Pakistan

[galambo]

No matter which price we buy, the price keeps moving down. No one knows the exact bottom. 20,000$ may look unrealistic but everything is possible in crypto.

By the way, is there anyone who invested a big amount in LUNA and is in a loss like me  

30k$ so far is showing a strong support. Bitcoin may jump upward from here or may go further down to 25k or 20k. Mera khayal ma bitcoin yahan sa oper jya ga. Downfall was due to Luna crisis and the crisis is now clear. I m keeping my cash ready.

Suggestion:: Kya hum logon ko apna telegram ya WhatsApp group bnana chahya??

[Kelven8]

i bought luna when it was 1.8 usd believing that it has hit rock bottom and that it won't go any lower and that its time to rebound for this unfortunate coin but then it hit new lows. The only good thing that happened was that around 2 days before this, i withdrew all but 200usd from crypto wallets to buy a car and when this luna thing happened, i was only having 200 approx which i then invested in it and lost. Had i not withdrawn my amount, i would had invested all in.

By the way, is there anyone who invested a big amount in LUNA and is in a loss like me 

My nephew invested around 3000 usd at price 28usd, following the famous quote "Buy the Dip" but it kept dipping and now he has lost all

لونا سے بہت لوگوں کا بہت نقصان ہوا ہے اور آپ بہت مشکل ہے کہ یہ واپس سے ون ڈالر بھی آ جائے ، جتنا یہ نیچے آیا ہے اس کے بعد تو زیرو پوائنٹ آنا بھی مشکل ہے

[Zunairakhan]

It is not compensating. Like Do Kown said in the above link they will make a new chain of 1B tokens and will distribute in Luna holders and he said eligible are those who staked before crash.

Yehi tu scam hy jo app sumjhee ni rahy. They will distribute the tokens to luna holders who staked before the crash. Mutlab sirf jo stake kr rahay ho gay aun ko milay ga Luna token?
Bagi million loggon ka kia jinoon nay apna pura portfolio daal dia luna mein jab luna 1$ ya aus kay ass pass tha. Aun ko tu kuch ni milnay wala aur na hi aun ki investment return hogi.

Saalay pakistani sirf faucet aur PTC sites mein 100, 100 satoshi hi claim kr k khush hain. ya phir cheating aur scaming krne mein. ye kabhi kuch nai kr sakte. is se aagay badenge tabhi to kuch krenge.

Yaha culture hee aisa hai scam karo ghay to agay jao ghay mai nai positive mind sai shuru kia lakin ahmad Jadoon sub kuch kai gia aur ab mai bhi footh path per aa gia hu sirf acha kernai kai chakar mai

aesa kya hogaya jo foot path par aa gaye ho aur ab fruadiya banna ka soch rahe ho? ye blockchain hai bhai. yahan chances aur opportunity ki koi kammi nai hai. mujhe hi dekh lo. kahan se start kia tha aur ab kahan hon. bagair kisi scam ya dhoke bazi k..

Merai bhai mai nai 8000 rupai sai shuru kia tha or mai 2 bitcoin tuk gia sirf buying selling or altcoin ki trading ker kai lakin Ahmed Jadoon aik hee bari mai mera sub kuch lai gia mai fruadiya nahi ban raha sir bata raha hu kai yaha culture hee aisa hai ab bohut mushkal halaat ho gai hai

Luna sy bht log ameer hogay or ab dubara luna k nechy jany ka wait horha hai k luna nechy Jay tw mazeed logo ki b zindagi ya badal saky

[Sayeds56]

It is not compensating. Like Do Kown said in the above link they will make a new chain of 1B tokens and will distribute in Luna holders and he said eligible are those who staked before crash.

Yehi tu scam hy jo app sumjhee ni rahy. They will distribute the tokens to luna holders who staked before the crash. Mutlab sirf jo stake kr rahay ho gay aun ko milay ga Luna token?
Bagi million loggon ka kia jinoon nay apna pura portfolio daal dia luna mein jab luna 1$ ya aus kay ass pass tha. Aun ko tu kuch ni milnay wala aur na hi aun ki investment return hogi.

To bhai yhi farq h naa jab pata h ik project $60 sy nichy agya h or $1 tak agya h to wahan apna portfolio Luna my kiya mtlab they know very well ky hm risk hi ly rahy hen. Or jab risk liya h to risk my loss bhi h so brdasht b karen or sara portfolio bhi Luna my dena ye un ki dusri ghalti h.

Or jinhon ny phly sy invest kiya or staking nai ki ye bhi un ki ghalti h. Ikk opportunity h to us ko use karty.

Or meri is bat ki taeed ik bhai upar kar bhi chuky hen.

Brother, Luna mein zayadeh loss un logo ko hoa ha jino ne Luna k wallet Terra station  mein staking ki hoi thi or Luna ka crash itna fast hoa k wo apny coins unstake nhi ker sakty thay ku k Luna or cosmos chain pe staked coins 14 days meinn un-stake hoty han, withdrawal request submit krny k baad.  

[kaka_Shipai]

i bought luna when it was 1.8 usd believing that it has hit rock bottom and that it won't go any lower and that its time to rebound for this unfortunate coin but then it hit new lows. The only good thing that happened was that around 2 days before this, i withdrew all but 200usd from crypto wallets to buy a car and when this luna thing happened, i was only having 200 approx which i then invested in it and lost. Had i not withdrawn my amount, i would had invested all in.

Wow, did you bought the car with your crypto saving ? Congralations. Kon si car buy ki aur kitna bitcoins cashout kiey ?

Luna nay boat dookha dia kion k man people bought it at cheap prices under 5$ thinking it can't go below further but no one knew this project will come to an end.

No, actually i invested in crypto and then withdrew money at loss but i had a freelancing project that gave me good money and the remaining i withdrew from my crypto wallets. i actually bought a used cultus but still a good car for me as i m no landlord, a middleclass person who is looking to grow in freelancing world and crypto industry. And thanks for the wish.

[Sayeds56]

Crypto community will never forget the one of most devastating event of last week

Last week Luna investors k sath jo kuch hoa usy bhulana bht mushkil ho ga or es pe debate/discussion bht dino tak media ki zeenat bunti rehe gi. Luna ko Binance se delist kerna or phir dobara list kernay pe bi bht debate ho rehi ha or Binance exchange ko bi blame kia ja reha ha k uno ne es event se bht paisa banaya ku k luna k market cap dobrara list hony ki waja se 3 Billion dollars tak poch gaya tha ku ki eski price All time low se kai hazar guna br gai thi. Binance k founder or CEO CZ ne bi es k bary mein statment dia ha jis ki details neechy diay gaye link mein majood han. Es event se crypto community ne bi bht kuch seeka, bottom line yehi ha k Bitcoin or Ethereum k ilawa kisi bi coin/token worthless ho sakta ha. Always make good research before investing and invest what you can afford to lose.



https://watcher.guru/news/binance-ceo-issues-statement-following-terra-luna-ust-situation

[MFahad]

Luna ka ye waqia whole crypto k Liye kaafi bad news ha q k AJ ye Luna k Sath hwa tho Kal ye Kisi AUR coins k Sath b ho sakta ha. Bhot se log jinho ne big amount ust ya Lunaa lagaya tha suddenly bhot km hogia. Es se Crypto ki wo famous Rule yad AA Gai "" Don't invest more than what you can afford"
Luna walo ne Aitraf kia ha k unho ne 8k price ka BTC sold kia tha Jo k i think big raqam ha mgr recover na hosaka.

[shahzadafzal]

Luna ka ye waqia whole crypto k Liye kaafi bad news ha q k AJ ye Luna k Sath hwa tho Kal ye Kisi AUR coins k Sath b ho sakta ha. Bhot se log jinho ne big amount ust ya Lunaa lagaya tha suddenly bhot km hogia. Es se Crypto ki wo famous Rule yad AA Gai "" Don't invest more than what you can afford"
Luna walo ne Aitraf kia ha k unho ne 8k price ka BTC sold kia tha Jo k i think big raqam ha mgr recover na hosaka.

This rule was always applicable and this is the basic rule # of crypto "invest only what you can afford to lose."

Ye kehna k ye LUNA ka sath hua ye kisi bhi coin k sath ho sakta... like said in my last post even bitcoin is not safe yes chances are less but still you can't rule out.

likan aik baat aur bahoot important hia k ye 8K BTC kahan use kiye? Actually plan that they should buy UST and burn any additional quantity. Aur ye backup plan nahi tha actual strategy thi... aur ye fail he iss liye hua jab isko backup plan k tor pe use kia.... agar ye kaam pehle kia jata but UST down ho raha tu tu thikn kafi kuch different hota.


Any way bhai whats going on in Pak??? Ye kia new chal rahi hia... regime change one more time???

Yani Pakistan ko inno ne experiment lab banaya hua hia??? chal gia tu haik nahi chala tu restart???

[Sayeds56]

Luna ka ye waqia whole crypto k Liye kaafi bad news ha q k AJ ye Luna k Sath hwa tho Kal ye Kisi AUR coins k Sath b ho sakta ha. Bhot se log jinho ne big amount ust ya Lunaa lagaya tha suddenly bhot km hogia. Es se Crypto ki wo famous Rule yad AA Gai "" Don't invest more than what you can afford"
Luna walo ne Aitraf kia ha k unho ne 8k price ka BTC sold kia tha Jo k i think big raqam ha mgr recover na hosaka.

This rule was always applicable and this is the basic rule # of crypto "invest only what you can afford to lose."

Ye kehna k ye LUNA ka sath hua ye kisi bhi coin k sath ho sakta... like said in my last post even bitcoin is not safe yes chances are less but still you can't rule out.

likan aik baat aur bahoot important hia k ye 8K BTC kahan use kiye? Actually plan that they should buy UST and burn any additional quantity. Aur ye backup plan nahi tha actual strategy thi... aur ye fail he iss liye hua jab isko backup plan k tor pe use kia.... agar ye kaam pehle kia jata but UST down ho raha tu tu thikn kafi kuch different hota.

Shahazadafzal Bhai, You are absolutely right. What happened with Luna is an eye opener for all crypto community. My suggestion is to always use stop loss while trading or even when you are holding your funds in any exchange becuase that is the only way to protect your portfolio from total loss. Any investment or trading without risk management is gambling.

[MFahad]

Ust k bad ab are aur stable coin Jo k fantom project la Stable coin ha DEI wo b apna Peg lost kr gia Kal aur 0.5 thak AA gia tha aur ab 0.61 par trade ho rha ha.Ye bhot he khatre ki nishani ha agr Khuda nakhasta AISi sorath Hal Usdt k pas paish aaee tho per Market bhot ziada neeche jaega. Ma me apna fund all Busd aur Usdc ma kia ha . Be careful

[Sayeds56]

Shahazadafzal Bhai, You are absolutely right. What happened with Luna is an eye opener for all crypto community. My suggestion is to always use stop loss while trading or even when you are holding your funds in any exchange becuase that is the only way to protect your portfolio from total loss.

You didn't give any suggestion to stakers. Because many are those who just buy the terra to stake and to get airdrops. Like you said in the previous posts that it takes 14 days to get unlock. It means we should never stake our portfolio?

Any investment or trading without risk management is gambling.

It means you are saying if anyone has bought Bitcoin. And just think that he will hold it and don't make the stop loss it means it is gambling. I don't think so. You are connecting two opposite 90° turn overs.

Therefore I said in one of my post that. If you have any investment so choose different projects don't invest in one project. And only invest those yani jo ap bardasht kar skty hen ky loss ho bhi to koi masla nai h.

The crash of Terra Luna vindicated that Staking is extremely high risk investment  because its risk is not manageable.

You are talking about Diversification of portfolio which is also part of risk management strategy, In simple words it means, DON'T PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET.

Generally beginners in crypto or in stock trading often fail to  understand the benefit of using stop loss until they burn their total capital when market crashes. Stop loss means limiting your losses which is fantastic tool  to protect your account from total collapse. All Fund managers who manage funds of Billion of dollars use this tool. Let's assume I am holding 1 Bitcoin in my portfolio and its current price is around 30K, if i place my stop loss at 25K which  means limiting my loss to 5K. If God forbid Bitcoin price falls down  to 15K then my loss would be 15K which is huge amount.

Trailing stop loss is a modified tool which is dynamic stop loss and moves up and down with movement of  price of asset you are holding or trading in. Please find details in below given link.

There is a fine line between gambling and investing which is important to understand, investment without risk management strategy is like gambling  :

Investing and gambling both involve risking capital in the hopes of making a profit.
In both gambling and investing, a key principle is to minimize risk while maximizing reward.
Gamblers have fewer ways to mitigate losses than investors do.
Investors have more sources of relevant information than gamblers do.
Over time, the odds will be in your favor as an investor and not in your favor as a gambler.


https://www.investopedia.com/articles/trading/08/trailing-stop-loss.asp

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/09/compare-investing-gambling.asp#:~:text=True%2C%20investing%20and%20gambling%20both,and%20over%20the%20long%20run.

[Sayeds56]

O o! You are comparing both with an article. I was talking about Shariah.
Because gambling is Totally haram. And investing is better way which is halal.
But you are saying that if anyone didn't use the stop loss so it is gambling.
And again I don't think so if any one is buying a Bitcoin and if he loses the whole amount by decreasing the value of bitcoin so it is loss not gambling.
Therefore I Said that you are merging two 90° turn overs.

Your thoughts on Investment in SHARIA context is 100% right but Sharia doesn't stop us to use tools/technology to prevent losses.

[Sayeds56]

O o! You are comparing both with an article. I was talking about Shariah.
Because gambling is Totally haram. And investing is better way which is halal.
But you are saying that if anyone didn't use the stop loss so it is gambling.
And again I don't think so if any one is buying a Bitcoin and if he loses the whole amount by decreasing the value of bitcoin so it is loss not gambling.
Therefore I Said that you are merging two 90° turn overs.

Your thoughts on Investment in SHARIA context is 100% right but Sharia doesn't stop us to use tools/technology to prevent losses.

Yes we can use them. Because it is our right. But it doesn't mean that if we will not use them so it would be Gambling. That was my point.

Professional Investors and traders think investment is gambling if not properly managed by Risk management tools but  not in Sharia context. Please take broader view of investment in strategic context to understand what I am saying. Also watch attached video of one of the Top world traders to know more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXM57rqIO9Y

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[UmerIdrees]

Ust k bad ab are aur stable coin Jo k fantom project la Stable coin ha DEI wo b apna Peg lost kr gia Kal aur 0.5 thak AA gia tha aur ab 0.61 par trade ho rha ha.Ye bhot he khatre ki nishani ha agr Khuda nakhasta AISi sorath Hal Usdt k pas paish aaee tho per Market bhot ziada neeche jaega. Ma me apna fund all Busd aur Usdc ma kia ha . Be careful

DAI ab recover hogia hay and there is no worries now. Agar USDT ko kuch hua tu BUSD or USDC bhi safe ni rahein gay. I think sab c save Pakistani Rs hay  

[galambo]

DAI ab recover hogia hay and there is no worries now. Agar USDT ko kuch hua tu BUSD or USDC bhi safe ni rahein gay. I think sab c save Pakistani Rs hay  

Allah Pak apke zuban mubarak kra aur Pak Rupee ko safe rekhya. Aj USD open market ma 196 py trade hua. I am just worried ky kaheen ya collapse na kr jya.

USDT ka market cap 75 billion USD hy, jabka Binance USD ka 18 billion hy. Mera khayal ma USDT is more safe then anyother Stablecoins at the moment. Ma apni holdings zayda tr USDT ma he rekhta hn.

[UmerIdrees]

Allah Pak apke zuban mubarak kra aur Pak Rupee ko safe rekhya. Aj USD open market ma 196 py trade hua. I am just worried ky kaheen ya collapse na kr jya.

Collapse kion keray ga aur kaisay keray ga  

USDT ka market cap 75 billion USD hy, jabka Binance USD ka 18 billion hy. Mera khayal ma USDT is more safe then anyother Stablecoins at the moment. Ma apni holdings zayda tr USDT ma he rekhta hn.

Stable coins mein USDT hi best hy meray khayyal c lekin yeh abhi logoon ko stable coins mein paisa rakhna ka shok hy. Humrary zamany mein (jab meine bitcoin start kia tha 2016 c) tu aus time log trading bhi btc pair mein kertay they aur apnay pass bitcoin rakha kertay thay. Ajj kaal ki new generation USDT mein crypto funds rakhna pasand kerti hy. Ais c bethar hy k Fait currecny US Dollar rakh lein log.

[galambo]

Collapse kion keray ga aur kaisay keray ga  

Stable coins mein USDT hi best hy meray khayyal c lekin yeh abhi logoon ko stable coins mein paisa rakhna ka shok hy. Humrary zamany mein (jab meine bitcoin start kia tha 2016 c) tu aus time log trading bhi btc pair mein kertay they aur apnay pass bitcoin rakha kertay thay. Ajj kaal ki new generation USDT mein crypto funds rakhna pasand kerti hy. Ais c bethar hy k Fait currecny US Dollar rakh lein log.

Bhai Allah na kra Pak Rupee Collapse kra. The way its slipping against Dollar koe pta nhi kahn ja ka rukya. As a bitcoin trader human to fayda hy but its not good for the country.

Things came with time. If I go back to my childhood memories to hum log eik 'ghala' ma paisa jama krta thy. Aj kal to kids ky bbhe bank account hn.

[shahzadafzal]

DAI ab recover hogia hay and there is no worries now. Agar USDT ko kuch hua tu BUSD or USDC bhi safe ni rahein gay. I think sab c save Pakistani Rs hay 

USDC got bug jump and now on number 4on CMC with MCap. of $52b, have crossed BNB.

Also if you have noticed BUSD also on no. 9 now mujhe tu lag rah end ye stable coins he reh jain ge baqi sab ghaib ho jain ge hehehe

Yes USD aur apna rupiya… wo kia hai “baap bara nah bhaiya…. sab se bara rupiya”

[Sayeds56]

DAI ab recover hogia hay and there is no worries now. Agar USDT ko kuch hua tu BUSD or USDC bhi safe ni rahein gay. I think sab c save Pakistani Rs hay  

USDC got bug jump and now on number 4on CMC with MCap. of $52b, have crossed BNB.

Also if you have noticed BUSD also on no. 9 now mujhe tu lag rah end ye stable coins he reh jain ge baqi sab ghaib ho jain ge hehehe

Yes USD aur apna rupiya… wo kia hai “baap bara nah bhaiya…. sab se bara rupiya”

Brothers, mere khayal mein USDC zayadeh safe ha ku k It is backed by US-based payments giant Circle and cryptocurrency exchange Coinbase which is a listed company in USA Nasdaq exchange or listed company sirf institutions k samny accountable nhi hoti blky apny share holders ko bi jawabdeh hoti han. Baki Allah behter janta ha. Luna k sath jo kuch hoa us k baad toh sub kuch hee vulnerable lugta ha.

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[Digital_Lord]

Ust k bad ab are aur stable coin Jo k fantom project la Stable coin ha DEI wo b apna Peg lost kr gia Kal aur 0.5 thak AA gia tha aur ab 0.61 par trade ho rha ha.Ye bhot he khatre ki nishani ha agr Khuda nakhasta AISi sorath Hal Usdt k pas paish aaee tho per Market bhot ziada neeche jaega. Ma me apna fund all Busd aur Usdc ma kia ha . Be careful

absolutely Right. Agr usdt k sath aisa kuch howa tw market bahot buri tarha se crash hogi because usdt ki marketcap bahot ziyada ha. Baqi Allah behtar kry ga aur sab ko is khatre se masooz rakhy ga. Phir bhi ham sab ko safety k liye others stable coins mn Thora Thora fund rakhna chaiye. Ma bhi apna fund usdc.busd mn rakh raha hon. Ap bhi ye zaroor kren.