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Author Topic: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure  (Read 125594 times)
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November 05, 2017, 11:42:17 AM
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Registered!  Grin
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November 05, 2017, 02:22:20 PM
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I dont understand the mining payout will be in BTC or on their own token?
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November 05, 2017, 02:30:17 PM
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I dont understand the mining payout will be in BTC or on their own token?

This does seem to be the real question? If it is paid in BTC/ETH then are these tokens a fancy open ended mining contract?
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November 05, 2017, 02:33:37 PM
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When will your Wallet App be fully ready?

The token is based on the Ethereum ERC20 standard and will work with any compatible wallet, e.g. MyEtherWallet.
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November 05, 2017, 02:55:03 PM
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I dont understand the mining payout will be in BTC or on their own token?

The tokens represent a security.  Right now, the payout will be in ETH, but we are working on doing payouts in additional currencies in the future.
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November 05, 2017, 03:23:04 PM
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And they did not talk about two more problems.
1. The air will always go the easiest way. It means, if you have no wind outside the Container, the hot air will go inside the Container again. The air will just circle between inside and outside and will become more and more hot.
2. I dont see any filter, to make the air clean before going to the miners. After 2-3 month the miners will be so dirty, that you can put them to trash, because all heatpipes will be full of dust...

Hi Skylink.

You've got some great questions.  Most of them can be answered by reading the whitepaper here: https://www.envion.org/en/download/envion_whitepaper.pdf

The whitepaper contains detailed information about the design of the cooling system and results from our tests on thermal efficiency.  I think you'll see that German engineers are not satisfied designing something that only works if there is wind outside the container—the unit we have up and running is cooling just fine inside a factory.

Our MMUs connect to power using low-voltage connections found at most power plants.  The units are profitable despite micro fluctuations in costs like night-time grid costs from PV installations.  Our operational unit in the factory is providing winter heat and offsetting the price of grid energy.  There are also myriad other types of installations where there are no such fluctuations like when the units use overcapacity from new plants that are not yet on grid or the grid has not yet capable of using the full capacity. The point is that envion units are flexible enough to be profitable in any such situation and can be moved to a new place when conditions change.

If you want to geek out on the calculations, then the whitepaper is going to be a lot of fun. 

If you are still convinced envion is fake after reading the whitepaper, I suggest you come pay us a visit.  We invite all of our potential investors to come visit us in Berlin and see the working unit. 





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November 05, 2017, 08:23:51 PM
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Hello from the picture I saw about this project. it seems as an existing project already. thats a good one. But I get confuse about the location. I mean where and where are this project going to be situated.Or will it just One large facility?
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November 06, 2017, 06:04:50 AM
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What hashing power is one MMU able to generate?

How is the payout to happen? Do we need to hold it in a wallet of envion or a dashboard like wallet?

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November 06, 2017, 06:20:05 AM
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Looks like an interesting project
However there's not a clear statement in their whitepaper refarding what will be the approx revenue for investors?
Could you please make that clear?

1) How much of the annual mining profit will be released to token holders?
2) How and when that will be done?  Weekly? Monthly ?
3) Is there an estimation of mining profit ?



Still, I don't find which coins they are going to mine because previously there is some project launched with the names Easy Mine, Start Mining.
Mining concept-based projects are good but how far can we get paid through dividends is still dilemma because Start mining people are not responding to the people.
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November 06, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
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Hi. A have a few questions.

In WP is't clear
Vents flow is made directly on GPU's or there are heat tubes ? Dust is not a problem?

Investors will have access to the UMC status / current parameters monitoring?

Do you have already any agreements with producers of mining hardware and energy plants to place MMU or only thechical solution? Where are all the profit calculation came from? Efficiency, ROI?

What mining hardware did you count? How did you get 228% profitability. It's huge!

How long will it take to produce, deliver and assemble that many MMU's ?

Thanx.
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November 06, 2017, 11:00:27 AM
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In future mining will be shifted towards big mining forms where people will get profit on their investment without installing equipment at their own. When first ever this kind of mining form built in Russia as there are most likely these thing happening, start paying it will boost. There is still lot of time to catch up with their approach and question.
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November 06, 2017, 01:42:00 PM
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Obviously, I can say that the project has created expectations. I like the presentation very much. It was quite ambitious, simple and professional. The team is really getting serious about the project. The crowds are also a source of confidence. But frankly I am a little afraid. Because if we say which project is "there is a future for it," it all exploded. So I will wait for ICO to talk about the future.
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November 06, 2017, 03:48:36 PM
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Very unique and innovative idea in the crypto mining space.
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November 06, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
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I have some questions.
If you use PV, what happens night time? You use high price electricity from the grid?
The PV is mostly far away from living people. What, if someone pick up the data Center at night time and drive away? Its easy to make 300k usd Cash with one Container...
The brainstorming for the name "envion" tooks how long?
Its just a Mix of the electricity supplier "envia" and "eon".
Guys, be careful, that looks like a scam!
Very similar to the scam.
In addition in Europe, solar energy has subsidies from the state. What happens if the subsidies are canceled?
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November 06, 2017, 04:30:28 PM
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Is there any bounty available?

C
Finally C is!!!
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November 06, 2017, 04:32:05 PM
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Is there any bounty available?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2349366

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November 06, 2017, 04:36:11 PM
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I think it`s very interesting project. wish you a good luck!
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November 06, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
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And they did not talk about two more problems.
1. The air will always go the easiest way. It means, if you have no wind outside the Container, the hot air will go inside the Container again. The air will just circle between inside and outside and will become more and more hot.
2. I dont see any filter, to make the air clean before going to the miners. After 2-3 month the miners will be so dirty, that you can put them to trash, because all heatpipes will be full of dust...

Hi Skylink.

You've got some great questions.  Most of them can be answered by reading the whitepaper here: https://www.envion.org/en/download/envion_whitepaper.pdf

The whitepaper contains detailed information about the design of the cooling system and results from our tests on thermal efficiency.  I think you'll see that German engineers are not satisfied designing something that only works if there is wind outside the container—the unit we have up and running is cooling just fine inside a factory.

Our MMUs connect to power using low-voltage connections found at most power plants.  The units are profitable despite micro fluctuations in costs like night-time grid costs from PV installations.  Our operational unit in the factory is providing winter heat and offsetting the price of grid energy.  There are also myriad other types of installations where there are no such fluctuations like when the units use overcapacity from new plants that are not yet on grid or the grid has not yet capable of using the full capacity. The point is that envion units are flexible enough to be profitable in any such situation and can be moved to a new place when conditions change.

If you want to geek out on the calculations, then the whitepaper is going to be a lot of fun.  

If you are still convinced envion is fake after reading the whitepaper, I suggest you come pay us a visit.  We invite all of our potential investors to come visit us in Berlin and see the working unit.  


           It seems that Skylink has its technical document based on its mining experience.  And this guy is writing fair things.

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November 06, 2017, 04:43:13 PM
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Hi,

how it's possible that you can pay dividends to token holders and you not fall under U.S. Securities and exchange commission (SEC)?
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November 06, 2017, 05:02:41 PM
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Is there any bounty available?


Please see the details of the bounty program here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2349366

We will be publishing the details of the affiliate program in the coming days.  Stay tuned to the #ENVION_Announcements Telegram channel for details.
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