Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest

[ni|]

Do you still have the Just-Dice publicly known large escrow? lol folks who think Dooglus would boost 1 bitcoin when he has keys to the safe.

You're asking whether I'm still holding the JD bankroll?

No, I swapped it for a gram of coke and a blowjob. 

Cool for 35 million must have been a damn good blowjob. What's her name? I want in 

lmaooo Alan....

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[VolanicEruptor]

funny, but jokes aside, how do we trust someone to hold that much Bitcoin without draining everything out one day?  I'm curious because I'm interested as an investor.  Is the identity of the man in charge known, and what kind of liability would he have if the disappeared?  After the Ukyo scam and countless others, I am very nervous about putting my money anywhere.  What makes just-dice safe when you choose to invest in the house (Luck aside.  I'm talking strictly of trust in people)

[thecoinjournal]

funny, but jokes aside, how do we trust someone to hold that much Bitcoin without draining everything out one day?  I'm curious because I'm interested as an investor.  Is the identity of the man in charge known, and what kind of liability would he have if the disappeared?  After the Ukyo scam and countless others, I am very nervous about putting my money anywhere.  What makes just-dice safe when you choose to invest in the house (Luck aside.  I'm talking strictly of trust in people)

As the MPOE-PR stated, investing bitcoins anywhere other than MPex is no different than gambling on JD.

[BittyBing]

Bitty!!!!!

[seuntjie]

Update Bump!

This Bot works for Doge-Dice as well. Set the URL at the top of the bot to http://doge-dice.com, adjust settings and happy betting

More Info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307425
Beginners Guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391870


Features added in v2.4.6
   upped limits for stop and reset commands
   lowered minimum for reset seed
   added charts
   few bug fixes

download links:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/seuntjiejddb/files/Update%20Only/DiceBot-2.4.6.exe/download - update only, replace existing Dicebot2.x.x.exe with this one
http://sourceforge.net/projects/seuntjiejddb/files/Complete%20Release/DiceBot-2.4.6.zip/download - Full release

or

http://seuntjie.com/dicebot/Update/dicebot-2.4.6.exe - update only, replace existing Dicebot2.x.x.exe with this one
http://seuntjie.com/DiceBot/Complete/DiceBot-2.4.6.zip - Full release

Feel free to donate  Smiley
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[kgo]

funny, but jokes aside, how do we trust someone to hold that much Bitcoin without draining everything out one day?  I'm curious because I'm interested as an investor.  Is the identity of the man in charge known, and what kind of liability would he have if the disappeared?  After the Ukyo scam and countless others, I am very nervous about putting my money anywhere.  What makes just-dice safe when you choose to invest in the house (Luck aside.  I'm talking strictly of trust in people)

Everyone needs to make the trust decision for themselves.

I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing... but at this point the site has a large enough bankroll to cover the occasional whale that stops by.  Additional investment just hurts current investors by diluting their stake.  Additional investment neither hurts nor helps dooglas since he takes the same cut no matter how much is invested.  So there's really no incentive for him to go out of his way to provide docs and what not to attract new investors.

In fact, if he was aggressively trying to raise capital and build investor trust, that'd be suspicious to me.  The only reason to do so given the current bankroll would be so he'd have more to steal later.

[dooglus]

funny, but jokes aside, how do we trust someone to hold that much Bitcoin without draining everything out one day?  I'm curious because I'm interested as an investor.  Is the identity of the man in charge known, and what kind of liability would he have if the disappeared?  After the Ukyo scam and countless others, I am very nervous about putting my money anywhere.  What makes just-dice safe when you choose to invest in the house (Luck aside.  I'm talking strictly of trust in people)

The best evidence that I don't intend to steal investor funds is that the total bankroll was over 60k BTC for a while and then a big investor pulled out 12k BTC all at once (I paid him out in two transactions so I didn't have to keep such a large amount online at once).  It's unlikely that the bankroll will ever be that high again, and so that would have been the obvious time to steal it if I was going to.  But instead I let him withdraw his 12k BTC.

I know it's not much proof of anything, but I think the way most scams work is that the operator tries to make as much as he possibly can out of them, which it's clear I'm not doing.

Everyone needs to make the trust decision for themselves.

I'm not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing... but at this point the site has a large enough bankroll to cover the occasional whale that stops by.  Additional investment just hurts current investors by diluting their stake.  Additional investment neither hurts nor helps dooglas since he takes the same cut no matter how much is invested.  So there's really no incentive for him to go out of his way to provide docs and what not to attract new investors.

In fact, if he was aggressively trying to raise capital and build investor trust, that'd be suspicious to me.  The only reason to do so given the current bankroll would be so he'd have more to steal later.

Note that he's not talking about being able to cover losses to lucky whales.  He's just talking about the risk of me stealing the invested coins.

Like you say, I don't feel the need to convince anyone of anything.  I've been doing this long enough now that there are plenty of people who trust me.  Attracting more investment doesn't achieve much of anything.  If I wanted a bigger maximum bet on the site I'm sure I could double the "risk factor" back to full-Kelly without many complaints.  And attracting more investment just means I'm responsible for an even larger pile of Bitcoins.  Since I don't intend to steal them, that's nothing but extra stress for me.

So you're welcome to join the fun if you want to, but it's up to you to decide whether you can trust me or not.  Also bear in mind that the 1% edge isn't big enough to prevent a very bumpy ride to profit.  We often have losing weeks; in fact 2 of the last 3 weeks the site has made a loss (the winning week more than made up for the two losing weeks, but that's by no means guaranteed).

[dooglus]

If you ever need support with Just-Dice or Doge-Dice, please email the address in the FAQ:

rather than PM'ing me threats on the forum (because I don't check the forum very much any more):

Thanks! 

It took longer than expected, but finally we have resolution:



The 1.17 BTC (or whatever it was) is safely back with its owner...

[Timetwister]

Attracting more investment doesn't achieve much of anything.  If I wanted a bigger maximum bet on the site I'm sure I could double the "risk factor" back to full-Kelly without many complaints.  And attracting more investment just means I'm responsible for an even larger pile of Bitcoins.  Since I don't intend to steal them, that's nothing but extra stress for me.

You are right if players don't usually play for the maximum profit. Now promotions should be focused on players, on encouraging them to play more.

[Bittcoo]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

[organofcorti]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

inb4 phishing attack.

[Bittcoo]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

inb4 phishing attack.

   phishing attack?

This is my story!

[itod]

"You have no idea how hard it is for me now to work, earning about 4 Bitcoins a month."

Do you have any idea how many people on this globe work for a fraction of that? IMHO you should be happy you have a decent job, learn a lesson on what happened and continue with your life. Money is no reason to be unhappy, there are much more important things.

[Bittcoo]

"You have no idea how hard it is for me now to work, earning about 4 Bitcoins a month."

Do you have any idea how many people on this globe work for a fraction of that? IMHO you should be happy you have a decent job, learn a lesson on what happened and continue with your life. Money is no reason to be unhappy, there are much more important things.

I'm a hopeless job. I work 10-12 hours a day.
I do not make 4 BTC this is a mistake.
Earning about 2 Bitcoins a month. I have only to repay the credits.
I do not have enough to next payday. I know that some people have worse.

[organofcorti]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

inb4 phishing attack.

   phishing attack?

This is my story!

Maybe. But my mum always told me not to click on links that are from a url made to look like another url.

[nicolaennio]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

You will not mind to provide on the website the username and password of bitstamp (or btc-e or mtgox depending on where you bought the bitcoins) so that everyone can check the history and see that you indeed bought those bitcoins.

[Bittcoo]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

You will not mind to provide on the website the username and password of bitstamp (or btc-e or mtgox depending on where you bought the bitcoins) so that everyone can check the history and see that you indeed bought those bitcoins.

A little anonymity.
Gambling has destroyed not one life, I am financially at the bottom

[nicolaennio]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

You will not mind to provide on the website the username and password of bitstamp (or btc-e or mtgox depending on where you bought the bitcoins) so that everyone can check the history and see that you indeed bought those bitcoins.

A little anonymity.
Gambling has destroyed not one life, I am financially at the bottom

Come on man! You are well in a catastrophe, losing 80K is incredible, your pride is not at stake here. You shouldn'd be ashamed of gambling hard, it is a common illness. Right now the website just looks like scam and it is not convincing anyone to donate. If you provide hard data, I am sure you will get something to recover a part of your losses.

[ReBoRn]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

its usual story no worries peoples which going in gambling must have some idea about this luck never works for one I lost more then you 

[mprep]

I ruined my life by just-dice. Do not play!

I have described my story www.just--dice.com

its usual story no worries peoples which going in gambling must have some idea about this luck never works for one I lost more then you 

Yeah, some gamblers take it too far. You don't gamble with something you're afraid of losing. @Bittcoo Just post the story in a new thread in Off-topic, rather than linking to websites. Hell knows what malware will cling on your device if you visit the site.