⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All

[adpinbr]

Online gambling is good, to who is very familiar to online gaming activities, as a gambler If you know much about gaming online, you can likewise go into online gambling activities and I have noticed that it is fair enough for those playing games online. I also want to advise those who are playing games like Scrabble online against some opponents. It is also good for you too. Look into gambling online if you are into gambling or you gamble physically it is good for you to move into gambling online.

[BlackyJacky]

2 months after the 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. forwarded my compensation demand to the Stake alleged "Legal Department" and the Stake managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V., they still have not answered!

How on earth can you run a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and ignore the request by your license issuer?

Is it because Stake is managed by two RuneScape players and a chat moderator?  

[slydexic]

I have attempted to reach out to Crypto Gambling Foundation at the provided admin@ address as listed on the foundation's website, however, the email address is returns a error message relating to the mailbox not being set up. Please let me know the best way to go about contacting the foundation (Matter relating to a transactional issue of an accredited member's casino operating under the foundation's strict rules of conduct/morals/transparency not being remedied).

TLDR: FOUNDATION EMAIL DOWN - MESSAGES RETURNED W/ ERROR

[BlackyJacky]

I am a victim of their provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and can inform you that the Crypto Gambling Foundation is not reachable!

[TwitchySeal]

I am a victim of their provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and can inform you that the Crypto Gambling Foundation is not reachable!

No you're an idiot that (among many other mistakes) forgot to factor in the fact that blackjack pays 3-2 when you did your calculations that you claim are proof the game is rigged but in reality is just nonsense.

But you already know this.

[BlackyJacky]

Stunna was here on February 25, 2024 and edited the opening post of his Stake.com thread, but decided to ignore his Crypto Gambling Foundation thread, even though cryptogambling.org is well visible mentioned in the opening post!

Let us see how far he will come with his criminal energy?

[slydexic]

Stunna was here on February 25, 2024 and edited the opening post of his Stake.com thread, but decided to ignore his Crypto Gambling Foundation thread, even though cryptogambling.org is well visible mentioned in the opening post!

Let us see how far he will come with his criminal energy?

I for one have zero interest in seeing him come, let alone taking measurement of it after the fact... Please don't include me in that, even in your thoughts.

BUMP - Need a way to contact the foundation. To date, I have contacted via email the foundation (bounced back), posted to this thread (no reply), sent message to the foundation originator (hasn't been online / no reply).

[slydexic]

Figured I wold make another attempt contacting the foundation via their own forums, but they appear to been down hard.

Is anyone else having trouble accessing the crypto gambling foundation's forums ? ( http://forum.cryptogambling.org/)

My persistence in contacting the foundation is due to one of their member casinos never providing me with a purchase (specifically, a purchase was made for a license, yet no license has been provided)

[BlackyJacky]

Their forum is not reachable!

One of their member casinos sold you a license?

Which casino sold you a license, what license did they sell you and how much did you pay?

[TwitchySeal]

Stunna was here on February 25, 2024 and edited the opening post of his Stake.com thread, but decided to ignore his Crypto Gambling Foundation thread, even though cryptogambling.org is well visible mentioned in the opening post!

Let us see how far he will come with his criminal energy?

The criminal energy is coming from you.  Luckily it's dumb criminal energy.

[slydexic]

Their forum is not reachable!

One of their member casinos sold you a license?

Which casino sold you a license, what license did they sell you and how much did you pay?

Yes, Bustabit sold "licenses", but when going to sell my business through a broker, they wanted to check all paperwork and have it reviewed by a lawyer. All I have to show them is a "nothing burger" which is a text file they put on their website:

bustabit.com/license.txt is the link to the text file I'm referring to.

The cost for the "license" was 2 bitcoins per site (Almost $140k as I am posting right now)

I have spoken to a lawyer, and I've been told that legally I have absolutely nothing, and the original writer of the code has legal rights to require the discontinuation of the code at any time. Legally, the code is copyrighted, and the only thing that I'm entitled to is to read the code, not use it commercially, not modify it as my own work, not modify it proprietorially... I can't blame my broker's buyer for not wanting anything to do with it. I've had some less than ideal things happen in the past couple of years

I thought about it for awhile, then I posted publically to bustabit, they said I should have asked for what I needed at the time of purchase. Time of purchase is still now, because time of purchase means not only when you pay for something, but until you receive something (which I've not received to this date). I offered to surrender the domain name (that has value, and I personally paid for) in order to facilitate my bitcoin being returned. In short, I could transfer the domain to them, they could then have control over it / do whatever they wish to do with it... Then remove the domain name from the list they have in their text file. They refused to refund me, not even partially (although, especially at this point I won't be accepting anything less than what I paid initially)... I really thought they wouldn't want the refusal to be so public. But, I Think maybe the issue is just too complex and someone skimming the forums doesn't realize how big I've been wronged here. In fact, there is 32 domains that paid these license fees and were never given a license.

I have spoken with a lawyer, I just don't agree with the way they want to go about it (Reporting to authorities that way they did was criminal in nature, and then receiving settlement from the subsequent closing / seizing of the entity ... I feel like its snitching but I am not seeing another way if the foundation is not able to be contacted, and the Bustabit is directly refusing, the crime is in fact large enough they will open a case that won't close until it is settled) ... There's other issues with it too, like if they go in there and seize things, no one is going to get their funds unless they verify themselves, and maybe some of those people are invested less than legally in the United States and then I'd be the a-hole that caused someone even bigger losses ... its just disguisting to me as some days I see their site making many more times what I wish to be refunded for a purchase never received. Pure greed at its worst

I think I'll just ask the community what to do in the bustabit thread, and at least let them know of the possibility of the crime being reported which would allow them to remove their investments, etc. It sounded like it was a lengthy process anyway and could take as long as 3 years even... I'm open to any thoughts, ideas, suggestions, etc here...

[leomedina]

I have spoken to a lawyer, and I've been told that legally I have absolutely nothing, and the original writer of the code has legal rights to require the discontinuation of the code at any time.

Could you please have your lawyer contact me on leo@bustabit.com and reference the details of the sold license? I will happily, free of any additional charges, work with your lawyer to provide all the guarantees you or your broker require (i.e. signing the necessary contracts, permissions, licenses, etc.).

[BlackyJacky]

I thought you have purchased a Crypto Gambling Foundation license.

Why do you believe the CGF is liable for the issue you have with Bustabit?

The CGF only claims that they have evaluated the provably fair algorithm built into these providers platform to be true and fair.

They do not claim that they have verified the operator as such.

[BlackyJacky]

3 months after the 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. forwarded my compensation demand to the Stake alleged "Legal Department" and the Stake managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V., they still have not answered!

How on earth can you run a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and ignore the request by your license issuer?

Is it because Stake is managed by two RuneScape players and a chat moderator?  

[TwitchySeal]

3 months after the 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. forwarded my compensation demand to the Stake alleged "Legal Department" and the Stake managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V., they still have not answered!

How on earth can you run a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and ignore the request by your license issuer?

Is it because Stake is managed by two RuneScape players and a chat moderator?  

That's because your complaint is literally just nonsense.  The math you did that your accusation is based on is just wrong in so many different ways.  It's as if you stopped learning math at 7 or 8 years old and think with enough confidence you can just fake it.

[JollyGood]

Unfortunately, you were not the owner of Bustabit when the 2 BTC was paid for the licence but are having to deal with something from the legacy. It is very good to see you are continuing a high level of customer services in the same manner that the previous owner/operator did.

Keeping that aside, I have some reservations about the claim being made about the licence. Regardless of the background issues he states he is going through, it seems the claim is being made because he wants to re-sell the licence back and receive the same payment (in BTC) that it was purchased for. Failing that, the secondary plan to validate the licence is the next best thing. By not having a written contract clearly stating the definitions, it was probably going to cause issues later one day.

It will be interesting to see the next update.

I have spoken to a lawyer, and I've been told that legally I have absolutely nothing, and the original writer of the code has legal rights to require the discontinuation of the code at any time.

Could you please have your lawyer contact me on leo@bustabit.com and reference the details of the sold license? I will happily, free of any additional charges, work with your lawyer to provide all the guarantees you or your broker require (i.e. signing the necessary contracts, permissions, licenses, etc.).

[BlackyJacky]

4 months after the 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. forwarded my compensation demand to the Stake alleged "Legal Department" and the Stake managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V., they still have not answered!

How on earth can you run a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and ignore the request by your license issuer?

Is it because Stake is managed by two RuneScape players and a chat moderator?  

[TwitchySeal]

4 months after the 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. forwarded my compensation demand to the Stake alleged "Legal Department" and the Stake managing director Xecutive Corporate Management B.V., they still have not answered!

How on earth can you run a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and ignore the request by your license issuer?

Is it because Stake is managed by two RuneScape players and a chat moderator?  

That's because your complaint is literally just nonsense.

You've crying on this forum about being cheated for 17 months now without convincing anyone of anything other than that you're a loser that sucks at math and therefore blackjack.

[BlackyJacky]

On December 7, 2023, I have sent the below email to the Curacao Gaming Control Board

I contact you because you are tasked with the supervision of the online gaming sector.
 
I ask you to intervene against the criminal crypto currency online casino operation stake.com which publicly claims to be operated by Medium Rare N.V.
 
Their in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and I unjustifiably lost BTC worth around 30,000 USD (more info and proof see below).
 
They also do not fulfill Article 16 of the 8048/JAZ license:
 
Quote: "1. The license holder keeps a daily overview of the games of chance played, the number of times each game has been played, the bets made and the prize money achieved.

2. The data referred to in the first paragraph will be stored in a proper manner during the period that company data must be stored pursuant to the National Ordinance on Profit Tax 1940 (P.B. 1965, no. 58)."
 
I asked complaints@stake.com to send me my daily overview of the number of Black Jack hands I played, the bets made and the prize money achieved, but they did not send it.
 
 
Below is proof that the Stake in-house Black Jack system is rigged!
 
Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)

B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.
 
 
Awaiting your reply

After 6 months!!! they answered now the following

Dear Sir / Madam,

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board (GCB) is currently not able to handle your request.

The government of Curaçao is actively in the process of modernizing our gambling legislation and setting up our online gaming policies and procedures. We expect to be of more help as soon as the new legislation enters into force,  which we expect to be the case in the second half of 2024.

We kindly point out in advance that the GCB will not investigate all complaints. For example, the GCB does not have the authority to adjudicate disputes between the complainant and the accused party and to settle claims or award damages. Only if a complaint indicates a violation of the applicable regulations, the supervisory task of the GCB entails that this will be investigated further.

For the time being, we kindly suggest, that at all times you seek legal advice for any claims you may have vis-à-vis the license holder or other party or parties. We refer to the following page that contains a list of law firms established in Curacao that may be able to assist you:

http://www.dutchcaribbeanlegalportal.com/legal-contacts/law-firms?sid=102:Law-Firms-Curacao.

Sincerely,

Curaçao Gaming Control Board

Their website states that since March 2020, they have been tasked with the licensing for and supervision of the online gaming sector on behalf of the Minister of Finance.

But even though they are tasked with the supervision of the online gaming sector in Curacao, they do not enforce it, because otherwise Medium Rare N.V. would not be able to run a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system!

In their email they say:

"Only if a complaint indicates a violation of the applicable regulations, the supervisory task of the GCB entails that this will be investigated further."

And as a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system is a violation of the applicable regulations, they have to investigate this further.

[TwitchySeal]

And as a provably rigged in-house Black Jack system is a violation of the applicable regulations, they have to investigate this further.

It's not provably rigged, you're just an idiot that doesn't understand basic math.  One of many examples: you didn't even consider blackjack pays 3-2 in your calculation.  Even if the rest of your math were accurate (it's not - not even close) treating each hand as if the only possible outcomes are lose 1 bet, win 1 bet or tie is not how blackjack works.