the 0.5 BTC are returned to me once I have waited for 30 minutes and no show has happened.

Even better, I think:

I deposit at least 2 BTC on the site. I select 20 (currently idle) models that I would pay 0.5 BTC to see perform. Once ten customers like me have put a 2 BTC deposit on the same individual model, the model does a group performance which only these paying customers can view. During the performance, the model offers 'upgrades' with set fees. I can click on an upgrade and contribute towards its fee. If an upgrade is fully paid, we get it and pay for it. If it's not fully paid, we get our BTC back. Each upgrade comes up as an offer and then expires (so we can put those same funds towards another one if we want to). If the model is smart, she'll start doing something really interesting right as time is running out -- extending is an upgrade. The ten customers then get back any unpaid funds (or can use them towards another show).

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June 29, 2011, 03:49:08 PM
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lol @ MarkM's post.  Classic Porn SEO.  No doubt is an old school Black Hat World person Wink   The old ways do not work, and I'm sure you are happier they do not.   You are the first authentic post in this thread I would call as someone working in the industry as successful.

Conversions is the name of the game now and I think it just makes for better content for everybody Smiley

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June 29, 2011, 04:05:35 PM
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I am loving these ideas, keep em coming guys.

And MarkM, traffic will come don't worry about that. This site will be fully SEO'D and heavily marketed under several different social mediums. I have made sites rank before, and I am wholly confident that I can do it again.
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July 03, 2011, 09:02:38 PM
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Hey man will your site have some kind of referral program? I was into the adult affilate marketing thing for a while and got bored with it.  I will get back into it if there is some incentive to promote.  Just wondering.  (sorry if its been covered already, haven't gone through the whole thread)
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July 03, 2011, 09:12:05 PM
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As programmer of the site, I will forward this Idea to vegetta. No doubt we will have somthing like this tho, this is an awsome idea.
Were you thinking rewards as money? discounts? or bitcam points?
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July 06, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
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As someone who has founded, funded, and run 6 companies from adult website revenue,  I can assure you, Jessy is not trolling you.  As a few other enlightened individuals have pointed out,  you are CRAZY not to study every word she said and try to understand the PRINCIPLES if nothing else behind what she was trying to tell you.   This woman knows the business.  You dont.  Its beyond me why she offered you so much hard earned information for free especially after the way you attacked her repeatedly, but my god, man! - Listen to this woman!  

Having said that.... i wish you luck.  If by blind chance and hard work (and trust me thats what it will be) you make this thing a success,  you will think back to what a couple people were trying to tell you in this thread in a few years and think to yourself "My god! I should have listened to them! I could have avoided so many mistakes!"

Jessy,  if you have projects that need partners or funding,  PM me!  
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July 07, 2011, 05:23:42 PM
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Is anyone else getting a "The site's security certificate is not trusted!" from GLBSE, using Chrome?


Yes it's self signed for the moment (until I get a signed one), I'm also wondering why this is coming up here.

Is this idea going to be listing on GLBSE for capital?

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July 07, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
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Is anyone else getting a "The site's security certificate is not trusted!" from GLBSE, using Chrome?


Yes it's self signed for the moment (until I get a signed one), I'm also wondering why this is coming up here.

Is this idea going to be listing on GLBSE for capital?
We are talking about it yes, I am getting tons of inquiry's every day about it. I haven't had the time to draft a shares contract, or even talk to my team about what we're going to do as far as splitting public shares go, because my site tweetforum was hacked and down for almost a week. It has taken alot of time and energy out of me, and thank god that xenland has been there to help me re-cooperate some of the losses that we went through at TweetForum during the hacking. I am 99% sure it was someone from this thread. If that's fine with you sir, we will be using your site as an exchange medium in the future.
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July 07, 2011, 05:30:38 PM
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Go away you to. Shoo..

This thread has gone through enough abuse, and trolling. She could have made her points in a much less inflammatory way, and if you don't see that, you're a moron.

Leave this thread begone!

Uh... Now you start attacking me?  Guess what?  If you start a PUBLIC thread on a PUBLIC forum you open yourself to anyone being able to comment.  Thats kinda the whole of a forum, mister.   If you want to control who engages in this discussion and what they say,  go start your own forum.   Have fun trying to get any of this site's moderators to help you censor and silence anyone who disagrees with you here on this forum.   Everyone in this thread has been very civil to you including Jessy.  The fact that you dont see she was trying to help boggles my mind.   You are doomed to many failures in life, my friend.


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P.S I don't know if because of your bias you weren't able to see the abuses towards me and my personal site

I dont have a bias.  You have a a good idea but are without a clue how to execute it and refuse to take FREE advice from people with years of experience in the very industry you want to crack.   The kind of advice Jessy was trying to give you people normally pay good money for.  That makes you an idiot.  Im not being abusive - it's just the simple truth Cheesy
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July 07, 2011, 06:08:38 PM
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Is anyone else getting a "The site's security certificate is not trusted!" from GLBSE, using Chrome?


Yes it's self signed for the moment (until I get a signed one), I'm also wondering why this is coming up here.

Is this idea going to be listing on GLBSE for capital?
We are talking about it yes, I am getting tons of inquiry's every day about it. I haven't had the time to draft a shares contract, or even talk to my team about what we're going to do as far as splitting public shares go, because my site tweetforum was hacked and down for almost a week. It has taken alot of time and energy out of me, and thank god that xenland has been there to help me re-cooperate some of the losses that we went through at TweetForum during the hacking. I am 99% sure it was someone from this thread. If that's fine with you sir, we will be using your site as an exchange medium in the future.

That's what it's there for. Get in contact with me if you need help.

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July 07, 2011, 07:04:26 PM
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Vegetta, I'm not sure if you have ever checked it out but go to MFC (myfreecams) it's Excellent.
They have setups with the adult film industry and at least several of the top earners (models) regularly go to those various tradeshows/awards shows.
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July 07, 2011, 11:10:43 PM
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The fact that you dont see [Jessy] was trying to help boggles my mind.

Agreed. It's completely baffling.

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July 08, 2011, 12:11:38 AM
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The fact that you dont see [Jessy] was trying to help boggles my mind.

Agreed. It's completely baffling.

Initially baffling maybe, but as the thread progressed? Really? I cringed and still cringe at some of Vegetta's reactions, but is it really baffling that he's a human being and wants to be treated with some dignity? Would you be 100% receptive to good advice from someone if they were derogatory or belligerent? Have you ever had a parent or boss that was too harsh even if they were right? Vegetta already said many times that he would take the advice, whether he will use it or not remains to be seen.

On a hopefully unrelated note, teaching him a "lesson" in web security was uncalled for regardless of whom it was. Hopefully it will prepare him and his future endeavors for the attacks that so many other Bitcoin services have also had to grow through.

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July 08, 2011, 12:22:48 AM
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Go away you to. Shoo..

This thread has gone through enough abuse, and trolling. She could have made her points in a much less inflammatory way, and if you don't see that, you're a moron.

Leave this thread begone!

Uh... Now you start attacking me?  Guess what?  If you start a PUBLIC thread on a PUBLIC forum you open yourself to anyone being able to comment.  Thats kinda the whole of a forum, mister.   If you want to control who engages in this discussion and what they say,  go start your own forum.   Have fun trying to get any of this site's moderators to help you censor and silence anyone who disagrees with you here on this forum.   Everyone in this thread has been very civil to you including Jessy.  The fact that you dont see she was trying to help boggles my mind.   You are doomed to many failures in life, my friend.


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P.S I don't know if because of your bias you weren't able to see the abuses towards me and my personal site

I dont have a bias.  You have a a good idea but are without a clue how to execute it and refuse to take FREE advice from people with years of experience in the very industry you want to crack.   The kind of advice Jessy was trying to give you people normally pay good money for.  That makes you an idiot.  Im not being abusive - it's just the simple truth Cheesy

You still haven't left?
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July 08, 2011, 12:40:03 AM
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Vegetta, I'm not sure if you have ever checked it out but go to MFC (myfreecams) it's Excellent.
They have setups with the adult film industry and at least several of the top earners (models) regularly go to those various tradeshows/awards shows.

It is a good site, alot of people have suggested that I partner up with an already established site that can give me the models and maybe work out some type of deal.

But then is it really Bitcoin ?  Will it be as organic? Will the community (of mostly males) fall in love with it as much? If this takes off (like I know it will) , this will be the first purely organically built bitcoin business to hit the big leagues. Sure there have been others before me, and there will be many many others to come. But the attention of this thread should be a pristine indicator that the idea is valuable.

But I would like everyone's opinion on this. Would you be less likely coming to Bitcams.com if you could get all the same features that people are talking about here, with the same models that other sites have? Serious question.

Obvious advantages are

1. Solving of many legal issues
2. Solving of finding all the models
3. Solving of some of the traffic problems some people were talking about.

The people who could see themselves using Bitcams are the people I wana hear on this one.
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July 08, 2011, 01:11:15 AM
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Go away you to. Shoo..

This thread has gone through enough abuse, and trolling. She could have made her points in a much less inflammatory way, and if you don't see that, you're a moron.

Leave this thread begone!

Uh... Now you start attacking me?  Guess what?  If you start a PUBLIC thread on a PUBLIC forum you open yourself to anyone being able to comment.  Thats kinda the whole of a forum, mister.   If you want to control who engages in this discussion and what they say,  go start your own forum.   Have fun trying to get any of this site's moderators to help you censor and silence anyone who disagrees with you here on this forum.   Everyone in this thread has been very civil to you including Jessy.  The fact that you dont see she was trying to help boggles my mind.   You are doomed to many failures in life, my friend.


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P.S I don't know if because of your bias you weren't able to see the abuses towards me and my personal site

I dont have a bias.  You have a a good idea but are without a clue how to execute it and refuse to take FREE advice from people with years of experience in the very industry you want to crack.   The kind of advice Jessy was trying to give you people normally pay good money for.  That makes you an idiot.  Im not being abusive - it's just the simple truth Cheesy

You still haven't left?

I dont plan on going anywhere Cheesy   Ive got popcorn! Smiley
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July 08, 2011, 01:13:22 AM
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Go away you to. Shoo..

This thread has gone through enough abuse, and trolling. She could have made her points in a much less inflammatory way, and if you don't see that, you're a moron.

Leave this thread begone!

Uh... Now you start attacking me?  Guess what?  If you start a PUBLIC thread on a PUBLIC forum you open yourself to anyone being able to comment.  Thats kinda the whole of a forum, mister.   If you want to control who engages in this discussion and what they say,  go start your own forum.   Have fun trying to get any of this site's moderators to help you censor and silence anyone who disagrees with you here on this forum.   Everyone in this thread has been very civil to you including Jessy.  The fact that you dont see she was trying to help boggles my mind.   You are doomed to many failures in life, my friend.


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P.S I don't know if because of your bias you weren't able to see the abuses towards me and my personal site

I dont have a bias.  You have a a good idea but are without a clue how to execute it and refuse to take FREE advice from people with years of experience in the very industry you want to crack.   The kind of advice Jessy was trying to give you people normally pay good money for.  That makes you an idiot.  Im not being abusive - it's just the simple truth Cheesy

You still haven't left?

I dont plan on going anywhere Cheesy   Ive got popcorn! Smiley
Glad you showed your true colors, and have admitted that you are only here to troll. In that case I hope everyone ignores every single one of your threads from here on.

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July 08, 2011, 01:19:50 AM
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Ive got popcorn as in this thread and you entertain me (well intrigue me at least) Cheesy Cheesy
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July 08, 2011, 01:55:28 AM
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I asked her to be on the team twice already via PM, and she declined quite viciously.  
Trying to help != Wanting to join
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July 08, 2011, 02:10:33 AM
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I asked her to be on the team twice already via PM, and she declined quite viciously.  
Trying to help != Wanting to join
I don't think she was ever serious about helping me. I think her primary intention was to ridicule me and the project, to the point where she would get the community to turn on me, thus killing the project before it even got started. Well she hasn't succeeded, because honestly I don't give up. She messed with the wrong person, and in the end when it's all said and done she will look like a fool.

she wasnt trying to get anyone to turn on you, man!  she was just giving you good advice.  Paranoid much ?
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