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June 17, 2013, 11:33:11 PM Last edit: June 17, 2013, 11:50:59 PM by Financisto |
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Any plans of increasing the minimum price of the ticket?
0.1 BTC per ticket would turn into a great funding for the jackpot, don't you think so?
Suggestion: maybe announcing 2 weekly raffles (one with min ticket price 0.01 BTC and another with 0.1 BTC) might be interesting.
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June 17, 2013, 11:48:56 PM |
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Myeh just want to say, I joined all 4 lotto's so far (not the first ofc - and after second just anon :p) but I will not join with 0.1 xD ofc 2 different ones might be a possibility (or only for the future.)
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June 17, 2013, 11:53:56 PM |
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Myeh just want to say, I joined all 4 lotto's so far (not the first ofc - and after second just anon :p) but I will not join with 0.1 xD ofc 2 different ones might be a possibility (or only for the future.)
Forgot to say: that's just a suggestion for when the website is already done. That's it!
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June 18, 2013, 12:20:43 AM Last edit: June 18, 2013, 12:39:33 AM by Dabs |
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EDIT: Dabs, can I atleast get 0.05BTC for the tickets back? Seeing as this was your fault and I did not receive my prize, nor did anyone else, I expect my tickets back.
My fault? You received your prize, it was sent back to an address you bought your tickets with. What we're trying to do here is help you find it. It must be somewhere on your computer, or on the old one or something. If you did this with SD, are they going to re-imburse you? Since I'm a nice guy, let me look for 0.05. I think I have some on PD. heheh. =) But don't say it's my fault. When this becomes automated, I wouldn't be able to help you anymore. Edit: Besides, the requirement to send to a different pay out address is to sign a bitcoin message using any of the addresses that you used to buy the tickets.
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June 18, 2013, 12:41:58 AM |
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Myeh just want to say, I joined all 4 lotto's so far (not the first ofc - and after second just anon :p) but I will not join with 0.1 xD ofc 2 different ones might be a possibility (or only for the future.)
Forgot to say: that's just a suggestion for when the website is already done. That's it! You can buy .1 already. But I understand, you want everyone else to buy that as the minimum as well. I will take note of the suggestion, but I don't think I can implement that just yet. To most people, that's about $10 USD. What we need is incentive to buy many tickets. Thus so far, we have the worm tickets and the volume tickets, and possible the repeat bettor. I'm still thinking about this one.
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June 18, 2013, 12:59:47 AM |
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Boelens, I will send you 0.05 on three conditions: 1. Can you sign with this bitcoin address 1C16sYNm7iHMNyB8sSRWSgsNqDXJwoJwdf ? 2. You have to buy new tickets worth at least 0.05. This round or next. Up to you. Honesty system. 3. You have to admit it's your fault AND you have to post positive trust feedback (worth 0.05 BTC). hehehe.. click on the left side. You claimed this as your transaction http://blockchain.info/tx/303cb715affa16a5025cfb1d71e639a597fc1fdb29e6b309d08402a23e296d5d earlier.
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June 18, 2013, 07:06:52 AM |
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Boelens, I will send you 0.05 on three conditions: 1. Can you sign with this bitcoin address 1C16sYNm7iHMNyB8sSRWSgsNqDXJwoJwdf ? 2. You have to buy new tickets worth at least 0.05. This round or next. Up to you. Honesty system. 3. You have to admit it's your fault AND you have to post positive trust feedback (worth 0.05 BTC). hehehe.. click on the left side.You claimed this as your transaction http://blockchain.info/tx/303cb715affa16a5025cfb1d71e639a597fc1fdb29e6b309d08402a23e296d5d earlier. You want me to, show to people, that I trust you? For 0.05BTC? I'm sorry but that is ridiculous. You can't buy trust, I'd be willing to give you trust, but it'd be a negative one. Also, I won't admit that it is my fault, when we bought tickets there was nowhere where we could enter our addresses, except now, it's new. You gave me 2 hours and it was 4AM my time, also, at that time I had a tip address in my siggy. I'm sorry, but keep it then, it's not worth that much to me.
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June 18, 2013, 07:21:45 AM |
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You want me to, show to people, that I trust you? For 0.05BTC? I'm sorry but that is ridiculous. You can't buy trust, I'd be willing to give you trust, but it'd be a negative one. Also, I won't admit that it is my fault, when we bought tickets there was nowhere where we could enter our addresses, except now, it's new. You gave me 2 hours and it was 4AM my time, also, at that time I had a tip address in my siggy. I'm sorry, but keep it then, it's not worth that much to me.
0.05 BTC is what we are working with here. Of course, you already trusted me with 0.53 BTC when you won. Then I promptly sent it. I do believe, you are correct and I have the whole idea about this Trust forum thing wrong. Anyway, feel free to do what you want. The whole system since Lotto Number 1 stated that you have to buy tickets with an address you control or with a compatible wallet. It's not my fault you lost the private key to your own bitcoin address. For reference, here is the thread of the very first game https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063.0This thread, hasn't changed much that basic requirement, it just added more rules for the bonuses and secrets. The option to change pay out address if ever, should be exercised right from the start, at least everyone can see the signed bitcoin message. So if it's no one's fault, then I guess it's just bad luck. You still won. You just can't get to your coins. I've followed the rules I outlined exactly as written in the first post. If you can't get to the 0.53 BTC, no one else can, not even me. Anyway, I'm still a nice guy, do you still want 0.05 BTC? Please post an address. If it's in your sig, I can't read it (maybe it got cut off at the bottom.) I'm sorry if this is causing you trouble.
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June 18, 2013, 07:26:59 AM |
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You want me to, show to people, that I trust you? For 0.05BTC? I'm sorry but that is ridiculous. You can't buy trust, I'd be willing to give you trust, but it'd be a negative one. Also, I won't admit that it is my fault, when we bought tickets there was nowhere where we could enter our addresses, except now, it's new. You gave me 2 hours and it was 4AM my time, also, at that time I had a tip address in my siggy. I'm sorry, but keep it then, it's not worth that much to me.
0.05 BTC is what we are working with here. Of course, you already trusted me with 0.53 BTC when you won. Then I promptly sent it. I do believe, you are correct and I have the whole idea about this Trust forum thing wrong. Anyway, feel free to do what you want. The whole system since Lotto Number 1 stated that you have to buy tickets with an address you control or with a compatible wallet. It's not my fault you lost the private key to your own bitcoin address. For reference, here is the thread of the very first game https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063.0This thread, hasn't changed much that basic requirement, it just added more rules for the bonuses and secrets. The option to change pay out address if ever, should be exercised right from the start, at least everyone can see the signed bitcoin message. So if it's no one's fault, then I guess it's just bad luck. You still won. You just can't get to your coins. I've followed the rules I outlined exactly as written in the first post. If you can't get to the 0.53 BTC, no one else can, not even me. Anyway, I'm still a nice guy, do you still want 0.05 BTC? Please post an address. If it's in your sig, I can't read it (maybe it got cut off at the bottom.) I'm sorry if this is causing you trouble. I agree that it is nobody's fault. But I don't want your 0.05BTC.
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Boelens
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June 18, 2013, 07:36:03 AM |
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Well, if you insist on sending it, : 1BoeLensDrVHLjYW4pPab5UENKBuDupfKt
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June 18, 2013, 07:47:39 AM |
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It's really neither party's fault. In somewhat similar cases, courts have ruled that it would be unfair to shift the burden to the person who wasn't affected in the first place for something that isn't their fault (ie Dabs).
Trust should never be used as "I'll do X if you give me trust".
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June 18, 2013, 08:08:52 AM |
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Also it is proven that Dabs sent the money to the winner: http://blockchain.info/address/1KBrihdqn3Ysz2J22FSyyJsYGPUZoQwXR4So it's definitely not Dabs error and the thing with the 2 hours time to change the payout address: This would have seriously not been an issue normally since IF you are the owner of that address you WOULD have received it anyways. Also you were able to post that signed message hours before the results were in, so you had 7 days time to send that message. (In no way is anyone responsible for the corruption of your wallet-file but yourself)
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June 18, 2013, 08:17:11 AM |
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Also it is proven that Dabs sent the money to the winner: http://blockchain.info/address/1KBrihdqn3Ysz2J22FSyyJsYGPUZoQwXR4So it's definitely not Dabs error and the thing with the 2 hours time to change the payout address: This would have seriously not been an issue normally since IF you are the owner of that address you WOULD have received it anyways. Also you were able to post that signed message hours before the results were in, so you had 7 days time to send that message. (In no way is anyone responsible for the corruption of your wallet-file but yourself) Myself? It isn't corrupt at all. I am the owner of that address, you think I hijacked someone's wallet and used that? I in no way corrupted the wallet.dat, I checked with TF, everything I did is possible and not bad at all.
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June 18, 2013, 01:23:11 PM |
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Ok. Let's just learn from this lesson. Boelens, I'll send it to you tomorrow, I'm on my non-bitcoin computer now. It's my of saying thanks for playing and I hope you play again.
OT: I just got the Asus O Play Mini Media Player and getting some HD movies to play with it.
Everyone else: Jackpot at 0.34689 BTC!
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June 19, 2013, 12:09:43 AM |
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Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet Date: 2013-06-19 08:10 To: Boelens 1BoeLensDrVHLjYW4pPab5UENKBuDupfKt Debit: -0.05 BTC Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC Net amount: -0.0501 BTC Transaction ID: 4debf8ff32d55f6575ed7c93f182113a13a6408fddc712fbfca667475f252759 Should update soon. No strings attached. Update: Status: 1/unconfirmed, broadcast through 9 nodes http://blockchain.info/tx/4debf8ff32d55f6575ed7c93f182113a13a6408fddc712fbfca667475f252759
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June 20, 2013, 01:39:37 AM |
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Ok. Jackpot is 0.34689. Getting secrets now. Will post secrets and results shortly. Will send prize to winner a couple hours after that.
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June 20, 2013, 02:34:31 AM |
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Secrets for Low Hash Lotto Number 5
Low Hash Secret blcuNEEe7hpaTzvFdp7J3mtQ95s0ztGtl2qt6wGfYfLTT5Oz478Pgapn5mSOzC25
Little Bit At A Time Secret bbd19ca8a4b3b7c12d442a0054958122973b9a267d1498a3debea22d8415a70b
SatoshiDice Secret sP0JwK1QnY9bZyoIzR44oLYKdegWYDCvYMNxC2fg5NeEfC6SKwzxjcZbBQQpXUwQ
SatoshiRoulette Secret 1d21a5c9ae6c18720ddc0f879a0d0ebec0e8fdeb859c0739ba6916907844f370e3f4047034fd521 4409e946df2bcbaf83f46ebfdde6a03e6c83d38f9f1b253e2
BitSaloon Secret n4J5H2AWSXPXyPAW9BAMG111oJC95siOyq0N5xqa2vLd9UXVY6OVDaat1iVqk9Rh
PrimeDice Secret 8a03cff6c935c45fca88d9d264c56d3275a4ffb2
Random.org's Random String Generator with randomization from 2013-06-20 1NoPlAqXWAdz6u3EiyIMPLxOlQ4Hk3I6a2eTlBQubpLCPdbrebb0KZgnkWzCo0X6
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June 20, 2013, 02:55:18 AM |
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And the winner is: hash 256 tx id ticket bitcoin address 018b360c... f694d701... 000002 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 1cd179b3... 5111fddc... 000003 1B1KCnxeWhifbiDHsCogeSs4qP6qYnY9iX 243946a7... f694d701... 000013 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 2a7c6cd6... f694d701... 000005 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 2da635d9... cae15ab2... 000002 17B757qcPTGXBZvCEkEFhfDqZKo4tUmYwA 400a7222... 5111fddc... 000001 1B1KCnxeWhifbiDHsCogeSs4qP6qYnY9iX 464a0050... f694d701... 000004 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 4d20b857... 065e5d5c... 000004 1NYSALZ5W4Cpke4t7VM3qJkBinKrFDAknn 5137bc50... f694d701... 000016 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 5af839dc... 065e5d5c... 000002 1NYSALZ5W4Cpke4t7VM3qJkBinKrFDAknn 785adcf1... f694d701... 000011 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 817cdc2d... a8e04285... 000003 1EVq8bzJXS5VZnfhLToR3bgoreSuotvEKP 860c81c3... a8e04285... 000002 1EVq8bzJXS5VZnfhLToR3bgoreSuotvEKP 889fe947... f694d701... 000003 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 8c620a57... f694d701... 000014 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 91d986f2... 065e5d5c... 000001 1NYSALZ5W4Cpke4t7VM3qJkBinKrFDAknn 93e9184c... cae15ab2... 000004 17B757qcPTGXBZvCEkEFhfDqZKo4tUmYwA 9dc98320... f694d701... 000006 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 a02f3132... 5111fddc... 000004 1B1KCnxeWhifbiDHsCogeSs4qP6qYnY9iX a86cfb31... cae15ab2... 000001 17B757qcPTGXBZvCEkEFhfDqZKo4tUmYwA aa9ad972... f694d701... 000009 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 b2e9846f... f694d701... 000007 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 db896e5c... f694d701... 000012 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 df6d0461... cae15ab2... 000003 17B757qcPTGXBZvCEkEFhfDqZKo4tUmYwA e166d0e7... a8e04285... 000001 1EVq8bzJXS5VZnfhLToR3bgoreSuotvEKP ebc30c2d... f694d701... 000010 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 ef79762e... f694d701... 000001 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 f07321da... f694d701... 000015 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 f564f9ee... 5111fddc... 000002 1B1KCnxeWhifbiDHsCogeSs4qP6qYnY9iX f9c6812e... 065e5d5c... 000003 1NYSALZ5W4Cpke4t7VM3qJkBinKrFDAknn fea6f7c8... f694d701... 000008 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 Mr. 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 you will receive 0.34689 * 83.33% = 0.28906 BTC in about 2 to 3 hours if you do not post a bitcoin signed message that you want your prize to go to another bitcoin address. The rest will go back into the pot for the next round and the bitcoin transaction fee. I have only shown the first 8 digits of the hash and transaction id to save space. Someone else kindly do your computations with the revealed secrets and confirm that my computations above are correct. In about 3 hours I will send the prize if no one else complains and shows proof that my low hash is wrong. Also, while we are all waiting, Mr. TradeFortress, can you explain in a little bit more detail how your "repeat" better proposal works? Perhaps there is a simpler proposal that can be done by hand, like just taking bitcoin addresses and letting people get a small bonus, regardless of tickets bought? For the next game, if it helps, these are all the bitcoin addresses that have been used since the last two games. 17B757qcPTGXBZvCEkEFhfDqZKo4tUmYwA 1B1KCnxeWhifbiDHsCogeSs4qP6qYnY9iX 1EVq8bzJXS5VZnfhLToR3bgoreSuotvEKP 1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF 1GuRHgqsRj35f8AR2gwapAwjDRUVgNm6BR 1KBrihdqn3Ysz2J22FSyyJsYGPUZoQwXR4 1NhzqMXTvB1JT8ou4GtDSZ1qUMi1jmXCF4 1NYSALZ5W4Cpke4t7VM3qJkBinKrFDAknn 1PqaogNhkjbqjhaVhGVccTQRpnFPWGnEXH
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June 20, 2013, 03:34:30 AM |
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Yikes.. I was so close this time well cya next week keep it going, I enjoy it, salamat Dabs!
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