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October 26, 2017, 07:44:24 PM
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There is one ICO I want to invest (this ICO has just started yesterday), but I'm still thinking. What do you think about it guys?
what I like about it:

  • Cappasity, the California-based company established in 2013 that has attracted $1.8M from VCs and angels.
     
  • They are working in really promising industry of AR/VR/3D
  • They have a working product, a new technology of 3D scan.
     
  • They’re doing one of the first crowdsales which are fully REGISTERED WITH SEC.

SO what else? pros/cons?


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  • Great Leadership and Team  
  • Only company to have identified a mechanism to value 3D content in a marketplace ecosystem  
  • Platform already supports some of Europe’s leading luxury brands
  • SaaS development working and supporting customers
  • Good timing in respect of hardware OEM support for AR/VR and 3D capability
  • Correct strategy in identifying content as the most valuable aspect of this future domain.
  • Great strategy in democratizing content for all to participate (Facebook example)  
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October 26, 2017, 08:19:18 PM
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Have anyone heard about it at all?
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October 26, 2017, 08:35:44 PM
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I've heard! It's a good one.. I don't know if it's the best one, but really good. If someone is interested there is their thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2316185
 I would also want to know what people say about this project
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October 26, 2017, 09:31:43 PM
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I'm following them for quite some time, and I also have some interest in that project. It's a really promising market since VR and 3D are getting incredibly popular and have a lot of uses, and are also quite expensive technologies, so who ever invests in their platform will probably have a lot of money. Their team looks solid, and were involved in some other projects in the area, and already got some awards from reputable companies.

It really looks like a solid project, but the only catch for me is that I'm not from the area. The tokens should be used to buy the projects done by creators that use the platform, but I wont buy any VR projects etc, so unless they got listed in some good exchanges, and the tokens could act like shares of the company, then I don't think I would have any use for them.

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October 26, 2017, 11:00:36 PM
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these guys are probably looking to raise money via ICO because they can't get it from VC's. Speaks a lot about the state of their business. I would stay out of it.
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October 27, 2017, 12:13:40 AM
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There is one ICO I want to invest (this ICO has just started yesterday), but I'm still thinking. What do you think about it guys?
what I like about it:

  • Cappasity, the California-based company established in 2013 that has attracted $1.8M from VCs and angels.
     
  • They are working in really promising industry of AR/VR/3D
  • They have a working product, a new technology of 3D scan.
     
  • They’re doing one of the first crowdsales which are fully REGISTERED WITH SEC.

SO what else? pros/cons?

Hi Futureblnr - I am a Cappasity contributor and early participant in the pre-sale event. I believe the success of Cappasity will come down to three things, (i) execution of the platform build, (ii) the health of the Platform Ecosystem economics, and (iii) the size of the addressable market. In respect of execution of the platform build, and the health of the Platform Ecosystem, I say the Platform is live and supporting B2B customers. There is a well detailed development plan and the founder (Mr Popov) is a seasoned 3D expert and know where Cappasity need to get to. In respect of the health of the Platform Ecosystem economics I believe there is NOT a stronger industry sector screaming to disrupt and create ‘new user cases’ around the more immersive interactive experience the technology offers.  Why will it be effective? Because it is a more interactive experience and this offers a great customer/user experience and will be wanted by customers and users alike.

In respect of the size of the addressable market I see Cappasity growing a ‘defining footprint' based on their strategy of content creation. Also, access to content through 'immutable marketplace economics' appears to offer great opportunity for the creation of new services and value, not yet conceived. The potential for this Cappasity articulated future is huge!

Pro's
Great Leadership and Team
Only company to have identified a mechanism to value 3D content in a marketplace ecosystem
Platform already supports some of Europe’s leading luxury brands
SaaS development working and supporting customers
Good timing in respect of hardware OEM support for AR/VR and 3D capability
Correct strategy in identify content as the most valuable aspect of this future domain.
Great strategy in democratising content for all to participate (Facebook example)
many, many more ...


The aspirations of Cappasity are world changing.  The size of the addressable market is breathtaking. The achievements, development and marketing, to date are credible and inspiring.

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October 27, 2017, 12:14:06 AM
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Great to see well-established company willing to undertake the ICO.

That is the clear signal: the day when 20% of world businesses will use this (better regulated than now) style of raising the capital, is quite close.
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October 27, 2017, 12:33:49 AM
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Bitcoin's blockchain is 100GB and is having scaling problems.

Ethereum's blockchain is 200GB and is having scaling problems.

Is ARToken going to put 3D or VR data on the blockchain? If so, isn't that going to be hundreds of Terabytes of data? How do they plan to scale this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243157
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October 27, 2017, 12:34:44 AM
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I've heard! It's a good one.. I don't know if it's the best one, but really good. If someone is interested there is their thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2316185
 I would also want to know what people say about this project

Hi edwards222 - I believe looking at the underlying business first, is the best gauge to identify transparency and credibility, two things extremely important in Crowdfunding events like this.  I believe the project, although extremely important, is a mechanism to support the aspirations of the Business, being Cappasity in this case.
There's a tone of greate content available online, in both official and non-official channels, in respect of Cappasity's 3D content enabling service Platform.  This is a working service provider servicing some extremely well known European luxury Brands and service providers. I believe reading the ARToken Project Whitepaper is extremely helpful in determining, for yourself, the underlying value proposition Cappasity intends to bring to participants of the Project and the industry alike.

Also, Cappasity has a mature ‘Youtube’ channel detailing customer and technology successes. This is the Cappasity antecedents, if you like and again offers a view of transparency, trust, achievement and credibility. Finally Cappasity believes the AR/VR revolution will be driven by content creators. That’s why Cappasity is introducing the first platform that leverages BlockChain infrastructure to create, rent and sell 3D content. This approach ensures decentralized and trustless copyright storage and content exchange within the AR/VR ecosystem, and I believe is unique today.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRCSGdmb2ClX-3P9A6oXkAw
https://blog.artoken.io/
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October 27, 2017, 12:43:08 AM
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these guys are probably looking to raise money via ICO because they can't get it from VC's. Speaks a lot about the state of their business. I would stay out of it.

Did you try to do a little background checking first bro? I want to hear the other side of this because I actually took time to look at their website and I was convinced that this is not one scam or crap project. The project was actually founded way back in 2013 and was even able to raise $1.8 M from angel investors in the year that immediately followed, 2014. And then the platform was launched last January. I think this is good.

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October 27, 2017, 12:52:48 AM
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these guys are probably looking to raise money via ICO because they can't get it from VC's. Speaks a lot about the state of their business. I would stay out of it.

Hi dacryptomoney - I have heard comments similar to this. The general argument seems to be, if another mechanism can perform the function of the Crowdsale Token raise then perhaps the ICO is not necessary and better suited to the VC market?
In respect of this, I take the opposing view.  If the issuance of a Generation Token Event can represent value and the building of same, in an architecture of transparency, without the traditional costs and overheads of legacy systems, then I say, the fit is good and consideration of an ICO mechanism for Capital raising and value appreciation is open to the aspirational.  More important than the discussion of ‘token Utility’ is the recognition that for value to be created, within an ICO ecosystem, there needs to be consideration and careful attention to some traditional business pursuits of due diligence, an understanding of unit cost economics and an understanding of the intended business model and competitive environment.
To my knowledge Cappasity have received both Angel investor support and VC support and this would have come with a load of due diligence and forecasting models. Being a entrepreneur and having done the VC dance I welcome a new Capital raising paradigm. The ICO mechanism, per say, has been extremely disruptive to the traditional funding gate-keepers, (VC). Also with VC investment comes dilution at the cost of the Founders, typically with risk ameliorated for the VC.  Nice to see companies have a choice now.   Wink
I invite you to have a look at the underlying value propositions. I believe the success of Cappasity will come down to three things, (i) execution of the platform build, (ii) the health of the Platform Ecosystem economics, and (iii) the size of the addressable market. Finally an ICO for Cappasity is a perfect fit!  Love to hear your comments. Thank you. 
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October 27, 2017, 12:55:19 AM
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Bitcoin's blockchain is 100GB and is having scaling problems.

Ethereum's blockchain is 200GB and is having scaling problems.

Is ARToken going to put 3D or VR data on the blockchain? If so, isn't that going to be hundreds of Terabytes of data? How do they plan to scale this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243157

Thank you for your question - the 3D, AR and VR content will be stored in another distributed network architecture but not a blockChain.
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Great to see well-established company willing to undertake the ICO.

That is the clear signal: the day when 20% of world businesses will use this (better regulated than now) style of raising the capital, is quite close.

Thank you for your comment M-thepry. Completely and absolutely agree!  Wink

Systems of trust don't work! They exist with huge overhead cost of surveillance, regulation and oversight and when this all fails, as it always does, the huge cost of prosecution.  Introducing a trustless system where the math provides immutable trust and transparency.  This technology (BlockChain) and speciation’s of it (ie Ethereum) are changing the operations landscape for all business, and if not now, will be!
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Bitcoin's blockchain is 100GB and is having scaling problems.

Ethereum's blockchain is 200GB and is having scaling problems.

Is ARToken going to put 3D or VR data on the blockchain? If so, isn't that going to be hundreds of Terabytes of data? How do they plan to scale this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243157

Thank you for your question - the 3D, AR and VR content will be stored in another distributed network architecture but not a blockChain.

Then what's the purpose of your blockchain? Why not use any existing blockchain or currency?
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I'm following them for quite some time, and I also have some interest in that project. It's a really promising market since VR and 3D are getting incredibly popular and have a lot of uses, and are also quite expensive technologies, so who ever invests in their platform will probably have a lot of money. Their team looks solid, and were involved in some other projects in the area, and already got some awards from reputable companies.

It really looks like a solid project, but the only catch for me is that I'm not from the area. The tokens should be used to buy the projects done by creators that use the platform, but I wont buy any VR projects etc, so unless they got listed in some good exchanges, and the tokens could act like shares of the company, then I don't think I would have any use for them.

Thank you for your comment. Cappasity has listed with HitBTC and is in negotiation with other crypto-exchanges at this time. These are early times. Correct execution by Cappasity will see a growing revenue stream and customer/user base. We all understand the value of user created content (FB example) so with a growing platform and ecosystem value I suspect many Crypto exchanges will be seeking the company of Cappasity, as true to their nature they are inspired by transactions and demand. 

I found this also and wanted to share: http://icorating.com/project/390/Artoken/rating
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Bitcoin's blockchain is 100GB and is having scaling problems.

Ethereum's blockchain is 200GB and is having scaling problems.

Is ARToken going to put 3D or VR data on the blockchain? If so, isn't that going to be hundreds of Terabytes of data? How do they plan to scale this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243157

Thank you for your question - the 3D, AR and VR content will be stored in another distributed network architecture but not a blockChain.

Then what's the purpose of your blockchain? Why not use any existing blockchain or currency?

The decision to engage in the mechanism of a BlockChain and token crowdsale was made after much consideration and an appreciation of the Cappasity long term Goals and strategy. Cappasity believe content will drive the mass market adoption of this revolutionary technology. The examples of FaceBook et al has taught us content delivered to a platform, by the user base, is a very value giving model. Creating lasting value has also ascribed consideration to our family of contributors as creating a platform and ecosystem of lasting value requires use and support of the 3D community. A BlockChain describes an immutable and transparent ledger. Contracts and utility tokes will assign provenance and interactions to the elements of the commercialisation of the ecosystem. Cappasity believe having control of their own digital currency is important also as they believe value appreciation to be immense, going forward and correctly want to control the liquidity of their platform and ecosystem. 

The use of BlockChain is by choice. We believe a decentralised ‘trustless’ ledger with an inherent immutability makes sense for almost all things so we believe it is a good use here. There is also the question of cost saving with a decentralised ledger as legacy systems are built on trust and therefore have plethora of ‘oversight’ costs built in for the system to operate as designed.

The model of a BlockChain and utility token makes sense also for the building out of the 3D marketplace. There is already substantial development value in the production capability of the Cappasity platform today. The Crowdsale will fund the building of the marketplace ecosystem and will capture and commercialise everything that comes after that. This is a nascent industry, developing a Token, specific to trade in its growing value just makes sense!  This, we believe, represents as stronger case as any, for the issuance of a utility token and the use of a BlockChain. 
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October 27, 2017, 08:41:30 AM
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I really like this project. I put some coins there because I have a small amount of it. I believe that the 3D industry and the vertual reality are our future. Now it is gaining huge popularity and many companies provide such services for stores and catalogs
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October 27, 2017, 09:19:53 AM
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a normal project accroding to how many skam can be found on the forum, you can find a lot of shit there, but here is more or less decent. I like that everything is OK w the white paper is literate both in terms of technical and semantic parts
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October 27, 2017, 09:30:42 AM
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these guys are probably looking to raise money via ICO because they can't get it from VC's. Speaks a lot about the state of their business. I would stay out of it.

Cappasity has successfully raised over $1.8M from angel investors since 2014. They collect money not the first time. Already then they proved that they have a serious project.

https://www.facebook.com/cappasity/posts/1916185091730554
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I'm following them for quite some time, and I also have some interest in that project. It's a really promising market since VR and 3D are getting incredibly popular and have a lot of uses, and are also quite expensive technologies, so who ever invests in their platform will probably have a lot of money. Their team looks solid, and were involved in some other projects in the area, and already got some awards from reputable companies.

It really looks like a solid project, but the only catch for me is that I'm not from the area. The tokens should be used to buy the projects done by creators that use the platform, but I wont buy any VR projects etc, so unless they got listed in some good exchanges, and the tokens could act like shares of the company, then I don't think I would have any use for them.

Yeah, I like that the company has already some good history... Intel is supporting them if I'm not mistaken.  I don't think I can create a lot of content on the platform... I considering this ICO as a long-term investment, like 2-3 years... I believe the price could rise dramatically, what do you think?
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