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November 11, 2017, 08:15:35 AM
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Looks like a great project.
Which exchanges do you plan to join?

Mark (above) does raise a few concerns.
Could you please share a bit more info on the CEO?
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November 11, 2017, 11:02:43 AM
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And now, please, tell me: How did patent your technology if your company is just only 1 month! But you told in your WP about research and develop your technology for a long time! You can not mine because your company was created only 1 month ago just only for raising money!

They wrote that the patent is PENDING. (read whitepaper)
Why you should open the Company 2 years before starting? its just a waste of money.
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November 11, 2017, 04:11:13 PM
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    ADMIN - Envion?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh

Why don't you answer any of my question???
You want to collect money from investors on nesushestvuyushiy technology of mining!!!
Your company has been opened less than a month ago!!!
You have not at all any experience in mining!!!!
your team hired a month ago!!!!!
You the site says: Patented Cooling More than 40× more efficient than traditional data centers: Using a patented cooling system, we reach an unprecedented power efficiency.

In Wite paper you says:  patent-pending !!! completely different!!

Answer me? All of my questions before the people to fool a head!!!!

If you do not respond within 2 days - I went to the police in Switzerland !!!
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November 11, 2017, 04:14:26 PM
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Very interesting project, I thought for a long time why it is impossible to arrange farms somewhere in a field on solar batteries, is there a technology for using a wind turbine as an energy source?
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THE ATTENTION OF INVESTORS!!!!!!!!!

The administrator of this project does not answer my questions !!!!!

The draft stated the new technology of mining which is patented. I watched videos and saw this technology:

1. The only Sea container is painted and made many holes with the sewer fittings
 2. There are 2 fan in the middle
 3.In the inside I see a couple racks on them video cards in a small amount!!!!!

Dear project Envion - you want us to say here: what is your new technology?HuhHuhHuh

The container with holes?HuhHuh? It is easy funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In your container cheese)))))))))))).

 Your video card in the container - will bring you very small profit!!!! About what you say - Divident 161%?Huh?
If the computing power in the container itself does not pay after 1 year!!!!!!!

Answer me to another question: What kind of processing power you have in your container only?Huh?

Conclusion: 1. You do not have mining or where!!!!!!!!!
2. You have no any technologies for mining
3. You organized a company less than a month ago
4. You have hidden the founders of the company
 5. You hired all of the employees a month ago!!!
6. You are cheating investors offering such income 161% with your container of cheese!!!
7. Your CEO is just a journalist, not an investor with 300 million)))
8. You started a company in Zug Switzerland a month ago - in order to make the project more attractive to investors .

INVESTORS CAREFULLY READ MY INFORMATION before investing!!!!!!
I work for the truth - and I hate it when people want to cheat investors with a BLOCKCHAIN world!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 11, 2017, 05:18:53 PM
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 ADMIN?HuhHuhHuhHuh

THE ATTENTION OF INVESTORS!!!!!!!

All my posts deleted on the telegram!!!!!

I did not answer any similar question here!!!!!

Remove with a telegram because he can't answer?HuhHuh?

INVESTORS THINK!!!!!!!!

I think it's a Scam!!!!!!!!!!!!! I go on Monday to the police of Switzerland
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November 11, 2017, 06:21:34 PM
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Interesting Project, it tackles the main problem of the blockchain universe... good luck on your success, looks quite good until now.
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November 11, 2017, 06:28:01 PM
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I have been monitoring their Telegram channel. They are quite responsive with answers there. Although there may be only one person a time answering the questions. It can take a bit for a reply. Our team will be keeping an eye on this ICO.
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November 11, 2017, 07:01:05 PM
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ADMIN?HuhHuhHuhHuh

THE ATTENTION OF INVESTORS!!!!!!!

All my posts deleted on the telegram!!!!!

I did not answer any similar question here!!!!!

Remove with a telegram because he can't answer?HuhHuh?

INVESTORS THINK!!!!!!!!

I think it's a Scam!!!!!!!!!!!!! I go on Monday to the police of Switzerland

Mark, I'm sorry you had to be removed because your conduct violated the channel's rules.  You were warned repeatedly and many people asked for you to be removed.

I answered your questions on Telegram and I will answer them AGAIN here.

1. Are you SCAM?
No.  But we encourage you to do your due diligence and find out for yourself.  That means you have to look at our website and whitepaper at the very least.

You can learn all about what Envion does on our website, but if you want to be sure we're not a scam, I suggest you take a look at our team. 

You can also see that we are in partnership with the Frauenhofer Institute, one of the premier science research institutes in Europe: http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/envion-ag-envion-and-fraunhofer-to-start-research-cooperation-20171109-00299

2. Where are founders and co-founders? Where are no info about founders on website!
All the info on our team is on the Team page, visible from the top navigation: https://www.envion.org/en/team/

The entire Envion team have been working on public projects in the German business community for years—we are entrepreneurs with easily-accessible public profiles.

3. Where do you mine? NO INFO about your minig!!!
We have a Mobile Mining Unit in operation not far from our Berlin offices.  We will have a second unit coming online in the next two weeks. Info about it and a view of the operating dashboard is available here: https://www.envion.org/en/mobile-mining-unit/

4. Website was open 1 month ago!!!
It's normal for a company to work in stealth until they are ready with their product.  We are no different. Learn about stealth mode here: https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/229461

Furthermore, we couldn't possibly have developed our IP, written our whitepaper, gotten lawyers, secured deals, etc. in in one month. 

Now that we are public, we will also be announcing our external auditor from one of the Big Four auditing firms who will oversee our ICO and business operations for full transparency and accountability.

5. Where is technical characteristics for power ?
I don't know what this means and you refused to clarify in our discussion on Telegram.

6. Where is info about mining power per container&
There is considerable information on the technical specifications of our mining units in our 60-page whitepaper: https://www.envion.org/en/whitepaper/

In addition to that information, we are coming out with supplementary data that shows more detail on our projections and different operating scenarios. That is a need that arose from user requests here and on Telegram and we are responding to it.

7. Where do you locate&
We are a Swiss company with operations in Berlin, which is where our mining unit is.  This information is on our website and has been confirmed by DigiCert to get our SSL license: https://www.envion.org/en/imprint/

8. To color a container is it your real technology?
As for what our innovation is, there are many: from using Industry 4.0 controls, to the mining software that dynamically chooses coin, algo, etc. from real-time market data, to the patent-pending cooling system.

If it were just throwing some ASICs in a box we wouldn't have one of the world's premier research institutions working with us, the Frauenhofer Institute (they invented MP3s too!).

MORE OF YOUR 'QUESTIONS':

1. Your company was created October, 5, 2017! (Info from Zug, Switzerland register -  we can provide a paper).
Again, we were working in stealth mode.  A lot of companies incorporate new entities in their ICO jurisdiction when they decide they will use an ICO to fund their project.

2. Website was created in October, 2017!
We hope you are not using our website to determine if we are legit—please do more research.  Yes, it went public when envion went public with our company and project.

3. In White Paper you told about  Envion technologies GmbH what will cooperate with you, but no any info about this company! Please, send me a link to this company!
Here is the text from the whitepaper: "After the ICO, we will found a 100% subsidiary for R&D and the management of container production: envion technologies GmbH, located in the German blockchain capital of Berlin."

I'm not sure how we can make the word AFTER more clear or to better describe the purpose of creating that subsidiary.

4. Account in Linked In was opened 1 week ago!
Stealth mode, dude. Not sure what else to say.

5. Your CEO is journalist and  was hired in October, 2017 like all their team!
Our CEO has spent two decades in the energy industry after his career as a journalist, leading an energy investment fund in Berlin and advising many energy startups: http://www.quadrat-capital.com/management/


Mark, please stop the harassment.  I've answered your questions many times over now.  I welcome hard questions and don't even mind a bit of conflict, but you are scaring away other people from asking their important questions.  I hope this suffices.
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November 11, 2017, 07:27:12 PM
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I have been monitoring their Telegram channel. They are quite responsive with answers there. Although there may be only one person a time answering the questions. It can take a bit for a reply. Our team will be keeping an eye on this ICO.

Thanks CryptoGatherer.  The group has grown to over 2200 in 10 days!  We are bringing in more support to increase coverage of Telegram and all our channels.  We are really pleased with the massive response.
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November 11, 2017, 10:47:37 PM
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What you told me?Huh?

You did not answer my one question!!!!

1. What you write is what your Director is the founder of the company - you are lying!!!
Your Director is the journalist you hired 1 month ago to work - is simply Executive Director in Envion AG and   Envion  you covered!!!!!
I will send all photos from your founders documents - to see all your lies!!!!!

2.You have not answered-where is your mining??? Where exactly is mining farm? you can't tell because you don't have one! you cheat!!!
You only have one airbrushed onto the container, which you carry for the video and have a video with a smoke blue))))

 3. What you could do a patent if your company only 1 month?Huh - you're all lying!!!!

4. You are talking about a profit of 161% per year from your equipment - you are cheating investors!!!!
With your container in the holes - can not how to profit by 161%.(considering the fact that you still need to take the profit)
What you want to say that what you showed container holes in them with a few rows of video cards will be able to bring a profit?Huh
 Yes, it's all a hoax!!!!!!! And you know that's not true!!!! You have no any technology for mining.

 5. You do not call the compute capacity of your container : how many PH/s  MH/s - I will tell you - in order for investors have not seen this!

6. The fact that you are with someone, the partnership is not mean that you can!!!

7. You have not performed any testing of the container - you don't have anything other than a container with holes from sewer pipes and a couple of fans!!!
Yet you don't answer me to my questions - you will be considered a fraud perpetrated in Switzerland !!!!

My result, You don't have:

1. Mining farm, there is only 1 container with 2 holes. You do not have the technology, but what you showed is just ridiculous!!!!!

 3. You hide especially of the founder, hired journalist Executive Director

4. You hired all the people a month ago - you do not have any commands in mining

5. You started a company in Zug Switzerland - to give the project importance in the eyes of investors!!!

6. You just want to collect money and all!!!!

I work for honesty! And will not allow me to delete the Telegram for the fact that you can't not answer one my question!!!

INVESTORS - BE CAREFUL . THIS COMPANY HAS NOTHING TO MINING!!!
STOP FOOLING PEOPLE WITH YOUR PROJECT !! FOR DEFRAUDING INVESTORS IN SWITZERLAND - MANY YEARS IN PRISON!!!!!


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This is pretty sure a scam - way too many red flags, but just in case a german friend will call the ISE on monday and ask for the envion partnership (LOL).

Btw. Look at quadrat-capital ROFL


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To the envion guys: I hope you prepared your butts, because i heard german jails are full of muslims who especially like the assholes of delicate germans like you.
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November 11, 2017, 11:34:24 PM
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If they are able to deliver what they promise, the project really looks like a game changer. But how would they secure the containers with the mining equipment. And would they limit their movements only in Europe?
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November 12, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
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This project has a very large potential and will outperform the mining farms but since it's the first of it's kind, we must expect the worst problems that will arise while operating since we never saw them in the past and the dev and his team needs to be prepared for the worst and must have their contingency plans to address the problems that will arise.

Just quoting to give all the heroes who pump the scam negative trust rating later Smiley
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https://imgur.com/a/jDq61    As you can see here financial director just a manager not the owner as envion team claim. In this document there are 2 nominal managers but they are hide.
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Judging from his team this project is neatly organized and invested by famous people. mining projects are many in the interest of many people. I think a project like this rarely happens its name is not successful. so I'm sure this project is worth following and will be successful later.
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First, let me say that the entire envion team rejects your abusive and racist comments.  They are inappropriate on this thread and anywhere.

Secondly, it appears you discovered the website of our CEO's investment firm is a Squarespace site.  I'm not sure what this illuminates for potential investors.  You can read more about this domain reg info here: https://support.squarespace.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003671428-Who-s-my-domain-provider-

Lastly, we welcome any scrutiny of our operations.  Please ask us the hard questions and involve any third-parties you wish.  We operate in full transparency with the law and with our investors.

This is pretty sure a scam - way too many red flags, but just in case a german friend will call the ISE on monday and ask for the envion partnership (LOL).

Btw. Look at quadrat-capital ROFL

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November 12, 2017, 09:28:50 AM
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If they are able to deliver what they promise, the project really looks like a game changer. But how would they secure the containers with the mining equipment. And would they limit their movements only in Europe?

Hi WhaleSlayer.  Envion will have a global roll-out with the majority of operations outside Europe where our energy industry customers offer green energy at cheaper prices.

Comments on physical security are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2348435.msg24223118#msg24223118
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created a steemit article! cheers!

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@lucasgabd/self-expanding-crypto-mining-infrastructure-using-green-energy-get-to-know-envion

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THEY have the moment difficulty in the projected price in 5 years, so it must be false......
 The profitalibity of 1000 to 17000 is falsified, for retake confidence
 of the buyer before they check , they wash your eyes with conditioner, Bonus 35% of profit of ENVION, vote and veto on company.
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