KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:06:14 PM |
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I've noticed different exchanges behave differently with volatility for the same trading pair. In particular Bittrex seems to enlarge movements. Do the trading bots take such differences in behavior into account?
Most of the bots that have been developed work on traditional assets so are not sensitive to crypto exchange behavior. However, bots that we have developed or the one that might be developed in the future might try to benefit from these behavior. This is however not the case today.
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dimifi
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September 15, 2017, 09:10:12 PM |
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Okei joined bounty campain so i pretty confident with this project what will happen to the tokens after the crowdsale ends?
We intend to list those tokens on ideally 2 exchanges. Once done, you will be able to trade them first. Second, these tokens will generate regular income through the distribution of DAF tokens representing the 25% management fees charged to them for using bots. And third, if you like these DAF, you would have a privileged access to them when they are launch. So what will happen to the unsold tokens? Im guessing they will be burned. I haven't fount an answer in this thread. You are right, any unsold token would be burned so that token split would follow rules explained in our Whitepaper i like the part that unsold tokens would be burned ! When we can expect beta launch ?
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KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:10:45 PM |
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To give real service, you must add something which cannot be measured or bought with any kind of currency.
The service we intend to provide to NPX token holders are as follows: 1. participate in DAF development strategy 2. get DAF token as payment for their 85% share in performance fees allowing to build a portfolio overtime without spending a dime 3. getting an portfolio management tool from our platform to design an ad'hoc ETH stream and remodel their portfolio of DAF tokens 4. getting a privileged access to any future DAF launch If you think we can add more, we would be happy to consider
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KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:15:27 PM |
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looks very promising project. whats total supply of tokens and price of token?
We have set a min cap @25,000 ETH for having enough resources to kick start this project with a target @40,000 ETH. However, we have not capped our ICO at this level just in case we get much bigger support, which would enable us to be more ambitious regarding our development plans. The formal cap will be set @100,000 ETH with a hidden cap below to give an incentive for potential investors to join early as oppose to late in our ICO. We have decided to communicate on our needs in ETH as opposed to USD like everyone else do as we believe that's the right way to do it given our objectives to manage crypto assets. 25.000 eth isn't too much for soft cap? Now icos don't get funding same as before. Lots of project re-adjust their budget. If you have some big investors in your pocket to make a head start, that's ok. But if don't it will be hard do get. I don't want such a good project cancelled because of high expectations. So, given your budget estimate based on the 40k eth. What will not be done in case you only reach 25k eth? We would be more constrained in our hiring program should we only reach 25k ETH and in our ability to develop new algo and acquire necessary data which is our raw material. We might also restrict the jurisdictions into which we could launch DAFs and hence reduce or delay potential future development. But for the moment, we are driving this project with much less money so I am sure we would still make it
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Elkmar
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September 15, 2017, 09:16:37 PM |
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I've noticed different exchanges behave differently with volatility for the same trading pair. In particular Bittrex seems to enlarge movements. Do the trading bots take such differences in behavior into account?
Most of the bots that have been developed work on traditional assets so are not sensitive to crypto exchange behavior. However, bots that we have developed or the one that might be developed in the future might try to benefit from these behavior. This is however not the case today. There was not any try on cryptocurrencies with a trading bot in development to test some algorythms ?
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KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:19:12 PM |
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The proper projects still get their funding, it's just that now there are so many ones. 6 months ago there were like 2 per month, no it's 10 per week. Of course they can't all sell out (fast). And most of them are shit anyway.
I think with the right amount of marketing NapoleonX its project is good enough to receive the amount of funding they need.
More like 10 a day . And a lot of shitty onces! NapoleonX is getting the right marketing, showing there faces on expos, interviews on youtube, ... Dont like the design of the website but its a great platform Hope they will hire a great designer team. I'm a huge fan of there idea! We know that our design has not been the best one, but we have wanted to really focus on the underlying strategies, our business vision and start developing bricks of our future platform. We know that design is important and we will spend on this front once we have raised our min 25k ETH target.
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KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:24:23 PM |
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I've noticed different exchanges behave differently with volatility for the same trading pair. In particular Bittrex seems to enlarge movements. Do the trading bots take such differences in behavior into account?
Actually, after following the trades on Bittrex closely I think there are already bots active there. During the rally much higher prices, on the way back down from a peak systematically lower prices than other exchanges. Would be interesting to see NaPoleonX go head to head with them. The bots we have developed are very low frequency and might not react like the one that are already in place. We have developed trend following bots on crypto but we want to avoid over trading given the high trading cost. We also have a lot of algos on traditional assets where we would not suffer any such behavior. The idea that we have is to bring back performance generated in this traditional world back to the crypto universe which will also contribute to its development.
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KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:26:46 PM |
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I've noticed different exchanges behave differently with volatility for the same trading pair. In particular Bittrex seems to enlarge movements. Do the trading bots take such differences in behavior into account?
Actually, after following the trades on Bittrex closely I think there are already bots active there. During the rally much higher prices, on the way back down from a peak systematically lower prices than other exchanges. Would be interesting to see NaPoleonX go head to head with them. Bot/algo trading has been establised for years on Exchanges. On the smaller exchanges like Cryptopia they aren't that smart, they just put a few satoshi above or under your order. But on Bittrex they actually shape the market. You have different type of algos. Some are looking at the order book to front run or orientate market movement. Ours are more "long term" in nature and might be quite uncorrelated to the ones you are describing
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KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:29:08 PM |
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Hi, i didnt get the part where it states that the bots are running on gas and 85% of it, is paid to the token holders who selected the bots.
Could you clarify what the gas is in your psroject? some kind of performance value? Or just a cost you define?
Quite impressed by your team btw.
Good question. While reading the whitepaper I was confused with the gas here. I was thinking about either it is the ether gas or it is the coin GAS, but I think it can't be. I am not sure but i understand it like these: When bot makes a move for you, it gets a little fee everytime. And they are calling it GAS. But of course they will explain it without doubt. You can see your TX fee (gas limit * gas price) in ETH & USD when you search for your transaction on etherscan.io. This is not a TX fee that MyEtherWallet, or any other service provider, receives. This fee is paid to miners for mining transactions, putting them into blocks, and securing the blockchain. The total cost of a transaction (the "TX fee") is the Gas Limit * Gas Price. Typically, if someone just says "Gas", they are talking about the "Gas Limit". I always though GAS was a small amount of ether, also called gwei. Is that what investors are getting? No there is definitively a confusion with our Gas concept and we will change it. Here the gas = 25% of positive performance paid by the DAFs for having the right to use a performing bots. This is some kind of energy that is requested to make the DAF work. Any idea about rebranding is welcome. Someone mentioned oil. My vote for a new term would be Spark . A Spark to activate the trading bots Great to see you guys are engaging so well with the community btw. We might even launch a contest for replacing this "gas" term. Need to think about a prize money o make it fun.
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Korsakopf
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September 15, 2017, 09:36:46 PM |
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Do you happen to have in hand some data you can show related with current trading situation of BTC ? Is there any bot trading it at the moment?
We have been relatively busy on the project and are more focus on building the various bricks of our platform. Coming from the investment world, and given our strong technical team that has worked on trading desk, implementing the bots should not be the most difficult part I'm also interested in seeing this, even if it's just a sneak peak at some cryto trades a bot has suggested. As far as ICO's are concerned i always really like to see as much of a alpha/beta/demo of the product as possible
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KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:40:23 PM |
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Okei joined bounty campain so i pretty confident with this project what will happen to the tokens after the crowdsale ends?
We intend to list those tokens on ideally 2 exchanges. Once done, you will be able to trade them first. Second, these tokens will generate regular income through the distribution of DAF tokens representing the 25% management fees charged to them for using bots. And third, if you like these DAF, you would have a privileged access to them when they are launch. So what will happen to the unsold tokens? Im guessing they will be burned. I haven't fount an answer in this thread. You are right, any unsold token would be burned so that token split would follow rules explained in our Whitepaper i like the part that unsold tokens would be burned ! When we can expect beta launch ? We intend to launch our index publishing that will host our bot strategies within the next few weeks but before ICO. We are busy with a lot of marketing touring all around Europe to present our project to conferences so bear with us please. It is almost ready but are trying to add some features for some kind of whahou effect. Just rememebr that we don't have proper designer with us though.
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KryptoKings (OP)
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September 15, 2017, 09:42:54 PM |
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I've noticed different exchanges behave differently with volatility for the same trading pair. In particular Bittrex seems to enlarge movements. Do the trading bots take such differences in behavior into account?
Most of the bots that have been developed work on traditional assets so are not sensitive to crypto exchange behavior. However, bots that we have developed or the one that might be developed in the future might try to benefit from these behavior. This is however not the case today. There was not any try on cryptocurrencies with a trading bot in development to test some algorythms ? Yes we have one that regularly switch from BTC to USD on a weekly basis and that has beaten a simple buy and hold position by more than 100% on an annual basis with a dozens or so trade per year.
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helloal
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September 15, 2017, 10:43:34 PM |
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I'm a bit late to the party - just discovered this project. After reading about it, it has definitely caught my attention; I think that there is a large need for a proven and effective trading service. Many people don't have the time/motivation to day-trading but still would want more consistent returns on their crypto investments. I've also joined the signature campaign too.
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Trrrt
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September 15, 2017, 11:16:18 PM |
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Yes napoleonX is a great opportunity for people who haven't the time to manage all their invest or people with a lack of knowledge. They will start with a DAF with low risk on napoleonX, and they will generate an income. Its really nice. The project is very solid and the communication of the team is really huge, all questions are answered here.
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dimifi
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September 15, 2017, 11:21:53 PM |
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What Napoleonx have unique from other artificial intelligence exchange trading projects? i just found few others and interested in comparing qualitys of the projects
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tiger5056
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September 15, 2017, 11:24:40 PM |
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are going to allow trading against commodity/index also?
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levyashin
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September 15, 2017, 11:36:02 PM |
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looks very promising project. whats total supply of tokens and price of token?
We have set a min cap @25,000 ETH for having enough resources to kick start this project with a target @40,000 ETH. However, we have not capped our ICO at this level just in case we get much bigger support, which would enable us to be more ambitious regarding our development plans. The formal cap will be set @100,000 ETH with a hidden cap below to give an incentive for potential investors to join early as oppose to late in our ICO. We have decided to communicate on our needs in ETH as opposed to USD like everyone else do as we believe that's the right way to do it given our objectives to manage crypto assets. 25.000 eth isn't too much for soft cap? Now icos don't get funding same as before. Lots of project re-adjust their budget. If you have some big investors in your pocket to make a head start, that's ok. But if don't it will be hard do get. I don't want such a good project cancelled because of high expectations. Part of marketing current efforts are targeting these big potential investors and if we were to get some we would communicate on this even though they might compete with smaller investors. And with current crypto crash, our target has been revised downwards in USD terms It's a good strategy, i am aware that the conferences that you are participating very prestigious. i hope you get it then. As a small investor, when the time come, i will make a contribituon
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FaYaAAa
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September 15, 2017, 11:36:53 PM |
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Do you have a working product or it is in development ?
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Voltaje
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September 16, 2017, 12:00:39 AM Last edit: September 16, 2017, 01:53:32 AM by Voltaje |
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Hello guys, Here I have the Spanish translation of the ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2181436.0 , feel free to go there and discuss the project, we will need the marketing after all . Can somebody tell me or help me in what is happening to my signature? I tried using the full member one, but it just doesn't work properly XD, you can see how bad it is. Do you have a working product or it is in development ?
They have a product in development, they already have algorithms and bots completely functional, but a beta platform, still not sure, let's wait for the response .
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imtiazmahmood
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September 16, 2017, 02:09:37 AM |
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Is there NaPoleonX have roadshows something like that. if they have then they sould make videos and picture and share on social media like youtube FB TW ETC. that is good more for this project.
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