[ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner!

[Minernz]

Did you purchase your ASIC chips pre made or have it made specifically for you?

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[sunk818]

Any thoughts on this as a USB HUB? https://smile.amazon.com/Anker-7-Port-Adapter-Charging-iPhone/dp/B014ZQ07NE

[jstefanop]

Do we have an estimated shipping date?

I want to know too, but just trust him and give him time to do the best work

When I saw his picture of the production candidate (smaller than dev) and the following message of considering heatsink and small fan, I felt his passion for the product.
That is great. So I want him to do what he wants, to improve the product.

Shipping is all dependent on when I get the ASICs, and foundry is still on schedule for mid-october delivery to me. Most major parts are ordered, and PCB design is is almost complete. As soon as I have the chips ill be able to start production and will be shipping out hundreds per day. The first people that pre-ordered will probably get theirs end of october, and if you were at the end of the pre-order probably mid-november.

And yes, this at minimum will ship with heatsink, and all you need to run at lower end speeds without a fan. Im trying to work with a small fan manufacture so I can bundle a fan as a "thanks" to everyone that pre-ordered. This will allow you to run it at almost full speed without needing an external fan to blow on the sticks.

[org0x004]

Do we have an estimated shipping date?

I want to know too, but just trust him and give him time to do the best work

When I saw his picture of the production candidate (smaller than dev) and the following message of considering heatsink and small fan, I felt his passion for the product.
That is great. So I want him to do what he wants, to improve the product.

Shipping is all dependent on when I get the ASICs, and foundry is still on schedule for mid-october delivery to me. Most major parts are ordered, and PCB design is is almost complete. As soon as I have the chips ill be able to start production and will be shipping out hundreds per day. The first people that pre-ordered will probably get theirs end of october, and if you were at the end of the pre-order probably mid-november.

And yes, this at minimum will ship with heatsink, and all you need to run at lower end speeds without a fan. Im trying to work with a small fan manufacture so I can bundle a fan as a "thanks" to everyone that pre-ordered. This will allow you to run it at almost full speed without needing an external fan to blow on the sticks.

Thanks jstefanop for the update! Out of curiosity, will you solder the ASIC chip into the PCB by hand?

[Astrali]

Do we have an estimated shipping date?

I want to know too, but just trust him and give him time to do the best work

When I saw his picture of the production candidate (smaller than dev) and the following message of considering heatsink and small fan, I felt his passion for the product.
That is great. So I want him to do what he wants, to improve the product.

Shipping is all dependent on when I get the ASICs, and foundry is still on schedule for mid-october delivery to me. Most major parts are ordered, and PCB design is is almost complete. As soon as I have the chips ill be able to start production and will be shipping out hundreds per day. The first people that pre-ordered will probably get theirs end of october, and if you were at the end of the pre-order probably mid-november.

And yes, this at minimum will ship with heatsink, and all you need to run at lower end speeds without a fan. Im trying to work with a small fan manufacture so I can bundle a fan as a "thanks" to everyone that pre-ordered. This will allow you to run it at almost full speed without needing an external fan to blow on the sticks.

this sounds great for me
i got an 5V 3A power supply now and ordered a cheap USB hub. will use this one to power my moonlander 2
cant wait to get my hands on it.

i already were looking for a moonlander 1 at decent price for a while .. getting the new version for same price is great

thanks a lot that you continued your work!

[jstefanop]

Do we have an estimated shipping date?

I want to know too, but just trust him and give him time to do the best work

When I saw his picture of the production candidate (smaller than dev) and the following message of considering heatsink and small fan, I felt his passion for the product.
That is great. So I want him to do what he wants, to improve the product.

Shipping is all dependent on when I get the ASICs, and foundry is still on schedule for mid-october delivery to me. Most major parts are ordered, and PCB design is is almost complete. As soon as I have the chips ill be able to start production and will be shipping out hundreds per day. The first people that pre-ordered will probably get theirs end of october, and if you were at the end of the pre-order probably mid-november.

And yes, this at minimum will ship with heatsink, and all you need to run at lower end speeds without a fan. Im trying to work with a small fan manufacture so I can bundle a fan as a "thanks" to everyone that pre-ordered. This will allow you to run it at almost full speed without needing an external fan to blow on the sticks.

Thanks jstefanop for the update! Out of curiosity, will you solder the ASIC chip into the PCB by hand?

If I made each one by hand, then you guys wouldn't get these until 2019

All the prototypes I have shown are made by hand though...im about to go blind placing hundreds of components

[jstefanop]

So I've been playing around with memory voltage on the production board(Moonlander 2 has a separate memory voltage controller), and was originally not going to include an adjustment for memory voltage (was going to be fixed), but I've been able to make some significant powers savings by tweaking memory. So looks like you guys will have full voltage control over both memory and core voltage This frees me up from having to choose a "high" memory voltage set point to ensure it working across all chips, and you guys can tweak even lower if the ASIC allows.

Ive been able to get the low end (3.4 MH/s) down to just .75 amps! Thats 3.75 watts and 1.1 watts/MH!

For comparison to the L3+ , if I could build a 150 chip version, that would be 510 MH @ ~ 560 watts!

[org0x004]

So I've been playing around with memory voltage on the production board(Moonlander 2 has a separate memory voltage controller), and was originally not going to include an adjustment for memory voltage (was going to be fixed), but I've been able to make some significant powers savings by tweaking memory. So looks like you guys will have full voltage control over both memory and core voltage This frees me up from having to choose a "high" memory voltage set point to ensure it working across all chips, and you guys can tweak even lower if the ASIC allows.

Ive been able to get the low end (3.4 MH/s) down to just .75 amps! Thats 3.75 watts and 1.1 watts/MH!

For comparison to the L3+ , if I could build a 150 chip version, that would be 510 MH @ ~ 560 watts!

Wow! This is impressive! Any plans for a Moonlander 3 with multiple asic chips?

[Astrali]

So I've been playing around with memory voltage on the production board(Moonlander 2 has a separate memory voltage controller), and was originally not going to include an adjustment for memory voltage (was going to be fixed), but I've been able to make some significant powers savings by tweaking memory. So looks like you guys will have full voltage control over both memory and core voltage This frees me up from having to choose a "high" memory voltage set point to ensure it working across all chips, and you guys can tweak even lower if the ASIC allows.

Ive been able to get the low end (3.4 MH/s) down to just .75 amps! Thats 3.75 watts and 1.1 watts/MH!

For comparison to the L3+ , if I could build a 150 chip version, that would be 510 MH @ ~ 560 watts!

as there already is a variant with Huge amount of chips ..
i would be interested about something in the middle .. maybe a device with 20 or 30 chips.

This will most probably be payable to an average dude like me but still rock the house!

[micaxel]

after which time we can buy this miner again?

[jstefanop]

So I've been playing around with memory voltage on the production board(Moonlander 2 has a separate memory voltage controller), and was originally not going to include an adjustment for memory voltage (was going to be fixed), but I've been able to make some significant powers savings by tweaking memory. So looks like you guys will have full voltage control over both memory and core voltage This frees me up from having to choose a "high" memory voltage set point to ensure it working across all chips, and you guys can tweak even lower if the ASIC allows.

Ive been able to get the low end (3.4 MH/s) down to just .75 amps! Thats 3.75 watts and 1.1 watts/MH!

For comparison to the L3+ , if I could build a 150 chip version, that would be 510 MH @ ~ 560 watts!

as there already is a variant with Huge amount of chips ..
i would be interested about something in the middle .. maybe a device with 20 or 30 chips.

This will most probably be payable to an average dude like me but still rock the house!

Yea I would not, nor have the capability to build a huge ASIC...plus it goes against my philosophy of spreading out the hash. And yes if I do build a non USB ASIC it would be a "pod" style in the 5-20 asic range

[cmbrodbeck]

when can we buy next batch?

[Morguk]

I didn't have any spare cash to get one in the end, but thanks to people like you and sidehack for making these chips for the community Maybe in a few months I can pick a few up.

[BTC4USD]

Anyone have a good idea what USB hub will be best to run 20+ of these?

[expertlevel]

Anyone have a good idea what USB hub will be best to run 20+ of these?

I was considering this for 10x
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/20-Port-USB-HUB-Dual-USB2-0-Adapter-Industrial-Grade-Industrial-Class-Production/172852980142?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=471634643073&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Has 20 ports, 90W power supply. Two could likely meet the power/space requirements.

Was also looking at this, but kind of pricey for what it is.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-10-Port-Adapter-Including-Charging/dp/B005NGQWL2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505671531&sr=8-2&keywords=Anker+10+Port+60W+USB+3.0+Hub

Also looking into adding 5V power to an underpowered 2.0 hub as many in this thread have suggested. I've only done moderate research on it so far and am concerned about the power management and getting beyond design currents.

[aarons6]

Anyone have a good idea what USB hub will be best to run 20+ of these?

I was considering this for 10x
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/20-Port-USB-HUB-Dual-USB2-0-Adapter-Industrial-Grade-Industrial-Class-Production/172852980142?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=471634643073&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Has 20 ports, 90W power supply. Two could likely meet the power/space requirements.

Was also looking at this, but kind of pricey for what it is.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-10-Port-Adapter-Including-Charging/dp/B005NGQWL2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505671531&sr=8-2&keywords=Anker+10+Port+60W+USB+3.0+Hub

Also looking into adding 5V power to an underpowered 2.0 hub as many in this thread have suggested. I've only done moderate research on it so far and am concerned about the power management and getting beyond design currents.

the anker hub wont work.. i have one and it wont even power the first gen moonlanders.. its limited to .9w per port..

i have 8 first gen running on 2 superbpag 7 port hubs.. but it seems amazon no longer has a seller for those..


the 20 port hub you linked from ebay might work, but you can only use every other port.. so the most it seems you can get is 12

[expertlevel]

Ah shoot. Didn't see the "don't use this hub with high power-consumption devices" entry.

Any recommendations for other hubs with appropriate power supplies? I've tried to find the superbpag ones but they are either OOS everywhere or no longer made.

[jstefanop]

Keep in mind to mine these at a decent hashrate  (4MH), you only need 5 watts (1A per port). The original moonlanders you needed at LEAST 7-10 watts to mine anywhere near 1MH so these are way more USB port friendly, and alot more hubs *should* work with them.

[aarons6]

Keep in mind to mine these at a decent hashrate  (4MH), you only need 5 watts (1A per port). The original moonlanders you needed at LEAST 7-10 watts to mine anywhere near 1MH so these are way more USB port friendly, and alot more hubs *should* work with them.

any luck on getting the drivers for bfgminer to run both v1 and v2 on the same usb hub?

[zxcoiu]

As I missed pre-order, when should I expect an order or moonlander 3 ?