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Author Topic: Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest  (Read 454578 times)
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June 24, 2013, 07:49:14 PM
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the luck percent (presumably for the users in general) is 140%?

The luck is high because a couple of players competed to see who could win the 0.0001% chance bet first.

It's a one-in-a-million chance to win, and they both won it in less than a million attempts.

Suppose they made a million attempts, and won twice.  That's a luck of 200% percent (winning twice as many times as expected).  The rest of the bets bring the average luck down to 140%.  But that's why it's so high.  A couple of lucky 0.0001% rolls make a big difference.

They were both playing single-satoshi bets when they won, so the site's bottom line was barely affected by their wins.  They both won a little less than 0.01 BTC when they hit the 0.0001% win.

These were the two winning spins, btw:

https://just-dice.com/roll/708311
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June 24, 2013, 07:57:00 PM
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It would be very nice to have a preview of the fee calculation before divesting.
Something that updates dynamically when you change the content of the "amount to divest" field would be terrific.

Noted.

Until then, here's the deal:

In the 'history' tab, click 'investments' to make sure the report is up to date.  Note the value of 'base' in the last row.  That's the amount you can divest without paying any commission.  Anything over that amount is charged commission (currently 1%).

You'll notice that the 'base' went up to match your investment yesterday when I ran the weekly commission run.  That indicates that your whole investment amount at that point was then free of further commission liability.  Any profit since then will have brought your investment up above the new 'base', and so made just that profit subject to commission upon withdrawal.

Is that clear enough?

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June 24, 2013, 08:13:32 PM
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I get that.

I cannot calculate the likelihood of this because I don't know the bet size distribution.  It would take a large number of high bets (0.5-1% of the betting pool) for this to be at all probable.

It seems weird given the fact that there have been so many bets that you would not be closer to a normal distribution.  However, maybe there is a large number of big bets and the rest of the bets are very tiny.




The luck is due to 2 people running the extreme ends of low probability wins, and winning early.

Estimations, but I believe 2 wins of a 1 in 1,000,000 chance happened at 750,000 rolls cumulatively? That is where the luck came from.


One thing that is on the table (doog has no shortage of feature requests) is to make luck scores based on time or bet # bands. Those spam bets ended a few days ago and the luck has dropped 40-50% since then, and didn't yield much loss for the site. So the luck for the past 2 days is vastly different than the overall luck, etc.

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June 24, 2013, 08:14:18 PM
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Is that clear enough?

Crystal clear :-)

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June 24, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
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account number is 1865!!!
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June 24, 2013, 08:55:02 PM
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account number is 1865!!!

You finally made it out of newbie jail!  Smiley

I hope it was worth the wait, and that you do great things with it...

123 2013-06-24 20:56:39 (1) manually crediting user 1865 with amount 0.01 squirrtle

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June 24, 2013, 10:48:37 PM
Last edit: June 24, 2013, 11:06:57 PM by Boelens
 #347

account number is 1865!!!

You finally made it out of newbie jail!  Smiley

I hope it was worth the wait, and that you do great things with it...

123 2013-06-24 20:56:39 (1) manually crediting user 1865 with amount 0.01 squirrtle

Is there some sort of promotion going on?

EDIT: If so, user ID : 1194
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June 24, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
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Dooglus - suggest you keep this thread for site-related discussion, and start another for bitcent requests.  Or vice versa.
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June 24, 2013, 11:02:48 PM
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Account #1904

Thanks very much! great site!
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June 24, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
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I'm busy working on new site features.  I'll get to the new requests for bitcents by the end of the day.

Just wanted to make a quick note:

One of our players had his balance stolen and his password changed.  Apparently he used the same password on Just-Dice as he used on another less reputable casino.  I can see in the access logs that someone from the other casino logged in to Just-Dice using the player's password, withdrew his investment, bet it, lost it, and changed his password.

So the moral of this story is don't play on other sites.  Only use Just-Dice.  Smiley

No, wait.  The moral is don't use the same password on multiple sites!  And use the google-authenticator 2-factor protection.  It's free and easy.

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June 24, 2013, 11:34:58 PM
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I'm busy working on new site features.  I'll get to the new requests for bitcents by the end of the day.

Just wanted to make a quick note:

One of our players had his balance stolen and his password changed.  Apparently he used the same password on Just-Dice as he used on another less reputable casino.  I can see in the access logs that someone from the other casino logged in to Just-Dice using the player's password, withdrew his investment, bet it, lost it, and changed his password.

So the moral of this story is don't play on other sites.  Only use Just-Dice.  Smiley

No, wait.  The moral is don't use the same password on multiple sites!  And use the google-authenticator 2-factor protection.  It's free and easy.

What's the name of the other casino. Seems like we should start a scammer thread if you know who it is.

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June 24, 2013, 11:35:55 PM
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Account is # 1912 amazing site!
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June 24, 2013, 11:41:55 PM
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I'm busy working on new site features.  I'll get to the new requests for bitcents by the end of the day.

Just wanted to make a quick note:

One of our players had his balance stolen and his password changed.  Apparently he used the same password on Just-Dice as he used on another less reputable casino.  I can see in the access logs that someone from the other casino logged in to Just-Dice using the player's password, withdrew his investment, bet it, lost it, and changed his password.

So the moral of this story is don't play on other sites.  Only use Just-Dice.  Smiley

No, wait.  The moral is don't use the same password on multiple sites!  And use the google-authenticator 2-factor protection.  It's free and easy.

Or just simply don't bet on non reputable sites. If I try out reputable sites, I use a temp password. I do this because I have no phone to use 2 factor authentication >.>
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June 25, 2013, 12:10:00 AM
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how much did the player lose?
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June 25, 2013, 12:29:16 AM
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how much did the player lose?

< 0.1BTC
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June 25, 2013, 02:27:29 AM
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how much did the player lose?

< 0.1BTC

I believe it was all from comps I had given him, too, as opposed to money he had deposited himself.

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June 25, 2013, 03:20:38 AM
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Very impressive site!
Just signed up. I'm moogle Smiley

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June 25, 2013, 04:33:23 AM
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the user ID is 1987

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user id 1997

i appreciate the little startup fund  Cheesy

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June 25, 2013, 05:40:02 AM
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What's the name of the other casino. Seems like we should start a scammer thread if you know who it is.

I really don't want to talk trash about other casinos.  I can't prove that the owner of the casino was the one who broke into the Just-Dice account.  All I see is the originating IP which the Just-Dice user recognised as belonging to the casino where he used the same password.

I keep being tempted to post on one of the other 'dice game' threads, when the users complain about rolls being slow, and the max bet being low, and the interface being buggy, and tell them that there's a better way.  But that seems rude, so I don't.

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