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January 15, 2018, 09:38:10 PM
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Hi guys, i'm a newbie... I've a problem... from few days my Win wallet give my an error when i lunch it.
This is the error:
http://i65.tinypic.com/vrvtw8.jpg

Anybody can help me? i fear to loose my pirls..
Thank all

Same error with Nautilus Wallet... Huh Huh
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January 16, 2018, 09:07:11 AM
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POW MINING WILL ALWAYS BE IMPLEMENTED AND WILL NOT TURN INTO POS.

This is nonsense.  Cheesy
Are you ready to burn hundreds of kilowatts of electricity and ruin the environment, rather than to follow the example of other eco-friendly POS coins spending many times less?

A small example:

(BTC: 14.000,000 TH/s = 1,120,000 AntminerT9 * 12.5 TH/s; 1,500W each * 1,120,000 = 1,680 MW of power)
To power ETH network you need 70,695,200 GPUs GTX1070 25MH/s each; with each GPU taking 100W: 7,069 MW of power
Both BTC (1,680 MW) and ETH (7,069MW) can power New York City!
(DMD: 137 MNs * 5W RaspberryPi = 685W)

So how much electricity are you ready to burn now?  Smiley

I see that just as an incentive to turn to renewable energy sources... wind, water, sun vs burning coal. If you want to be eco friendly, don't use crypto at all, because it all runs on computers.

The solution to the energy consumption is not that easy. If all the miners would buy energy from renewable energy sources the price per kWh would increase and other “green energy” users would be forced to switch back to conventional energy sources. The entire POS concept seems to be the better choice - don’t get me wrong I am a miner myself (only using energy from water energy sources) and love it but the energy consumption is huge.

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January 16, 2018, 04:14:11 PM
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POW MINING WILL ALWAYS BE IMPLEMENTED AND WILL NOT TURN INTO POS.

This is nonsense.  Cheesy
Are you ready to burn hundreds of kilowatts of electricity and ruin the environment, rather than to follow the example of other eco-friendly POS coins spending many times less?

A small example:

(BTC: 14.000,000 TH/s = 1,120,000 AntminerT9 * 12.5 TH/s; 1,500W each * 1,120,000 = 1,680 MW of power)
To power ETH network you need 70,695,200 GPUs GTX1070 25MH/s each; with each GPU taking 100W: 7,069 MW of power
Both BTC (1,680 MW) and ETH (7,069MW) can power New York City!
(DMD: 137 MNs * 5W RaspberryPi = 685W)

So how much electricity are you ready to burn now?  Smiley

I see that just as an incentive to turn to renewable energy sources... wind, water, sun vs burning coal. If you want to be eco friendly, don't use crypto at all, because it all runs on computers.

The solution to the energy consumption is not that easy. If all the miners would buy energy from renewable energy sources the price per kWh would increase and other “green energy” users would be forced to switch back to conventional energy sources. The entire POS concept seems to be the better choice - don’t get me wrong I am a miner myself (only using energy from water energy sources) and love it but the energy consumption is huge.

What you say makes sense of course in theory but in practice you have to consider this: most of the POS crypto assets are MLM shitcoins, and are conceived just to scam people out of their money. At least that's what I saw. I also think that decentralization is better achieved with POW, because everyone (relatively speaking) can join in, not just investors and gamblers.
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January 16, 2018, 04:26:02 PM
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POW MINING WILL ALWAYS BE IMPLEMENTED AND WILL NOT TURN INTO POS.

This is nonsense.  Cheesy
Are you ready to burn hundreds of kilowatts of electricity and ruin the environment, rather than to follow the example of other eco-friendly POS coins spending many times less?

A small example:

(BTC: 14.000,000 TH/s = 1,120,000 AntminerT9 * 12.5 TH/s; 1,500W each * 1,120,000 = 1,680 MW of power)
To power ETH network you need 70,695,200 GPUs GTX1070 25MH/s each; with each GPU taking 100W: 7,069 MW of power
Both BTC (1,680 MW) and ETH (7,069MW) can power New York City!
(DMD: 137 MNs * 5W RaspberryPi = 685W)

So how much electricity are you ready to burn now?  Smiley

I see that just as an incentive to turn to renewable energy sources... wind, water, sun vs burning coal. If you want to be eco friendly, don't use crypto at all, because it all runs on computers.

The solution to the energy consumption is not that easy. If all the miners would buy energy from renewable energy sources the price per kWh would increase and other “green energy” users would be forced to switch back to conventional energy sources. The entire POS concept seems to be the better choice - don’t get me wrong I am a miner myself (only using energy from water energy sources) and love it but the energy consumption is huge.

What you say makes sense of course in theory but in practice you have to consider this: most of the POS crypto assets are MLM shitcoins, and are conceived just to scam people out of their money. At least that's what I saw. I also think that decentralization is better achieved with POW, because everyone (relatively speaking) can join in, not just investors and gamblers.

So maybe it would make sense to have a solution like for taxes just an inversed version. Someone owning few coins gets a higher staking percentage with a steep decline when hodling huge numbers approaching nearly zero.

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January 16, 2018, 04:29:55 PM
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POW MINING WILL ALWAYS BE IMPLEMENTED AND WILL NOT TURN INTO POS.

This is nonsense.  Cheesy
Are you ready to burn hundreds of kilowatts of electricity and ruin the environment, rather than to follow the example of other eco-friendly POS coins spending many times less?

A small example:

(BTC: 14.000,000 TH/s = 1,120,000 AntminerT9 * 12.5 TH/s; 1,500W each * 1,120,000 = 1,680 MW of power)
To power ETH network you need 70,695,200 GPUs GTX1070 25MH/s each; with each GPU taking 100W: 7,069 MW of power
Both BTC (1,680 MW) and ETH (7,069MW) can power New York City!
(DMD: 137 MNs * 5W RaspberryPi = 685W)

So how much electricity are you ready to burn now?  Smiley

I see that just as an incentive to turn to renewable energy sources... wind, water, sun vs burning coal. If you want to be eco friendly, don't use crypto at all, because it all runs on computers.

The solution to the energy consumption is not that easy. If all the miners would buy energy from renewable energy sources the price per kWh would increase and other “green energy” users would be forced to switch back to conventional energy sources. The entire POS concept seems to be the better choice - don’t get me wrong I am a miner myself (only using energy from water energy sources) and love it but the energy consumption is huge.

What you say makes sense of course in theory but in practice you have to consider this: most of the POS crypto assets are MLM shitcoins, and are conceived just to scam people out of their money. At least that's what I saw. I also think that decentralization is better achieved with POW, because everyone (relatively speaking) can join in, not just investors and gamblers.

So maybe it would make sense to have a solution like for taxes just an inversed version. Someone owning few coins gets a higher staking percentage with a steep decline when hodling huge numbers approaching nearly zero.

Makes sense, also related to energy efficiency, I would probably ban huge pool mining and encourage solo mining for up to 8 gpus, to limit in some way processing power of each miner.
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January 16, 2018, 06:15:43 PM
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can i see white paper at where?
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January 16, 2018, 09:08:49 PM
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Can Piril be solo mined?

Yes it can.  Mining operation can be established using GETH Fork made for PIRL. PIRL can be downloaded here http://release.pirl.io/downloads/

If you prefer to build - https://github.com/pirl/pirl



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January 16, 2018, 09:39:37 PM
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PIRL newbie here.

Can you run a masternode on Windows?

What are advantages over ETH, EXP, UBQ, ELLA,...? Why should one invest in PIRL instead of these other coins?

Thanks.

Masternode can only be run on Linux at this time. 
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January 16, 2018, 09:54:22 PM
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Hi guys, i'm a newbie... I've a problem... from few days my Win wallet give my an error when i lunch it.
This is the error:
http://i65.tinypic.com/vrvtw8.jpg

Anybody can help me? i fear to loose my pirls..
Thank all

Same error with Nautilus Wallet... Huh Huh

You shouldn't worry about losing your PIRL, they are on the blockchain.  As long as you have your keystore file you should be fine.  The screenshot you posted still shows Oyster, not Nautilus.

Do you have another coin wallet when starting PIRL wallet?

You can also get additional support by joining the PIRL Discord chat. https://discord.gg/z4faFxD
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January 17, 2018, 09:41:52 PM
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Hi guys, i'm a newbie... I've a problem... from few days my Win wallet give my an error when i lunch it.
This is the error:
http://i65.tinypic.com/vrvtw8.jpg

Anybody can help me? i fear to loose my pirls..
Thank all

Same error with Nautilus Wallet... Huh Huh

You shouldn't worry about losing your PIRL, they are on the blockchain.  As long as you have your keystore file you should be fine.  The screenshot you posted still shows Oyster, not Nautilus.

Do you have another coin wallet when starting PIRL wallet?

You can also get additional support by joining the PIRL Discord chat. https://discord.gg/z4faFxD

Thanks j0v8008 for your answer. I tried to do an experiment. I installed a new wallet in my laptop and I passed the old appdata Pirl folder in it.
Before this I try to start the new wallet, everything is ok, but after passing the folder gives me the same error..
Maybe as a newbie I did not save the right key .. When I installed the wallet I made different accounts and the only key i have belong to an old account. I lost my pirls ??
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January 17, 2018, 11:43:01 PM
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Hi guys, i'm a newbie... I've a problem... from few days my Win wallet give my an error when i lunch it.
This is the error:


Anybody can help me? i fear to loose my pirls..
Thank all

Same error with Nautilus Wallet... Huh Huh

You shouldn't worry about losing your PIRL, they are on the blockchain.  As long as you have your keystore file you should be fine.  The screenshot you posted still shows Oyster, not Nautilus.

Do you have another coin wallet when starting PIRL wallet?

You can also get additional support by joining the PIRL Discord chat. https://discord.gg/z4faFxD

Thanks j0v8008 for your answer. I tried to do an experiment. I installed a new wallet in my laptop and I passed the old appdata Pirl folder in it.
Before this I try to start the new wallet, everything is ok, but after passing the folder gives me the same error..
Maybe as a newbie I did not save the right key .. When I installed the wallet I made different accounts and the only key i have belong to an old account. I lost my pirls ??
You have to copy only the keystore files (located in C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Pirl\keystore), not the entire Appdata folder.
Backup all your keystore files ,delete pirl related folders in AppData, install a clean version of Nautilus, reboot, and import your keystore files. It should work

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January 18, 2018, 06:41:55 PM
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I am curious. How do you see profitability of PIRL masternodes?
13 seconds between blocks, 2 PIRL for MN from each block. Looks interesting. Smiley

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January 18, 2018, 08:40:47 PM
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Hi guys, i'm a newbie... I've a problem... from few days my Win wallet give my an error when i lunch it.
This is the error:
http://i65.tinypic.com/vrvtw8.jpg

Anybody can help me? i fear to loose my pirls..
Thank all

Same error with Nautilus Wallet... Huh Huh

You shouldn't worry about losing your PIRL, they are on the blockchain.  As long as you have your keystore file you should be fine.  The screenshot you posted still shows Oyster, not Nautilus.

Do you have another coin wallet when starting PIRL wallet?

You can also get additional support by joining the PIRL Discord chat. https://discord.gg/z4faFxD

Thanks j0v8008 for your answer. I tried to do an experiment. I installed a new wallet in my laptop and I passed the old appdata Pirl folder in it.
Before this I try to start the new wallet, everything is ok, but after passing the folder gives me the same error..
Maybe as a newbie I did not save the right key .. When I installed the wallet I made different accounts and the only key i have belong to an old account. I lost my pirls ??
You have to copy only the keystore files (located in C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Pirl\keystore), not the entire Appdata folder.
Backup all your keystore files ,delete pirl related folders in AppData, install a clean version of Nautilus, reboot, and import your keystore files. It should work
Thank you gurumeditation!!! I import my key when Nautilus ask me to import any wallet file and now it's all ok Grin Grin
Thank you very much!!
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January 18, 2018, 10:25:08 PM
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The solution to the energy consumption is not that easy. If all the miners would buy energy from renewable energy sources the price per kWh would increase and other “green energy” users would be forced to switch back to conventional energy sources. The entire POS concept seems to be the better choice - don’t get me wrong I am a miner myself (only using energy from water energy sources) and love it but the energy consumption is huge.

That's not how economics works; in the VERY short term, perhaps. But increased demand for green energy drives demand for production, research, and development into larger and more efficient renewable energy sources. If the demand on the grid suddenly went from 1/4 to 1/2 renewable, you wouldn't have more customers switching back to nuclear, oil, or coal, you'd have more companies developing biomass, hydro, wind, solar, etc.
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January 19, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
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haha do you know that feeling when you are looking for something on your PC and you find some wallet of some coin you dont even remember mining? So i found a pirl today, was probably trying to mine it in november... nice to see it is worth 10x more now  Cool

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January 19, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
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It is interesting to know when will the full payments on  masternodes.
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January 19, 2018, 03:00:56 PM
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I'm trying to add it to MEW but I'm having a hard time locating the contract address. I used etherscan and got  0x1844b21593262668b7248d0f57a220caaba46ab9 but it's not check summed and mew says it's not valid. Any help for the noob is greatly appreciated. I notice most devs don't feature it prominently in their faqs, it's not just pirl. I know you want us to use your wallet, but it should be a bit easier to find a cut and paste contract address. I looked, I really did.   

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January 19, 2018, 05:42:06 PM
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I'm trying to add it to MEW but I'm having a hard time locating the contract address. I used etherscan and got  0x1844b21593262668b7248d0f57a220caaba46ab9 but it's not check summed and mew says it's not valid. Any help for the noob is greatly appreciated. I notice most devs don't feature it prominently in their faqs, it's not just pirl. I know you want us to use your wallet, but it should be a bit easier to find a cut and paste contract address. I looked, I really did.   

It's not an Ethereum token, so you can't just add it to MEW.
It's a clone/fork of Ethereum so a separate blockchain.
If you want a web wallet use this: https://wallet.pirl.io/ which is a clone of MEW for PIRL Wink
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January 19, 2018, 06:08:40 PM
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I'm trying to add it to MEW but I'm having a hard time locating the contract address. I used etherscan and got  0x1844b21593262668b7248d0f57a220caaba46ab9 but it's not check summed and mew says it's not valid. Any help for the noob is greatly appreciated. I notice most devs don't feature it prominently in their faqs, it's not just pirl. I know you want us to use your wallet, but it should be a bit easier to find a cut and paste contract address. I looked, I really did.   

It's not an Ethereum token, so you can't just add it to MEW.
It's a clone/fork of Ethereum so a separate blockchain.
If you want a web wallet use this: https://wallet.pirl.io/ which is a clone of MEW for PIRL Wink

Damn. Well there goes .2 pirl.
Thanks.
I don't like having to have so many wallets. At least now I know.
Noobs gonna Noob.  Tongue

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January 19, 2018, 06:19:43 PM
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I'm trying to add it to MEW but I'm having a hard time locating the contract address. I used etherscan and got  0x1844b21593262668b7248d0f57a220caaba46ab9 but it's not check summed and mew says it's not valid. Any help for the noob is greatly appreciated. I notice most devs don't feature it prominently in their faqs, it's not just pirl. I know you want us to use your wallet, but it should be a bit easier to find a cut and paste contract address. I looked, I really did.   

It's not an Ethereum token, so you can't just add it to MEW.
It's a clone/fork of Ethereum so a separate blockchain.
If you want a web wallet use this: https://wallet.pirl.io/ which is a clone of MEW for PIRL Wink

Damn. Well there goes .2 pirl.
Thanks.
I don't like having to have so many wallets. At least now I know.
Noobs gonna Noob.  Tongue

https://wallet.pirl.io/  is pretty simple, the same ui and stuff like mew
you can also import the json file with drag & drop into the lokal NAUTILUS Wallet.

Pretty easy also for noobies  Grin

btw. i really like pirl, the idea and the wallets far. will buy the dips next days/weeks and looking for the mn realease

cheers
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