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February 02, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
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This guy is the only guy who is being honest about this event on Youtube: https://youtu.be/L4jsM6dKxN8  He deserves some kudos for being an honest voice....we need to stand together against these types of scams if we want crypto to flourish.  The bait and switch was wrong!

obviously you don't know Russian language,ι have done much research on these people,Ruslan Tugushev  and Evgeny Gavrilin are real businessman,this is not first project they create,in this video Evgeny Gavrilin speaks to 20000 people  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFmNfxYOEU&t=2s
The situation is really beyond a fair and virtuous ICO, may be we can complain to SEC?
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February 02, 2018, 04:31:13 PM
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So you just basically ignored everything I've written.
Ok, no point to discuss something.


1 post newbie who is trying to buy veteran bitcointalk accounts,  Yes you should be ignored because you overlooked the reason why people are pissed in the first place. Go ahead and give your identity to complete strangers. Pretty sure nobody in the world will give a shit and at this point you are only arguing because you are mad about some random stranger on the internet calling you a 1 post newbie who is trying to buy veteran bitcointalk accounts. Other than that I have no clue at all why you would even be trying to defend this company and your $10 ICO investment, it is obvious they pulled the wool over everyone's eyes and it is obvious a lot of people are pissed. You are just shooting the messenger here 1 post newbie who is trying to buy veteran bitcointalk accounts

If you don't like being called 1 post newbie who is trying to buy veteran bitcointalk accounts then you probably shouldn't be a 1 post newbie who is trying to buy veteran bitcointalk accounts.

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February 02, 2018, 06:14:10 PM
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This guy is the only guy who is being honest about this event on Youtube: https://youtu.be/L4jsM6dKxN8  He deserves some kudos for being an honest voice....we need to stand together against these types of scams if we want crypto to flourish.  The bait and switch was wrong!

obviously you don't know Russian language,ι have done much research on these people,Ruslan Tugushev  and Evgeny Gavrilin are real businessman,this is not first project they create,in this video Evgeny Gavrilin speaks to 20000 people  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFmNfxYOEU&t=2s

Really?  Then why did they ALREADY use stolen identities on their landing page AND why are they holding our money for ransom-- it's our money in exchange for our identities?  <-- That's shady!  And, that's not even mentioning the fact that alienating the American markets through their unprofessional behavior will not help them in their goals of acquiring some of the Amazon market share.....They may be able to set their "store" up in Zimbabwe and Ukraine....But, a large portion of the consumers they are trying to reach are in the United States, so if you take those numbers out of their market speculation goals, then this project is dead on arrival anyway.  So, either your "real business men" are incompetent, or they are thieves....either way....everybody's losing on this.
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February 03, 2018, 07:51:15 AM
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This guy is the only guy who is being honest about this event on Youtube: https://youtu.be/L4jsM6dKxN8  He deserves some kudos for being an honest voice....we need to stand together against these types of scams if we want crypto to flourish.  The bait and switch was wrong!

obviously you don't know Russian language,ι have done much research on these people,Ruslan Tugushev  and Evgeny Gavrilin are real businessman,this is not first project they create,in this video Evgeny Gavrilin speaks to 20000 people  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFmNfxYOEU&t=2s

Really?  Then why did they ALREADY use stolen identities on their landing page AND why are they holding our money for ransom-- it's our money in exchange for our identities?  <-- That's shady!  And, that's not even mentioning the fact that alienating the American markets through their unprofessional behavior will not help them in their goals of acquiring some of the Amazon market share.....They may be able to set their "store" up in Zimbabwe and Ukraine....But, a large portion of the consumers they are trying to reach are in the United States, so if you take those numbers out of their market speculation goals, then this project is dead on arrival anyway.  So, either your "real business men" are incompetent, or they are thieves....either way....everybody's losing on this.

Ok, I understand,your problem is KYC,    kyc is good Cool Cool Cool look here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer
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February 03, 2018, 09:45:41 AM
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when will the tokens be transferable? i know after the KYC process... but when? february, march, December???

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February 03, 2018, 01:58:03 PM
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Guys, intersting idea. But several questions which for some reasons are not covered:
1) Why are you not considering the competitors (Amazon etc.) when evaluating market potential? When evaluating the market why are you take all the e-commerce market and not discounting it on % of the market which could be ready for using tokens for payments? Absolutely sure that tokens are a limiting issue.
2) You say that the token will rise in price. But don't you think that think raise is limited by the price of "fiat based" marketplaces? When it will be on the same level of pricing shops will definetaly switch to developed and established marketplaces.
I saw the demo version of Storiqa marketplace. Now it's very poor. Skilled programmer can create it couple of days Undecided Propose to show the product to the audience when it's solid.
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February 03, 2018, 02:12:17 PM
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Guys, intersting idea. But several questions which for some reasons are not covered:
1) Why are you not considering the competitors (Amazon etc.) when evaluating market potential? When evaluating the market why are you take all the e-commerce market and not discounting it on % of the market which could be ready for using tokens for payments? Absolutely sure that tokens are a limiting issue.
2) You say that the token will rise in price. But don't you think that think raise is limited by the price of "fiat based" marketplaces? When it will be on the same level of pricing shops will definetaly switch to developed and established marketplaces.
I saw the demo version of Storiqa marketplace. Now it's very poor. Skilled programmer can create it couple of days Undecided Propose to show the product to the audience when it's solid.


Besides Amazon etc. due you considering competitive blockchain platforms which are also developing the same product?
I can't find the financial model of Storiqa as a business. You didn't developed it? Really? Can you say what amount of attracted money will be used for marketing of the marketplace?
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February 03, 2018, 02:34:42 PM
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Guys, intersting idea. But several questions which for some reasons are not covered:
1) Why are you not considering the competitors (Amazon etc.) when evaluating market potential? When evaluating the market why are you take all the e-commerce market and not discounting it on % of the market which could be ready for using tokens for payments? Absolutely sure that tokens are a limiting issue.
2) You say that the token will rise in price. But don't you think that think raise is limited by the price of "fiat based" marketplaces? When it will be on the same level of pricing shops will definetaly switch to developed and established marketplaces.
I saw the demo version of Storiqa marketplace. Now it's very poor. Skilled programmer can create it couple of days Undecided Propose to show the product to the audience when it's solid.

Great questions! I would also like to get answers, I will wait for the response of developers
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February 03, 2018, 03:11:22 PM
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KYC requirements changed after ICO ending??? Hahahhaah
Guys, questions about fishy nature of the project make sense.
I think the team should transfer funds back to the investors if they deside not to do the KYC procedures. Presence of KYC is significant criteria for investing
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February 03, 2018, 07:32:14 PM
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This guy is the only guy who is being honest about this event on Youtube: https://youtu.be/L4jsM6dKxN8  He deserves some kudos for being an honest voice....we need to stand together against these types of scams if we want crypto to flourish.  The bait and switch was wrong!

obviously you don't know Russian language,ι have done much research on these people,Ruslan Tugushev  and Evgeny Gavrilin are real businessman,this is not first project they create,in this video Evgeny Gavrilin speaks to 20000 people  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFmNfxYOEU&t=2s

Really?  Then why did they ALREADY use stolen identities on their landing page AND why are they holding our money for ransom-- it's our money in exchange for our identities?  <-- That's shady!  And, that's not even mentioning the fact that alienating the American markets through their unprofessional behavior will not help them in their goals of acquiring some of the Amazon market share.....They may be able to set their "store" up in Zimbabwe and Ukraine....But, a large portion of the consumers they are trying to reach are in the United States, so if you take those numbers out of their market speculation goals, then this project is dead on arrival anyway.  So, either your "real business men" are incompetent, or they are thieves....either way....everybody's losing on this.

Ok, I understand,your problem is KYC,    kyc is good Cool Cool Cool look here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer

NO....you are wrong!  Storiqa is not, I repeat, Storiqa is NOT, a regulated financial market!  It's not a bank with government over site, it's not a regulated exchange, and it's not a government sanctioned credit bureau ....Storiqa is an anonymous entity running its business through multiple proxies on the cloud from several foreign countries ---> it's not good!  It doesn't protect you....it's a liability!  They want proof of our identities, but they are not providing proof of their own identities!  <--- If that doesn't raise a red flag, then I don't know what would.

If they're legitimate, then they need to refund those of us who do not want to give them our sensitive personal information because KYC was not required before we invested.

This is what it looks like they are planning:  They collect money from the ICO, hold the token hostage for our identities, then launder the ICO money by opening accounts on various exchanges, with our identities, to transfer the money to clean accounts.

Ask yourself: "How does giving an anonymous unregulated foreign entity my sensitive personal details protect me?"
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February 03, 2018, 07:34:30 PM
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Storiqa platform is a smart contract Ethereum blockchain platform created for buyers and sellers to do business transactions globally. The mission of Storiqa platform is to create an enabling environment for users of the platform to create a personal online shop and get technical support with wasting their time and energy which will draw them away from producing the right quality of goods and services.
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February 03, 2018, 07:51:17 PM
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Why are they not responding?  Doesn't anybody find that strange?  Are there any real investors in the thread or is the thread only populated by shills?
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February 03, 2018, 10:20:05 PM
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Why are they not responding?  Doesn't anybody find that strange?  Are there any real investors in the thread or is the thread only populated by shills?

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February 05, 2018, 12:26:11 PM
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Hello, Storiqa community!
 
Regarding KYC you can find an information here.

Storiqa is not, I repeat, Storiqa is NOT, a regulated financial market!  It's not a bank with government over site, it's not a regulated exchange, and it's not a government sanctioned credit bureau ....

Although the phrase “know your customer” may seem insignificant to a lot of people, it has a very important meaning in the business world. If we want to interact with other partners in the industry, however, we really have no choice. KYC allows companies to protect themselves by ensuring that they are doing business legally and with legitimate entities, and it also protects the individuals who might otherwise be harmed by financial crime.

We recommend you to pay attention to paragraph 12 Token Sale Policy which you may find at our official website storiqa.com

Guys, intersting idea. But several questions which for some reasons are not covered:
1) Why are you not considering the competitors (Amazon etc.) when evaluating market potential? When evaluating the market why are you take all the e-commerce market and not discounting it on % of the market which could be ready for using tokens for payments? Absolutely sure that tokens are a limiting issue.
2) You say that the token will rise in price. But don't you think that think raise is limited by the price of "fiat based" marketplaces? When it will be on the same level of pricing shops will definetaly switch to developed and established marketplaces.
I saw the demo version of Storiqa marketplace. Now it's very poor. Skilled programmer can create it couple of days Undecided Propose to show the product to the audience when it's solid.


Storiqa is not only cryptomarketplace. Any item can be bought for cryptocurrency or STQ tokens with minimal fees, while real-world currencies still remain relevant and valid. Items can be sold for cryptocurrency or any fiat currency alike, sellers receive payment in the currency of their choosing, including cryptocurrency.
Regarding demo still, there was a lot of to do to improve it and to makes it better. We are growing as a company and developing as professionals in the eCommerce sphere. Now our team is working really hard and at maximum capacity on demo-version 2.0 which will be absolutely far better than the previous one. That is why it is very important for us to know your opinion about the platform. Please, share with us all your ideas or comments if you have any. We will be glad to take into account all your suggestions and wishes.


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February 05, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
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Now our team is working really hard and at maximum capacity on demo-version 2.0 which will be absolutely far better than the previous one. That is why it is very important for us to know your opinion about the platform. Please, share with us all your ideas or comments if you have any. We will be glad to take into account all your suggestions and wishes.
This is very good news. Is there a certain date or at least approximate date  of release a demo version
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February 05, 2018, 06:49:45 PM
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About storiqa & kyc:

1. Storiqa is listed in icobench as an ICO without kyc.
2. Storiqa claims they already said that kyc is required (but they wrote it as "kyk" on their site, can't afford a proofreader, I guess?)
3. In their token sale policy, it says kyc is required "when buyers use our services". Buying their tokens counts as using their service, so kyc should have been done BEFORE they receive payment, not when investors want to withdraw their token.
4. Without kyc, token will be frozen a.k.a. investors won't get their token, but people who bought in presale already got their token without having to do kyc.
5. One of their telegram admins said kyc is needed to make sure that we, the buyers, are not involved in criminal organisation (lol), look at point 4 above.
6. Storiqa team doesn't even know what's in their kyc, still preparing it, they said. They're not ready because token sale ended earlier than planned. Wutt?
7. What else? Lemme think about it. In the meantime, stop by in their telegram group if you wanna have a good laugh.
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February 06, 2018, 04:47:39 AM
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Hello, Storiqa community!
 
Regarding KYC you can find an information here.

Storiqa is not, I repeat, Storiqa is NOT, a regulated financial market!  It's not a bank with government over site, it's not a regulated exchange, and it's not a government sanctioned credit bureau ....

Although the phrase “know your customer” may seem insignificant to a lot of people, it has a very important meaning in the business world. If we want to interact with other partners in the industry, however, we really have no choice. KYC allows companies to protect themselves by ensuring that they are doing business legally and with legitimate entities, and it also protects the individuals who might otherwise be harmed by financial crime.

We recommend you to pay attention to paragraph 12 Token Sale Policy which you may find at our official website storiqa.com


And, why aren't you mentioning the fact that you added the KYC amendment AFTER the token sale had ended.  And, after you've already been caught taking part in a prior identity theft scheme involving phony "advisors,' what makes you think that we're dumb enough to give you our sensitive personal information?  Furthermore, what makes you think that we would believe that your platform will be successful after all the legal complaints that are going to be filed as a result of your thefts?

And, what about this?



Raised: $21,637,287
Tokens sold: 4,792,895,197

($21,637,287)/(4,792,895,197 token) = $0.00451445026/token average

And,



Raised: $24,403,867
Tokens sold: 6,123,618,287

($2,766,580)/(1,330,723,090 tokens) = $0.00207900503/token average

How does the average price decrease when it's supposed to increase? Price dropped from $0.00451445026 per token to $0.00207900503 per token?  Really?  The price dropped?


Proofs:

Between the top image and the bottom image you raised: ($24,403,867) - ($21,637,287) = $2,766,580
Between the top image and the bottom image you sold (6,123,618,287) - (4,792,895,197) = 1,330,723,090 tokens.

So, how do you explain selling 1,330,723,090 tokens for ($2,766,580)/(1,330,723,090 tokens) = $0.00207900503/token?

Even with the discounts bonuses and referral commissions, the math doesn't even come close!  This demonstrates a 400%-500% token inflation....WTH?

EXPLAIN THAT ONE!  How come so many more tokens were given away at the end then were supposed to be?
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February 06, 2018, 08:50:52 AM
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Guys what's the problem? I mean, the problem should be the changement of terms, not the KYC. What's the problem to submit KYC? If you have something to hide, just don't risk joining ICO.. I agree that is not correct to change the terms, but we can do nothing, so relax and do the only thing we can do.. submit KYC when they ask..

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February 06, 2018, 09:30:32 AM
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Guys what's the problem? I mean, the problem should be the changement of terms, not the KYC. What's the problem to submit KYC? If you have something to hide, just don't risk joining ICO.. I agree that is not correct to change the terms, but we can do nothing, so relax and do the only thing we can do.. submit KYC when they ask..

They didn't fully disclose the KYC before they accepted our investments.  And, giving your sensitive identity documentation to unregulated foreign entities, who have already been involved in identity theft, is not a very good idea.  They could do all kinds of bad things with your identity.  Giving some unregulated anonymous entity, who's hiding behind a cloudflare proxy, your personal information, isn't the same as giving your information to a regulated accredited agency with a registered address.  
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February 06, 2018, 09:39:54 AM
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Guys what's the problem? I mean, the problem should be the changement of terms, not the KYC. What's the problem to submit KYC? If you have something to hide, just don't risk joining ICO.. I agree that is not correct to change the terms, but we can do nothing, so relax and do the only thing we can do.. submit KYC when they ask..

They didn't fully disclose the KYC before they accepted our investments.  And, giving your sensitive identity documentation to unregulated foreign entities, who have already been involved in identity theft, is not a very good idea.  They could do all kinds of bad things with your identity.  Giving some unregulated anonymous entity, who's hiding behind a cloudflare proxy, your personal information, isn't the same as giving your information to a regulated accredited agency with a registered address. 

I understand your point, but there is maybe another way to act? We have invested money, and now KYC is required to unlock our investment.. i really don't see other way if not to do it..Personally, i don't like to lose money, so.. if there is another way, explain..

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