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September 18, 2017, 01:08:40 AM
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Seemingly forgotten in this discussion: presales can also serve the purpose of providing enough funding to develop a Minimum Viable Product - MVP. If they can get that far, prove the concept can work in a practical demonstration, then they can justify raising more money in a formal ICO and get an actual product to market.
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September 18, 2017, 01:31:16 AM
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Powerledger had a very good presale, but I feel like their ICO is struggling now. That means the coins are very cheap now, because they distribute 140mio no matter how much money they raise. You can find more info here

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September 18, 2017, 03:36:25 AM
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presale is a pre-ico promotion step with more promotional bonus offers, this is effective if the project has a larger strategy and budget to convince its investors and partners if successful presale will result in high confidence from investors to engage in ico, but will be the opposite if pre- ico failed.

This is a nice and more transparent step in the promotion strategy.


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September 18, 2017, 03:52:07 AM
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presale is a pre-ico promotion step with more promotional bonus offers, this is effective if the project has a larger strategy and budget to convince its investors and partners if successful presale will result in high confidence from investors to engage in ico, but will be the opposite if pre- ico failed.

This is a nice and more transparent step in the promotion strategy.

presale is just testing for the ICO. if presale fails I think ICO will also fail but Im not saying if presale fails ICO will fail also. presale is just like building confidence on the investors.
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September 18, 2017, 03:52:35 AM
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Powerledger had a very good presale, but I feel like their ICO is struggling now. That means the coins are very cheap now, because they distribute 140mio no matter how much money they raise. You can find more info here

This explains to us how misleading results of pre-ICOs could get. More often than not, we are happily joining the ICOs of projects with a sold out pre-ICO. For many of us, this means the ICO could also be similarly easy sold out, like a replay of the pre-ICO. What we miss is the possibility that all the interested investors are already buying during the pre-ICO and no more investors left in the ICO. It is possible. But there are still so many other factors to consider.

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September 18, 2017, 04:21:48 AM
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I am part of a big project that is going to have an ICO and we decided to have a presale for several reasons. It is an opportunity for early supporters to get a good bonus and it is also very important for the project, to promote the main ICO. Once we have successfully executed an effective and secure presale process, investors can become more confident about the project and about the competence of the team. Besides, we will release a working demo of the platform between the presale and the main ICO. People that already know the team and that have been following the project since the beginning already have the confidence to contribute during the presale, before the release of the product, and for that, they should be rewarded with a bonus/better price. Afterwards, it will be easier for the general public to hear about the Auctus project and participate on the ICO with a lower risk, but no bonus.
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September 18, 2017, 04:44:10 AM
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presale is a pre-ico promotion step with more promotional bonus offers, this is effective if the project has a larger strategy and budget to convince its investors and partners if successful presale will result in high confidence from investors to engage in ico, but will be the opposite if pre- ico failed.

This is a nice and more transparent step in the promotion strategy.

presale is just testing for the ICO. if presale fails I think ICO will also fail but Im not saying if presale fails ICO will fail also. presale is just like building confidence on the investors.
i agree with you if presale succesed ico have been success.!
i think if invest in presale you get more coin. and cheaper for the price
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September 18, 2017, 05:00:35 AM
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What are some ICOs with super smart and successful presales?

If you go to altcoin announcements you can find some ICO's that offer presales!
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September 19, 2017, 08:54:09 AM
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What are some ICOs with super smart and successful presales?

If you go to altcoin announcements you can find some ICO's that offer presales!

Do they offer presales from the get go once the announce ANN, or they wait a few weeks. Just wondering.
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September 19, 2017, 08:56:41 AM
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Hey folks,

i am wondering what are the differences between presale we see that often and an ICO. why do companies run a presale mostly with higher benefits compared to the following ICO? do investors have to stick to some kind of conditions afterwards? (hold at least for x month?) i dont assume that because ppl sometimes gather, group up to collect the minimum needed in a certain presale and participate. so what is so special about presale?
Usually in Pre-sale a coin the price will be very cheap and the bonus is abundantly different with ICO when the price will be a bit expensive and bonus offered slightly.
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September 20, 2017, 11:03:30 AM
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Do we send the payment to the address in blockchain, or their company private address. Because it's pre ICO so if they don't program it in smart contract, or if they need to give "special" discount then maybe it's hard to write the smart contract?
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September 21, 2017, 07:08:52 AM
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ICO Presale or also known as Pre-ICO, is the token sale event that Blockchain enterprises run before the official crowdsale or ICO campaign goes live. The fund-raising targets for Pre-ICOs are often lower as compared to that of the main ICO and tokens are usually sold cheaper.

For the purposes of prudence, Pre-ICOs ideally make use of separate smart contracts from the main ICO event - This is informed by the need to avoid a mixture of Pre-ICO funds with the main ICO to enable proper and easy account reconciliation and audit.

Some projects run Pre-ICOs as a way to accrue funds to cater for the expenses incurred on the way to launching the main ICO. Some of the expenses include paid promo ads, strategic recruitment and meet-up costs to help whip up investor interests.
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September 21, 2017, 07:34:56 AM
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Hey folks,

i am wondering what are the differences between presale we see that often and an ICO. why do companies run a presale mostly with higher benefits compared to the following ICO? do investors have to stick to some kind of conditions afterwards? (hold at least for x month?) i dont assume that because ppl sometimes gather, group up to collect the minimum needed in a certain presale and participate. so what is so special about presale?
Usually in Pre-sale a coin the price will be very cheap and the bonus is abundantly different with ICO when the price will be a bit expensive and bonus offered slightly.

And that would be the one we should need to catch up if the project is good since we can earn for instant for the bunos given by the devs team by the time they implement their presale. And by presale bunos investors will doesn't need to worry about such lost on the first day of addition on the coin they've bought since the percentage of the bunos can give them already some profits eventhough the bounty hunters dump their bounty coins.
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September 21, 2017, 07:36:02 AM
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I would prefer a presale more than ICO's they are not the same, and pre sales happen on most of any kind of market around the world.
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September 21, 2017, 07:54:33 AM
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Hey folks,

i am wondering what are the differences between presale we see that often and an ICO. why do companies run a presale mostly with higher benefits compared to the following ICO? do investors have to stick to some kind of conditions afterwards? (hold at least for x month?) i dont assume that because ppl sometimes gather, group up to collect the minimum needed in a certain presale and participate. so what is so special about presale?

In almost most cases there aren't any after sale conditions.
Pre-sales are usually run for very short period (days to week) and the main point is to check what would be investors interest in particular project. And this is bringing additional bonus for early birds/investors.

I'm making almost of my ICO investment in pre-sale for biggest bonus.

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September 21, 2017, 08:19:55 AM
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Higher the Risk - Higher the Return

Lower the Risk - Lower the Return

It is simply as to how much you believe or willing to risk into a coin!
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September 21, 2017, 01:11:48 PM
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I think they are good for everyone.

The startup - gets early investments, publicity and a buzz about their coin / token. Also they will have money for expenses when launching the ICO, i.e. scaling of staff members, marketing budget etc. Have to remember not all companies are backed by loads of cash and maybe they are bootstrapping everything.

The users - Get more value for their early investments, get to talk about a product and see it grow. Also if you invest in the pre-sale then your investment already has made some money (as the price will have increased), once they launch it onto the market.
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September 21, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
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Hey folks,

i am wondering what are the differences between presale we see that often and an ICO. why do companies run a presale mostly with higher benefits compared to the following ICO? do investors have to stick to some kind of conditions afterwards? (hold at least for x month?) i dont assume that because ppl sometimes gather, group up to collect the minimum needed in a certain presale and participate. so what is so special about presale?
PreSale is just a tool for their promotions to sell tokens on PreSale with huge prizes over prizes or bonuses on ICO or token sale.
Presale determines the success of ICO.

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September 21, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
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Pre-sale is giving more guarantee than ICO.there is some ICO's we cant catch but on the pre-sale your relx and also they gave you extra bonusses but on the other hand if you invest during the ICO your money be not tradable for a month
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September 21, 2017, 02:00:19 PM
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Hey folks,

i am wondering what are the differences between presale we see that often and an ICO. why do companies run a presale mostly with higher benefits compared to the following ICO? do investors have to stick to some kind of conditions afterwards? (hold at least for x month?) i dont assume that because ppl sometimes gather, group up to collect the minimum needed in a certain presale and participate. so what is so special about presale?

Presales are coming with more bonus, which means if you want to dump your tokens after the ICO end, this will be much easier for you to sell them without lookin at the low price.
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