[ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner!

[DrTrouble]

These still available anywhere??

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[DRH]

At the risk of sounding like a Mac user, would these run on a Mac, or just PC?
(Betraying my naivety here.)

[jstefanop]

At the risk of sounding like a Mac user, would these run on a Mac, or just PC?
(Betraying my naivety here.)

haha don't worry your good...I actually despise everything windows I haven't even built windows binaries for these yet. I have been developing these on my Ubuntu and Mac dev systems so far

[siforek]

Quick ROI is not the point of this miner, and if you want to buy 10 to just mine for profitability your better off getting a large ASIC. Its not possible for a single stick USB miner to be anywhere near as profitable as a large ASIC or GPUs because of economies of scale.

For example this miner half of the cost goes to ASIC, and the other half goes to assembly/component costs. For large miners its 90% ASIC cost and 10% Assembly/components because they can stick hundreds of ASICs into one miner.

Thanks for the response. Still what is the point of this little cute device if not for mining for profit? or is it just for mining for fun?

That's what I figured. I was gonna give them out as gifts for people that want to mine but not yet ready to drop thousands on a fill rig..

[QuintLeo]

LoL. Why mine if not for profit? Well done jstefanop, you sold your product to gullible masses... Who might end up never turning a profit from these things because...

 Not much probability of them achieving ROI in a year, but they're the most EFFICIENT miner available which means they have plenty of time to achieve ROI.

 To be fair though, anyone mining with a USB stick has NEVER had a high probability of rapid ROI achievement - they are ALWAYS going to be quite a bit more expensive per hash than a "big" miner.

[woogod]

LoL. Why mine if not for profit? Well done jstefanop, you sold your product to gullible masses... Who might end up never turning a profit from these things because...

 Not much probability of them achieving ROI in a year, but they're the most EFFICIENT miner available which means they have plenty of time to achieve ROI.

 To be fair though, anyone mining with a USB stick has NEVER had a high probability of rapid ROI achievement - they are ALWAYS going to be quite a bit more expensive per hash than a "big" miner.

Agree, but USB miners have the perk of being able to be sneakily plugged into your parent's desktops :3

[sloBlocks]

Hello Everyone. For some reason I went to bitshopper.de, saw the news section but was already late. Anyway, will wait till next batch.

[catcorp]

I'm pretty new to this, but how would one hook it up to a raspberry pi? I'm currently using BFGminer on my GPU to mine some nyancoins for fun. Ordered the moonlander2 recently from germany.
BFGminer works on the Pi? There's so many pages that 'explain' it but whats the right one to follow?

I'm sorry if this has been asked before or if this sounds dumb.

[Astrali]

I'm pretty new to this, but how would one hook it up to a raspberry pi? I'm currently using BFGminer on my GPU to mine some nyancoins for fun. Ordered the moonlander2 recently from germany.
BFGminer works on the Pi? There's so many pages that 'explain' it but whats the right one to follow?

I'm sorry if this has been asked before or if this sounds dumb.

hi a raspberry got USB ports - connect a powered USB switch to your Raspberry and there you connect the moonlander 2.

there is mining software for rapsberry!

i am using minera (a graphical interface) on my raspberry to control my current gridseed miner. works like a charm

[Sileni]

Jesus I wish I hadn't missed the initial release of these, I'd love to pick up a set of 5.

[catcorp]

I'm pretty new to this, but how would one hook it up to a raspberry pi? I'm currently using BFGminer on my GPU to mine some nyancoins for fun. Ordered the moonlander2 recently from germany.
BFGminer works on the Pi? There's so many pages that 'explain' it but whats the right one to follow?

I'm sorry if this has been asked before or if this sounds dumb.

hi a raspberry got USB ports - connect a powered USB switch to your Raspberry and there you connect the moonlander 2.

there is mining software for rapsberry!

i am using minera (a graphical interface) on my raspberry to control my current gridseed miner. works like a charm

hey cool thanks! I guess i can load up bfgminer too, i saw some pages about it. Now all i gotta figure out is if the raspberry has enough Watts to deliver and has a good usb3 - with power.
By powered USB switch you mean a USB block you install on the raspberry?

This is gonna be a fun project!

[n00bminer]

hey cool thanks! I guess i can load up bfgminer too, i saw some pages about it. Now all i gotta figure out is if the raspberry has enough Watts to deliver and has a good usb3 - with power.
By powered USB switch you mean a USB block you install on the raspberry?

This is gonna be a fun project!

I currently run 4 moonlanders (3 v1.2, 1 v1.1) on a pi, running minera with the custom bfgminer compiled.  The moonlanders are tweaked to v.95(as high as I wanted to go) running off a superbpag 7 port hub.
You can see them here https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/42227

[jstefanop]

hey cool thanks! I guess i can load up bfgminer too, i saw some pages about it. Now all i gotta figure out is if the raspberry has enough Watts to deliver and has a good usb3 - with power.
By powered USB switch you mean a USB block you install on the raspberry?

This is gonna be a fun project!

I currently run 4 moonlanders (3 v1.2, 1 v1.1) on a pi, running minera with the custom bfgminer compiled.  The moonlanders are tweaked to v.95(as high as I wanted to go) running off a superbpag 7 port hub.
You can see them here https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/42227

Where did you get a v1.1?? I made like 5 of those for review units

[n00bminer]

hey cool thanks! I guess i can load up bfgminer too, i saw some pages about it. Now all i gotta figure out is if the raspberry has enough Watts to deliver and has a good usb3 - with power.
By powered USB switch you mean a USB block you install on the raspberry?

This is gonna be a fun project!

I currently run 4 moonlanders (3 v1.2, 1 v1.1) on a pi, running minera with the custom bfgminer compiled.  The moonlanders are tweaked to v.95(as high as I wanted to go) running off a superbpag 7 port hub.
You can see them here https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/42227

Where did you get a v1.1?? I made like 5 of those for review units

EBAY!  FB0004 =)

[aarons6]

hey cool thanks! I guess i can load up bfgminer too, i saw some pages about it. Now all i gotta figure out is if the raspberry has enough Watts to deliver and has a good usb3 - with power.
By powered USB switch you mean a USB block you install on the raspberry?

This is gonna be a fun project!

I currently run 4 moonlanders (3 v1.2, 1 v1.1) on a pi, running minera with the custom bfgminer compiled.  The moonlanders are tweaked to v.95(as high as I wanted to go) running off a superbpag 7 port hub.
You can see them here https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/42227

Where did you get a v1.1?? I made like 5 of those for review units

EBAY!  FB0004 =)

that one with a bunch of HWE is lowering your poolside avg.. you might actually be better if you lowered the speed one notch down.

[jbonifacio]

n00bminer, interesting feedback. How can I learn more about these statistics and their relationship to performance? According to this github FAQ entry they suggest leaving everything at default:

Q: What are the best parameters to pass for X pool/hardware/device.
A: Virtually always, the DEFAULT parameters give the best results. Most user
defined settings lead to worse performance.

I'm just interested in learning more about what all the output means.

Thanks!

[n00bminer]

that one with a bunch of HWE is lowering your poolside avg.. you might actually be better if you lowered the speed one notch down.

Thanks!  I had not look at it until I took the screen shot for a couple days.  I lowered it down to 304 last night after the post.

[n00bminer]

n00bminer, interesting feedback. How can I learn more about these statistics and their relationship to performance? According to this github FAQ entry they suggest leaving everything at default:

Q: What are the best parameters to pass for X pool/hardware/device.
A: Virtually always, the DEFAULT parameters give the best results. Most user
defined settings lead to worse performance.

I'm just interested in learning more about what all the output means.

Thanks!

As far as custom bfgminer, I was talking about the original bfgminer released for v1.2 moonlanders.  jstephanop will post new bfgminer/futurebit drivers when the new units(v2.0) are released.   As far as the voltage is concerned, I followed jstephanop tuning procedure to the letter.

[catcorp]

 As far as the voltage is concerned, I followed jstephanop tuning procedure to the letter.

yep let's see if it's possible in a way to have one moonlander2 run on a pi on full power.

[mrgoldy]

As far as the voltage is concerned, I followed jstephanop tuning procedure to the letter.

yep let's see if it's possible in a way to have one moonlander2 run on a pi on full power.

I think there was talk earlier that it wouldn't   that you'd need to get a powered hub,  and a 2A per port hub if you run them at full speed/higher voltage  (with cooling)