List of ongoing scams

[MoneypakTrader.com]

Please add a link for TF, here is the most comprehensive list of his scams:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151880.msg2702121#msg2702121

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[DiamondCardz]

Please add a link for TF, here is the most comprehensive list of his scams:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151880.msg2702121#msg2702121

Except you have almost no proof, and some of your accusations are from SCAMMER TAGGED people who actually tried to scam TF, yet you still use their accusations as valid?

Oh come on tmbp, even you can't be this retarded.

[Bitcoin Scammer]

Scammers normally know their own kind. Anyways TF is judged as a scammer at this point, so just be careful in your dealings.

[Inedible]

Please add a link for TF, here is the most comprehensive list of his scams:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151880.msg2702121#msg2702121

Except you have almost no proof, and some of your accusations are from SCAMMER TAGGED people who actually tried to scam TF, yet you still use their accusations as valid?

Oh come on tmbp, even you can't be this retarded.

I wonder how difficult it would be to orchestrate bad reputation for a very well respected and well known non-scammer?

I guess it would start with a list of 'just my opinion' scammers and a group of committed people.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Actually, it just involves a group of shared alt accounts.

[DiamondCardz]

Actually, it just involves a group of shared alt accounts.

This.

If TF isn't a scammer, why hasn't someone with the power to give trusted rep given him such? Oh, wait, no-one who is making these accusations has that status. Alts. Shills. Scammers. Et alii.

Although even if he WAS given a negative trusted rep, he would still have +1 trusted rep overall, lol.

EDIT: Yep, he would still have +1 trusted rep. Just tested.

[Insanity]

feel free to add insanity dice to the list of legit sites, we are probably fair.

[Wolf Rainer]

Here I will present the current list of ongoing scams in order to protect the community, it has been stripped of all non essentials to keep the community safe from scams, I will hold all Bitcoin businesses for full responsibility:

Legend:
Red - Most likely a scam.
Orange - Moderate chance of being a scam.
Yellow - Small chance of being a scam.
Blue - Was initially listed as scam, was whitelisted after review.

: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation <an insurance scam>

origin unknown
First Known Use: 1963

Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus".

Strike Sapphire - Bad attempt at hedging against USD, they make a profit on their own rates. Owner is rude, no provable fairness. - Owner has contacted me, explained the situation and seemed to be respectful and honest, upon further reviewing StrikeSapphire I no longer list it as small chance of being a scam

Casinobit - Bets are delayed occasionally, some bets have invalid TXIDs owner has contacted me and explained the situation, the results are apparently streamed live now regardless of the feed.

Satoshidice - IS based on irrefutable mathematics that behave in an honest manner under normal conditions, sometimes bets are delayed by 24 hours giving the house the window to bruteforce a hash that will be the most beneficial, the house or anyone else that receives access to the secret list ahead of time can submit selective bets and get a significantly lower house edge.

Almost anyone associated with them speaks in an intellectually appalling language and is full of unapologetic loose cannons, except Voorhees himself.

Wheresyouredge.com - Pending review, DO NOT trust ANY bitcoin poker sites, there are currently none that I know of that use provable fairness.

MPEX - Despite the fact that the security never actually stole or scammed members the owner Mircea Popescu is a disgusting person that uses the term "nigger" on his blog while also constantly putting people down and generally being a complete snob. Lied multiple times about being the owner of a successful company, if it wasn't for Satoshidice releasing stock in MPEX this person would be selling potatoes somewhere in Romania.

SealsWithClubs - Uses ancient software, game-play connection is not secure.

SatoshiMines - Source of entropy is bad, the house can easily bruteforce the hash to make you win/lose. Including "random" non-preselected strings in the hash render the whole process insecure.

Bcpoker.eu - The lack of professionalism of the operators of this website is astonishing NO-ONE should play for real money on this website, I discourage any n00b for opening "mah vary own cas1no" and clearly people keep ignoring my advice as I see new entries of people looking to open a Bitcoin casino for a couple hundred bucks popping up on a daily basis. The owners are known to leak personal information. It is apparently registered by a teenager under the fake name "Adam Gergo Kovacs" as well as a fake address.

Bit777 - Misleading, calling themselves "industry leading" , not provably fair whatsoever, lack of verifiables of the actual bets processed, can potentially over-inflate their own statistics, a PHP Microsoft IIS/7.5 bot decides whether you win or lose. Encourages disgusting people to post sexually explicit posts that aim to lower the social status or attempt to make other members feel ashamed.

   
Bitcoin-Roulette.com - Shamelessly stole the CSS off another website, doesn't look legit at all, seem to have ripped multiple people off.

PrimeDice - Popped up a week ago, claiming to have totaled 11,081 BTC in wagers as of 26-May-2013, domain wasn't even indexed as of a couple days ago. NO verifiables of ANY bets whatsoever. I am going to assume that a fraction of the bets is actually real and others are fakes. Backed up by co-scammers like forum member Zaih that doesn't admit to be associated directly. The 28 page thread is mostly spam between 4 members associated with the scam.

Shilling has been shown to take place in the official thread, this will be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

As of now, Primedice is provably (un)fair.

Tradefortress - Member "Tradefortress" added to the list as per his own request, enjoy your time here you glorious winged douche.

BitcoinVideoCasino  - Fake statistical data as well.

Ripple - Pyramid scheme, homepage contains blatant lies, complete misrepresentation.

Butterflylabs (BFL) - Apparently manufactured the ASICS and mined with them themselves instead of shipping them until it no longer became profitable, owner is an ex-con (and not the good kind either) who has been convicted of mail fraud, forum members inaba and BFL_Josh are fellow fraudsters.

Cryoniks - This sums everything up nicely:


BitBet.us - Seemingly innocent but will scam and make money off large bets, forum member MPOE-PR is related to the scam, SatoshiDice is also related to the people who run the scam. The group of people that run the scam are mostly trashy, condescending and prideful for a reason that shall remain a mystery to us. It appears that this is the reason why the reputation of SatoshiDice was questioned by other forum members like "mem".

Bitbox.mx - Fraudulent, deceptive Terms of Service are no excuse to hold on to the funds of the customers while demanding official documents out of the blue. The customer should be able to get a refund in case he refuses to provide the documents. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227121.0


I will occasionally dig up all the trash on casinos/services and post it here publicly.

EDIT: New websites are popping up everyday, the general rule of thumb is stay clear of any non-vet website and apply common sense.

Strike Sapphire is scamer... He baned me cause with the free bonus $10 i win up $160 and withdraw... He asked me for deposit the money again ofering me a bonus, etc, when i decided to not deposit the money again, he ban me... Lol, his a scamer.

[tmbp]

feel free to add insanity dice to the list of legit sites, we are probably fair.

I will add you next to other probably fair dice sites such as primedice.

[Bitcoin Scammer]

Keep this going!!

Here I will present the current list of ongoing scams in order to protect the community, it has been stripped of all non essentials to keep the community safe from scams, I will hold all Bitcoin businesses for full responsibility:

Legend:
Red - Most likely a scam.
Orange - Moderate chance of being a scam.
Yellow - Small chance of being a scam.
Blue - Was initially listed as scam, was whitelisted after review.

: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation <an insurance scam>

origin unknown
First Known Use: 1963

Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus".

Strike Sapphire - Bad attempt at hedging against USD, they make a profit on their own rates. Owner is rude, no provable fairness. - Owner has contacted me, explained the situation and seemed to be respectful and honest, upon further reviewing StrikeSapphire I no longer list it as small chance of being a scam

Casinobit - Bets are delayed occasionally, some bets have invalid TXIDs owner has contacted me and explained the situation, the results are apparently streamed live now regardless of the feed.

Satoshidice - IS based on irrefutable mathematics that behave in an honest manner under normal conditions, sometimes bets are delayed by 24 hours giving the house the window to bruteforce a hash that will be the most beneficial, the house or anyone else that receives access to the secret list ahead of time can submit selective bets and get a significantly lower house edge.

Almost anyone associated with them speaks in an intellectually appalling language and is full of unapologetic loose cannons, except Voorhees himself.

Wheresyouredge.com - Pending review, DO NOT trust ANY bitcoin poker sites, there are currently none that I know of that use provable fairness.

MPEX - Despite the fact that the security never actually stole or scammed members the owner Mircea Popescu is a disgusting person that uses the term "nigger" on his blog while also constantly putting people down and generally being a complete snob. Lied multiple times about being the owner of a successful company, if it wasn't for Satoshidice releasing stock in MPEX this person would be selling potatoes somewhere in Romania.

SealsWithClubs - Uses ancient software, game-play connection is not secure.

SatoshiMines - Source of entropy is bad, the house can easily bruteforce the hash to make you win/lose. Including "random" non-preselected strings in the hash render the whole process insecure.

Bcpoker.eu - The lack of professionalism of the operators of this website is astonishing NO-ONE should play for real money on this website, I discourage any n00b for opening "mah vary own cas1no" and clearly people keep ignoring my advice as I see new entries of people looking to open a Bitcoin casino for a couple hundred bucks popping up on a daily basis. The owners are known to leak personal information. It is apparently registered by a teenager under the fake name "Adam Gergo Kovacs" as well as a fake address.

Bit777 - Misleading, calling themselves "industry leading" , not provably fair whatsoever, lack of verifiables of the actual bets processed, can potentially over-inflate their own statistics, a PHP Microsoft IIS/7.5 bot decides whether you win or lose. Encourages disgusting people to post sexually explicit posts that aim to lower the social status or attempt to make other members feel ashamed.

   
Bitcoin-Roulette.com - Shamelessly stole the CSS off another website, doesn't look legit at all, seem to have ripped multiple people off.

PrimeDice - Popped up a week ago, claiming to have totaled 11,081 BTC in wagers as of 26-May-2013, domain wasn't even indexed as of a couple days ago. NO verifiables of ANY bets whatsoever. I am going to assume that a fraction of the bets is actually real and others are fakes. Backed up by co-scammers like forum member Zaih that doesn't admit to be associated directly. The 28 page thread is mostly spam between 4 members associated with the scam.

Shilling has been shown to take place in the official thread, this will be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

As of now, Primedice is provably (un)fair.

Tradefortress - Member "Tradefortress" added to the list as per his own request, enjoy your time here you glorious winged douche.

BitcoinVideoCasino  - Fake statistical data as well.

Ripple - Pyramid scheme, homepage contains blatant lies, complete misrepresentation.

Butterflylabs (BFL) - Apparently manufactured the ASICS and mined with them themselves instead of shipping them until it no longer became profitable, owner is an ex-con (and not the good kind either) who has been convicted of mail fraud, forum members inaba and BFL_Josh are fellow fraudsters.

Cryoniks - This sums everything up nicely:


BitBet.us - Seemingly innocent but will scam and make money off large bets, forum member MPOE-PR is related to the scam, SatoshiDice is also related to the people who run the scam. The group of people that run the scam are mostly trashy, condescending and prideful for a reason that shall remain a mystery to us. It appears that this is the reason why the reputation of SatoshiDice was questioned by other forum members like "mem".

Bitbox.mx - Fraudulent, deceptive Terms of Service are no excuse to hold on to the funds of the customers while demanding official documents out of the blue. The customer should be able to get a refund in case he refuses to provide the documents. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227121.0


I will occasionally dig up all the trash on casinos/services and post it here publicly.

EDIT: New websites are popping up everyday, the general rule of thumb is stay clear of any non-vet website and apply common sense.

Strike Sapphire is scamer... He baned me cause with the free bonus $10 i win up $160 and withdraw... He asked me for deposit the money again ofering me a bonus, etc, when i decided to not deposit the money again, he ban me... Lol, his a scamer.

[tmbp]

Keep this going!!

Will review Strike Sapphire as well.

Strike Sapphire is scamer... He baned me cause with the free bonus $10 i win up $160 and withdraw... He asked me for deposit the money again ofering me a bonus, etc, when i decided to not deposit the money again, he ban me... Lol, his a scamer.

Do you have a thread for this scam accusation?

[Insanity]

feel free to add insanity dice to the list of legit sites, we are probably fair.

I will add you next to other probably fair dice sites such as primedice.

Thanks man, if you need any help feel free to e-mail me at blobsrs@gmail.com

[DiamondCardz]

Keep this going!!

You just supported this thread?

Right, welcome to mine and around, I don't know, 99% of the people who frequent this forum section's shitlist.

[MPOE-PR]

Keep this going!!

You just supported this thread?

Right, welcome to mine and around, I don't know, 99% of the people who frequent this forum section's shitlist.

I think he was on more than half of those shitlists from before anyway.

[Bitcoin Scammer]

I enjoy the list! I want it to grow because it pisses scammers off!   

[ElectricMucus]

It's scams all the way down.

[DiamondCardz]

Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.

I lol'd, this "evidence" is due to you being mad about dooglus, well, TALKING on this thread. Lmao

[dooglus]

Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.

I lol'd, this "evidence" is due to you being mad about dooglus, well, TALKING on this thread. Lmao

What is "proof of statistical data"?  What can I provide to prove the data?

The site has been up 4 weeks and handled bets of over half a million BTC.  Don't you think if it was a scam someone would have actually made a complaint about it by now?  But no, we've handled over 32 million bets and had no complaints.

"SatoshiDice is the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe" and they've processed less than 6 million bets in well over a year.  In our first month we've handled more bets than the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe.

Still think it's a scam?

[tmbp]

Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.

I lol'd, this "evidence" is due to you being mad about dooglus, well, TALKING on this thread. Lmao

What is "proof of statistical data"?  What can I provide to prove the data?

The site has been up 4 weeks and handled bets of over half a million BTC.  Don't you think if it was a scam someone would have actually made a complaint about it by now?  But no, we've handled over 32 million bets and had no complaints.

"SatoshiDice is the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe" and they've processed less than 6 million bets in well over a year.  In our first month we've handled more bets than the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe.

Still think it's a scam?

Thing is that you have absolute no data to prove your claim, nada, SatoshiDice on the other hand, has data to prove every single bet.

[DiamondCardz]

Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.

I lol'd, this "evidence" is due to you being mad about dooglus, well, TALKING on this thread. Lmao

What is "proof of statistical data"?  What can I provide to prove the data?

The site has been up 4 weeks and handled bets of over half a million BTC.  Don't you think if it was a scam someone would have actually made a complaint about it by now?  But no, we've handled over 32 million bets and had no complaints.

"SatoshiDice is the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe" and they've processed less than 6 million bets in well over a year.  In our first month we've handled more bets than the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe.

Still think it's a scam?

Thing is that you have absolute no data to prove your claim, nada, SatoshiDice on the other hand, has data to prove every single bet.

The fuck? There is a log of every single bet...