[Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's 15 Sold [Closed] Jupiter Pool

[soniq]

Hi Guys,

Can anyone advise if payment calculations are posted or accessible somewhere?
I am still missing payments.
My PM's and mails don't get answered.

Thanks

I have been busy moving members from Bitfunder to direct shares,  semi automating the payment process and developing new site.

Here is the latest payment calculations  http://ec2-54-229-231-38.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/groupbuy/

We are addressing any payment issues and will be reflected in next dividend payment.

Cheers

[equipoise]

From the .xls file it seems one of my payments is gone to another address, which don't belong to me:

1HtF9GsWgQCFRxdoeo5zSv9xDiMp3cX5cS    1P6EF2s3US2BNopb8yAgLjiotdULtpJ5ye   -0.00384668   payout registed on blockchain

1HtF9GsWgQCFRxdoeo5zSv9xDiMp3cX5cS is my bitfunder public address and I gave you this address 1PW6xey6xQex1kJZMkAJvXouoGzeorfqVq for the payments and not 1P6EF2s3US2BNopb8yAgLjiotdULtpJ5ye.

[soniq]

From the .xls file it seems one of my payments is gone to another address, which don't belong to me:

1HtF9GsWgQCFRxdoeo5zSv9xDiMp3cX5cS    1P6EF2s3US2BNopb8yAgLjiotdULtpJ5ye   -0.00384668   payout registed on blockchain

1HtF9GsWgQCFRxdoeo5zSv9xDiMp3cX5cS is my bitfunder public address and I gave you this address 1PW6xey6xQex1kJZMkAJvXouoGzeorfqVq for the payments and not 1P6EF2s3US2BNopb8yAgLjiotdULtpJ5ye.

You made my heart stop, over 150 payment addresses and no errors.

 But your right, I have made an error on yours.

Noted and corrected, will pay the difference myself personally

[equipoise]

From the .xls file it seems one of my payments is gone to another address, which don't belong to me:

1HtF9GsWgQCFRxdoeo5zSv9xDiMp3cX5cS    1P6EF2s3US2BNopb8yAgLjiotdULtpJ5ye   -0.00384668   payout registed on blockchain

1HtF9GsWgQCFRxdoeo5zSv9xDiMp3cX5cS is my bitfunder public address and I gave you this address 1PW6xey6xQex1kJZMkAJvXouoGzeorfqVq for the payments and not 1P6EF2s3US2BNopb8yAgLjiotdULtpJ5ye.

You made my heart stop, over 150 payment addresses and no errors.

 But your right, I have made an error on yours.

Noted and corrected, will pay the difference myself personally

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[equipoise]

What's the reason you stopped mining in the Eligius pool? Are we merge mining on name coins also?

[soniq]

What's the reason you stopped mining in the Eligius pool? Are we merge mining on name coins also?

You are trying to give me heart failure? :-)

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1EN3EqqQfqq484WNATFAMA13VXpJuJNv5c

[equipoise]

I thought this was the address: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KkMPX9oKxoYnb5DU2xCJDrgQF6r9g6jza
Sorry for the heart attack

[Tiennou74]

was a payment made yesterday? thanks

[MilkyLep]

was a payment made yesterday? thanks

I received a payment, same amount as my last 2 or so payments.

https://blockchain.info/tx/a218e3583f0571377ef29fded24d47147c6820c6040ec1f07b8c2dd91e96f6d5

[Tiennou74]

yep! Thanks

[dutu]

up to what date are the dividends paid?

[dutu]

Hi Guys,

I wonder if I am posting on the correct topic or perhaps there is another one for this group-buy.
I haven’t got access to a report on earnings and dividend payments.
The pay-outs have been rather irregular and it looks I am missing almost 1 BTC (30% of total pay-out so far)

If any additional information is available please share

Thanks

[MilkyLep]

Check for your address here :
http://ec2-54-229-231-38.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/groupbuy/

I'd also pm soniq with any pressing questions, he is usually pretty good at responding.

[baros008]

Hi all members,

I would like to know your opinion of the disagreement I have with Soniq. We tried to solve it through PM, but our points of view are different.

I used to own 12 shares (40%) of the first Jupiter in this group buy, which were listed on BitFunder as 1200 shares.

All 1200 shares were owned by me since 21. 7. 2013 until 10. 10. 2013, then I was selling my shares gradually up to 21. 10. 2013. I still owned 900 shares on 18. 10. 2013.

I sent Soniq table with time, date and amount of shares I held on BitFunder (so he could calculate my dividend) on 22. 10. 2013, I even saw it included in KNC GB Calc spreadsheet in that time.


Jupiters were supposed to start mining 3. 10. 2013, but they really started mining 9. 10. 2013, compensation received from KNC was 5 BTC per Jupiter. I still owned 1200 shares at this time, so I should get 2 BTC from compensation.

Since this date Jupiters were mining and I still owned some shares, so I should get earnings from mining with corrected number of shares up to 21. 10. 2013.

Soniq says I sold my shares too soon and that dividends are paid to the current owner at the time of dividend payment. I read first post and through all 27 pages of the thread and I can't find this statement anywhere.

First dividend payment for GB1 was on 14. 10. 2013, on 18. 10. 2013 loan for 2 months of hosting from Jon at Bitfunder was fully paid. In this time I still owned 900 shares on BitFunder, so I should get my dividend. I don't know why he postponed dividend payment for members listed on BitFunder.

He released my dividend payment (BTC mined with my shares between 9. 10. 2013 and 21.10. 2013) and compensation for late delivery to new owner of my shares, I think it was error.

My logic says he should hold my part of compensation and BTCs mined with my shares till we clarify this situation, deduct hosting and other fees and then eventualy release my dividend.

All I got from Soniq in this group buy is test payment long time ago.

Prorated balance of 0.32 BTC (which was suposed to be returned with dividend payment) wasn't returned to me till now.




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Below is calculation of my dividend, it's only theoretical value (no problems with hosting included, no exact mining time and amount of shares calculations, hosting and fees not deducted).

-prorated balance
0.32 BTC
- late delivery compensation from KNC -5 BTC pre Jupiter x 12/30 (my 12 shares of 30 shares per Jupiter)
2 BTC
- 12 shares (200 Gh/s) mining with difficulty 189281249 for approx 3 days (9.-12. 10. 2013)
1.5 BTC
- 9 shares (150 Gh/s) mining with difficulty 189281249 for approx 3 days (13.-16. 10. 2013)
1.5 BTC
- 9 shares (150 Gh/s) mining with difficulty 267731249 for approx 4 days (17.-20. 10. 2013)
1.12 BTC

Total: 6.44 BTC

[Tiennou74]

I did not received any dividend this week?
Thanks

[Bitbuy]

I did not received any dividend this week?
Thanks

mm same here

[dutu]

I did not received any dividend this week?
Thanks

mm same here

Hi soniq,

Please update us on the bitcoins mined so far and dividend payments.

We have seen the excel file with the payouts.

Please share a statement and include:
•   bitcoins mined so far (please indicate the date)
•   Expenses until the date above
•   Dividend per share
•   Date of next payment
•   Frequency of regular payments and the date?

We have not seen reporting so far and the operations is not quite transparent in my view.

Thanks

[dutu]

Hi all members,

I would like to know your opinion of the disagreement I have with Soniq. We tried to solve it through PM, but our points of view are different.

[..]

yes baros008, it does makes sense that you receive the dividend payout for the period you have owned the shares.
The new share owner should receive the dividend payout for the period HE has owned the shares.

If this is not the case, soniq, please clarify the rules and reasoning behind. Perhaps also update the rules so that we all know how this will be handled in the future.

[clementina]

I did not received any dividend this week?
Thanks

mm same here

Hi soniq,

Please update us on the bitcoins mined so far and dividend payments.

We have seen the excel file with the payouts.

Please share a statement and include:
•   bitcoins mined so far (please indicate the date)
•   Expenses until the date above
•   Dividend per share
•   Date of next payment
•   Frequency of regular payments and the date?

We have not seen reporting so far and the operations is not quite transparent in my view.

Thanks

I think the same, nor understand it.
Regards.

[soniq]

Hi all members,

I would like to know your opinion of the disagreement I have with Soniq. We tried to solve it through PM, but our points of view are different.

[..]

yes baros008, it does makes sense that you receive the dividend payout for the period you have owned the shares.
The new share owner should receive the dividend payout for the period HE has owned the shares.

If this is not the case, soniq, please clarify the rules and reasoning behind. Perhaps also update the rules so that we all know how this will be handled in the future.

The issue arises when I dont know who he sold his shares too?   One of the many issues associated with Bitfunder.

I know how many shares are associated with each  payment addresses on Bitfunder, but I don't know who sold and bought what.

That is why the dividends are paid to to the payment address associated with the shares on dividend payment date.

In a private sale I would know the buyer and be able to "hold dividend payments", but in this situation I cannot.