⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All

[Hamphser]

Op if really you do what you have said, I will be very happy from time being in the forum, I noticed that most of the casinos in the space have abused cryptocurrency by different means. The worst of them all is the one that they are not allowing winners of their games to withdraw their wins. If a gambler deposited money your casino and he wins, allow him to withdraw his wins why asking too much questions and at the end they would not pay him probably because he did a mistake in a document. If you allow him to deposit also allow him to withdraw whatever amount the person wins.

This is only happening into those non popular sites or platforms or gambling sites that we do have in the market but if you do stick around into those sites which are known and popular then it is really unlikely to happen and its true that whenever someone hits up some jackpot or get some huge multiplier then this is where questions been raised up and requirements which it might really be resulting into holding up your winnings which do really sucks as a winner.You cant assure whether you would really be getting your winnings as long you cant be able to provide on whats been asked then risks is always there.
There would be no assurance and this is why its better to stick on whats currently the best out there.

[TwitchySeal]

The 8048/JAZ license Stake claims to operate under clearly diversifies between the number of games played and the number of bets made:

Article 16

1. The license holder keeps a daily overview of the games of chance played, the number of times each game has been played, the bets made and the prize money achieved.

2. The data referred to in the first paragraph will be stored in a proper manner during the period that company data must be stored pursuant to the National Ordinance on Profit Tax 1940 (P.B. 1965, no. 58).

So if the Stake Statistics states below "Bets" the number of games (dealer hands) played instead of the number of bets made, then this is criminal!

Blackjack is one game.

Roulette is one game.

Blackjack and Roulette are two games.

If Bijan, Edward and Mladen believe they can scam and ignore me and everything will be fine, then they must be very naive!

Maybe you just suck at blackjack?  You obviously aren't capable of doing basic math which is required to play blackjack optimally.  

Try slots, or pretty much any other game so that your brain doesn't cost you so much money.

[BlackyJacky]

The 8048/JAZ license Stake claims to operate under clearly diversifies between the number of games played and the number of bets made:

Article 16

1. The license holder keeps a daily overview of the games of chance played, the number of times each game has been played, the bets made and the prize money achieved.

2. The data referred to in the first paragraph will be stored in a proper manner during the period that company data must be stored pursuant to the National Ordinance on Profit Tax 1940 (P.B. 1965, no. 58).

So if the Stake Statistics states below "Bets" the number of games (dealer hands) played instead of the number of bets made, then this is criminal!

Blackjack is one game.

Roulette is one game.

Blackjack and Roulette are two games.

What is stated below "Bets"?

[danadc]

Op if really you do what you have said, I will be very happy from time being in the forum, I noticed that most of the casinos in the space have abused cryptocurrency by different means. The worst of them all is the one that they are not allowing winners of their games to withdraw their wins. If a gambler deposited money your casino and he wins, allow him to withdraw his wins why asking too much questions and at the end they would not pay him probably because he did a mistake in a document. If you allow him to deposit also allow him to withdraw whatever amount the person wins.

This is only happening into those non popular sites or platforms or gambling sites that we do have in the market but if you do stick around into those sites which are known and popular then it is really unlikely to happen and its true that whenever someone hits up some jackpot or get some huge multiplier then this is where questions been raised up and requirements which it might really be resulting into holding up your winnings which do really sucks as a winner.You cant assure whether you would really be getting your winnings as long you cant be able to provide on whats been asked then risks is always there.
There would be no assurance and this is why its better to stick on whats currently the best out there.

It is very true, when they are casinos that their reputation is not good or that it is a new casino these things can happen, but one day it happened to me in a mid-range casino that I registered and that I deposited, I almost never deposit because it scares me when They are casinos that have no reputation or are neutral, but I don't know why I did it, and I was playing well, but suddenly things didn't go well and when I won I couldn't withdraw, it turns out that they told me in the support that I had to do 10x to withdraw and at once I told myself that I lost the money.

[TwitchySeal]

The 8048/JAZ license Stake claims to operate under clearly diversifies between the number of games played and the number of bets made:

Article 16

1. The license holder keeps a daily overview of the games of chance played, the number of times each game has been played, the bets made and the prize money achieved.

2. The data referred to in the first paragraph will be stored in a proper manner during the period that company data must be stored pursuant to the National Ordinance on Profit Tax 1940 (P.B. 1965, no. 58).

So if the Stake Statistics states below "Bets" the number of games (dealer hands) played instead of the number of bets made, then this is criminal!

Blackjack is one game.

Roulette is one game.

Blackjack and Roulette are two games.

What is stated below "Bets"?

What is below the top of your skull?

[klidex]

Op if really you do what you have said, I will be very happy from time being in the forum, I noticed that most of the casinos in the space have abused cryptocurrency by different means. The worst of them all is the one that they are not allowing winners of their games to withdraw their wins. If a gambler deposited money your casino and he wins, allow him to withdraw his wins why asking too much questions and at the end they would not pay him probably because he did a mistake in a document. If you allow him to deposit also allow him to withdraw whatever amount the person wins.

This is only happening into those non popular sites or platforms or gambling sites that we do have in the market but if you do stick around into those sites which are known and popular then it is really unlikely to happen and its true that whenever someone hits up some jackpot or get some huge multiplier then this is where questions been raised up and requirements which it might really be resulting into holding up your winnings which do really sucks as a winner.You cant assure whether you would really be getting your winnings as long you cant be able to provide on whats been asked then risks is always there.
There would be no assurance and this is why its better to stick on whats currently the best out there.

It is very true, when they are casinos that their reputation is not good or that it is a new casino these things can happen, but one day it happened to me in a mid-range casino that I registered and that I deposited, I almost never deposit because it scares me when They are casinos that have no reputation or are neutral, but I don't know why I did it, and I was playing well, but suddenly things didn't go well and when I won I couldn't withdraw, it turns out that they told me in the support that I had to do 10x to withdraw and at once I told myself that I lost the money.

It will be better for you next time if you want to try a new casino or a casino that doesn't have a good reputation yet, try to start depositing and playing with less money so you can just in case problems occur that you don't want regarding your withdrawal or funds. what's in the casino wallet doesn't make you worry too much or feel like you're losing money.
It might be lucky for you because your money is not really lost if it can still be withdrawn in stages up to 10x to be able to withdraw all the funds that are there.
The casino also seems to have a support team that is quite good because they want to provide information and details on how to withdraw the money you have. Because we can see that there are several casinos that have a support team that is quite bad and doesn't even want to respond to any problems. submitted by the user.

[BlackyJacky]

My Stake in-house Black Jack Statistics states that I lost 4,6% of my bets placed while the advertised house-edge is 0,5%!

Proof: https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR

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[Saint-loup]

My Stake in-house Black Jack Statistics states that I lost 4,6% of my bets placed while the advertised house-edge is 0,5%!

Proof: https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR

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Why don't you open a thread on this matter instead of posting here, I don't think players eventually experiencing the same issue will bother to look at a thread dealing with the Crypto Gambling Foundation. You claim to have played around 180 000 hands but when it was precisely? During the very last months, or over several years? If a bug has happened several years ago, it can been fixed now, and it wouldn't be possible to spot it now. In addition a game can be mathematically provably fair but having a lowest RTP than announced because of its rules for example. But as TwitchySeal said, at Blackjack the 99.5% RTP is only achievable if you apply the basic strategy, otherwise it's way lower.

[BlackyJacky]

Why don't you open a thread on this matter instead of posting here, I don't think players eventually experiencing the same issue will bother to look at a thread dealing with the Crypto Gambling Foundation. You claim to have played around 180 000 hands but when it was precisely? During the very last months, or over several years? If a bug has happened several years ago, it can been fixed now, and it wouldn't be possible to spot it now. In addition a game can be mathematically provably fair but having a lowest RTP than announced because of its rules for example. But as TwitchySeal said, at Blackjack the 99.5% RTP is only achievable if you apply the basic strategy, otherwise it's way lower.

Because this issue is related to provably fair, additionally Stunna is the owner and operator of Stake.

So it is very well addressed here.

[TheQuin]

Why don't you open a thread on this matter instead of posting here, I don't think players eventually experiencing the same issue will bother to look at a thread dealing with the Crypto Gambling Foundation. You claim to have played around 180 000 hands but when it was precisely? During the very last months, or over several years? If a bug has happened several years ago, it can been fixed now, and it wouldn't be possible to spot it now. In addition a game can be mathematically provably fair but having a lowest RTP than announced because of its rules for example. But as TwitchySeal said, at Blackjack the 99.5% RTP is only achievable if you apply the basic strategy, otherwise it's way lower.

Because this issue is related to provably fair, additionally Stunna is the owner and operator of Stake.

So it is very well addressed here.

Wrong yet again. It's related to you not understanding provably fair and being incapable of comprehending any of the answers you are given that explain it. The thread isn't even about provably fair it's about what the CGF is doing to promote it (nothing for at least 3 years). The fact that the same person posted the thread doesn't make something else they own the subject of the thread. By making that false assertion you have unwittingly admitted your purpose here. You are not asking questions about the CGF you are trying to harass Stunna.

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What is stated below "Bets"?

What is below the top of your skull?

I can't be sure but it's a toss-up between a lump of turd and just void space. Apart from demonstrating a complete inability to understand anything, another giveaway is the length of time spent spamming this thread. How long it takes someone to realise that trolling is completely pointless and can't achieve anything is inversely proportional to their intelligence.

[BlackyJacky]

I ask the administration of the Crypto Gambling Foundation how it is fair to lose 4,6% of the bets made while the advertised house edge is 0,5%?

[TheQuin]

I ask the administration of the Crypto Gambling Foundation how it is fair to lose 4,6% of the bets made while the advertised house edge is 0,5%?

You already know that they stopped posting in this dead thread 3 years ago. You have already asked that question countless times and they haven't replied. It has been explained to you countless times that isn't the topic of this thread.

So you have now confirmed this:

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What is below the top of your skull?

I can't be sure but it's a toss-up between a lump of turd and just void space. Apart from demonstrating a complete inability to understand anything, another giveaway is the length of time spent spamming this thread. How long it takes someone to realise that trolling is completely pointless and can't achieve anything is inversely proportional to their intelligence.

We are still yet to determine if it's the turd or just nothing. Whichever it is certainly isn't capable of coming to the obvious conclusion that they aren't going to reply here and you are wasting your time spamming the same dumb question over and over again.

[TheQuin]

Bump

This is @BlackyJackyCan'tCountTo21's daily routine. Wake up and bump his thick skull into a brick wall. The turd/void space inside that skull is incapable of processing all information so he'll wake up tomorrow and do the same thing again.

[Hispo]

Bump

This is @BlackyJackyCan'tCountTo21's daily routine. Wake up and bump his thick skull into a brick wall. The turd/void space inside that skull is incapable of processing all information so he'll wake up tomorrow and do the same thing again.

I could be wrong but I do not think house edge has a strong mathematical relation (in a form of function) with the gambling itself, and mathematically one can only reach the house edge if the number of rolls/plays tends to infinity. It is what in calculus we call, "limits"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limit_(mathematics)

For example, if I play coin toss the probability of me losing would be 50%. Right?
But if I toss the coin three times and I win all of them, that does not mean the house edge is 100%.

I would need to toss the coin hundreds of times and yet the result can be different from 50%, but closer to the actual house edge.

Said in a different way:

The limit of the house edge is 0.5 when the number of coins tosses tends to infinity.

[BlackyJacky]

The house edge is reached after 1 million bets.

But based on the law of larger numbers, the more attempts you do the lower is the possible deviation from the expected outcome.

And after 180,000 bets, the possible deviation is already pretty low and much much lower than the 4,1% deviation my Statistics state.

[tusandii]

And after 180,000 bets, the possible deviation is already pretty low and much much lower than the 4,1% deviation my Statistics state.

Reached 180,000 stakes?
Isn't 180,000 a lot and a large number of bets, Who will reach up to 180,000 bets.
Maybe there is, but I don't think many gamblers get that many bets.
However, what you said seems to be true, the bigger the bet amount the gambler gets, the smaller the deviation will be. But it's actually more difficult.

[BCH.games]

Hi,

We're a 3 years old crypto gambling operator called BCH.games.
We accept 80+ coins and processed close to 2 billion bets so far.
We are rated excellent on truspilot and all our games are provably fair.

What is the process to join the fundation?

Thanks!

[Hispo]

Hi,

We're a 3 years old crypto gambling operator called BCH.games.
We accept 80+ coins and processed close to 2 billion bets so far.
We are rated excellent on truspilot and all our games are provably fair.

What is the process to join the fundation?

Thanks!

Hello.
I am not a representative of theirs, but I believe that the logical steps to follow would be to check their webpage, which it has already been mentioned in the original post.

Once you are there in the webpage, you can try to start an inquiry through an email with them, in case you would like to get a reply through a different communication channel, you could also try to send a Private message to Stunna or any official member associated to him here in the forum. They may give you more information about the foundation and its current state.

[John Abraham]

At first, I thought it was a new thread that got some decent replies. But then I saw it was created back in 2017. Guess what? Six years running since the thread was created, and I can see only a few numbers of websites were verified by https://cryptogambling.org/. I don't know why the numbers are not increasing after passing a few years. Only fourteen websites were verified by them, while a couple is under the same ownership. Stake and Primedice, Onehash and Cyberdice, Bitkong, Simpledice and LuckyDice under the same ownership. So, seven of them come from three owners. If I am not wrong, Onehash announced they wouldn't continue their service. After six years of creation, Only fourteen websites have been verified, which is somewhat scarry.

[BlackyJacky]

At first, I thought it was a new thread that got some decent replies. But then I saw it was created back in 2017. Guess what? Six years running since the thread was created, and I can see only a few numbers of websites were verified by https://cryptogambling.org/. I don't know why the numbers are not increasing after passing a few years. Only fourteen websites were verified by them, while a couple is under the same ownership. Stake and Primedice, Onehash and Cyberdice, Bitkong, Simpledice and LuckyDice under the same ownership. So, seven of them come from three owners. If I am not wrong, Onehash announced they wouldn't continue their service. After six years of creation, Only fourteen websites have been verified, which is somewhat scarry.

Yes, there is definitely something odd with the Crypto Gambling Foundation!

However, I was fallen into their trap!