VEGA 64 mining FREE WISDOM

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added clock readings, first logo identifiers, synched sensors
the two buttons Patch and Default are to be renamed NOS and ECO and are the two standard preset buttons
VGA Activity tracker will be VGA QMS v01.0.0

hbm2 temp, timed restart and rewrite of the power play tables etc tomorrow


https://imgur.com/hextYCj



any suggestions while we are building?

[tjoepapke]

Ty, for your free wisdom. Keep doing what you are doing.

[R0mi]

cooling retrofit for RX Vega, Morpeus II
and how to open your VEGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THaMlkNDzYs

Careful with that Morpheus II retrofit.  The video you linked to is one out of two that should be watched if you are going to try this (I've done 8 Vega Morpheus II retrofits).

There are a lot of slightly different sized screws to remove.  The card becomes very lopsided/weight heavy because you have a massive heat sink on one side + 2 120mm fans clipped to the heatsink, and the bare circuitboard on the other side.

The final mounting to GPU is tricky as the tiny screws can become loose.  I used LocTite to stop this.

And your cards will be almost completely exposed.  The upside is that you can apply good thermal paste; I found Vegas' thermal paste to be all over the board; too thick, too thin, very dried out, etc.

And 120mm fans are much quieter than the single blower reference fan running at 3,000+ rpms.

Helps also with HBM memory temps while not being very loud at all.

summer is coming and the free airconditioning or rather deep freeze will be over, been thinking of alternatives in keeping the cards in ambient cool
isnt the exposed board prone to dust and particle collection? this can in extreme cases bridge components

thnx for the pointers, im always a bit skeptical to one size fits all and would rather see a Vega specific heat sink retrofit,

do you know of any?
im a bit dense when it comes to available materials and spend a lot of time searching

I do not know of any Vega-specific, air-only heatsink retrofit.  The Morpheus II works pretty well, but it isn't quite the walk in the park that the YouTube video makes it out to be.

The board is exposed.  What you can do is spray the board (front and back) with liquid silicone and then let the board dry for at least a week.  The plug the board + Morpheus II into your rig.  The silicone provides protection against water/shorting.  Do not spray the board with silicone and then try to connect it up that same day or a day later; you will probably short out something on the board.

The Morpheus II when installed right is very quiet (120mm fans versus reference blower fan), and does run cooler at relatively low noise levels.

I think I posted on YouTube what the one video left out in terms of how to go about removing the various sets of screws.

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thnx R0mi

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4936 blocks to go....

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creating new powerplay tables for the presets ECO and NOS

https://imgur.com/uKY4BlO

aiming at: ECO 44Mh-1940h@136W and NOS 46.5Mh-2080h@190W  ish

testing tomorrow

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RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ASIC GET OUT

VEGAS BACK ON XMR
SUMO heavy DIFF LOWER THAN MARIANAS TRENCH

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https://vegatoken.org/qms-v01-0-0-specs

[Biggums]

summer is coming and the free airconditioning or rather deep freeze will be over, been thinking of alternatives in keeping the cards in ambient cool
isnt the exposed board prone to dust and particle collection? this can in extreme cases bridge components

thnx for the pointers, im always a bit skeptical to one size fits all and would rather see a Vega specific heat sink retrofit,

do you know of any?
im a bit dense when it comes to available materials and spend a lot of time searching

I live where the summers are hot but dry so I am looking into applying some sort of method of just moving a lot of air over my stuff. Taking some ideas from these guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeCKGPdTKTc

This dude has his riggs outdoors in full blown Florida summer heat. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qbLkivgxps

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VEGA Token (VGA) special pre ITO offer now closed

VGA available again for purchase at ITO

QMS v01.0.0 expected delivery to pre ITO contributors in approx 3 weeks, which means these members will have increased returns from mining for about 60 days before anybody else (that's their $35 back many fold in that time frame)

i tried to warn,
sorry for the folks that chose to sit idly by and not partake with $35

link to the site with the listed features, so far, of the VGA QMS software under development

https://vegatoken.org/qms-v01-0-0-specs

this software was designed from VEGA FREE WISDOM and reflects our common needs whilst satisfying our common desires
i will post a video of QMS running on  a Vega rig to demonstrate its features after testing is complete

see you at ITO
(got a 6 gpu Asus Vega64 Strix rig to build  )

[Smashingmanson]

From the start this thread was as weird it could get, filled with different crazy comments from the OP.

I still remmember the ones where he claimed where he didnt care bout profit (by mining ETH...) and just ignored everyone giving him tips. Eventually he just followed what everyone was telling him (Vega -> cryptonight) but he always made it sound like he discovered the wheel.

So wisdom was something you couldnt really find here, at least from him and i never really understood his end game.

Now with this crap token its pretty obvious what his goal was, get money off people.

So tldr: you cant expect any wisdom or anything free here.

[Iamtutut]

Very interesting, but I don't have a Vega 64 and won't purchase one, soon, they are still overpriced (Vega 56 +/- 800€).

[Sgsg666]

Fan cooler ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6hvsqUEtZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iegpwo9SqSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yQHAMz1v5g
Ball bearings: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3267631.0

Optimized miner:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3264773.msg34028507#msg34028507(Im not sure if this will be updated)

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From the start this thread was as weird it could get, filled with different crazy comments from the OP.

I still remmember the ones where he claimed where he didnt care bout profit (by mining ETH...) and just ignored everyone giving him tips. Eventually he just followed what everyone was telling him (Vega -> cryptonight) but he always made it sound like he discovered the wheel.

So wisdom was something you couldnt really find here, at least from him and i never really understood his end game.

Now with this crap token its pretty obvious what his goal was, get money off people.

So tldr: you cant expect any wisdom or anything free here.

oh well done, you figured it all out Hercule
maybe you could do the one on Nile next?

its people like you who discourage people like me from doing the legwork for all
assuming youre not poodatroll re-newbiefied

i have paid for the QMS software to be developed i am not a programmer, and it cost much more than what you will end up paying for and this does not include future projects that you will also not pay for and you think this is about money? 0fee mining pools and 0fee miners are about money too numbnuts?

IM NOT MINING JUST FOR PROFITS

IM TRYING TO CHANGE THE WORLD

so if you are too stupid and/or psychologicaly/financialy complexed to comprehend that, stand out of the way and watch
(or go back to your amd sponsored cubicle)

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and while we are on the subject of wisdom

testing Sumo heavy

heres what i did today and no i did not copy it from anyone but sat and played with the intensity until it was max without buffer error
stak xmr amd.txt single thread file

keep in mind this is for 6 GPU setup

Code:

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 0,
    "intensity" : 1012, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 1,
    "intensity" : 1012, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 2,
    "intensity" : 1012, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 3,
    "intensity" : 1012, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 4,
    "intensity" : 1012, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 5,
    "intensity" : 1012, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },

],

/*
 * Platform index. This will be 0 unless you have different OpenCL platform - eg. AMD and Intel.
 */
"platform_index" : 1,

here is the double thread amd.txt file but its not so stable, you must tweak the primary and secondary intensities from 1000 and 800 to lower values that work for you

Code:

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 0,
    "intensity" : 1000, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  { "index" : 0,
    "intensity" : 800, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 1,
    "intensity" : 1000, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  { "index" : 1,
    "intensity" : 800, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 2,
    "intensity" : 1000, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  { "index" : 2,
    "intensity" : 800, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 3,
    "intensity" : 1000, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  { "index" : 3,
    "intensity" : 800, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 4,
    "intensity" : 1000, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  { "index" : 4,
    "intensity" : 800, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: gfx901 memory:3920
  // compute units: 64
  { "index" : 5,
    "intensity" : 1000, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },
  { "index" : 5,
    "intensity" : 800, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 1, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "comp_mode" : true
  },

],

/*
 * Platform index. This will be 0 unless you have different OpenCL platform - eg. AMD and Intel.
 */
"platform_index" : 1,

hope that helps, i used the 0fee recompiled version found here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3264773.0

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preliminary results  ECO mode:

6x64s 1 asus mining mobo, 4 fans, 1 ssd, 1 screen

mining Sumo heavy 835W@5200H approx

thats around 6.23H/W

used the above single thread amd.txt edit to achieve with standard cryptonight settings core 1212, 1408, and 1100Mem

try it out for yourselves and let me know

ps its nice to see print of temp, cpu load, cpu frq, mem frg, fan % (for now) while running xmr stak (or any miner),


https://imgur.com/6svEjln

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Fan cooler ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6hvsqUEtZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iegpwo9SqSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yQHAMz1v5g
Ball bearings: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3267631.0

Optimized miner:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3264773.msg34028507#msg34028507(Im not sure if this will be updated)

thnx Sg

I'm going to be building a fortified, insulated, fanned shed to house the rigs (including 6 ASUS STRIX64's arrived this morning   https://imgur.com/Akho3Cr )
had the idea of burying a long length of ventilation pipe in the ground and venting it out from a grill on the floor past the gpus and out through fans in the ceiling
obviously gpus have to be upright with blower facing up, like my current set up

i believe that the cooler soil about 1.5-2m down will cool the outside air intake on its way to the floor grill in the rig room, like a free airconditioner
well, im just waiting for the snow to melt so i can start, i will post pics of the build and report temp results during the summer

i have also been developing a Peltier system recycling heat to electricity in a feed back loop, but im far from being able to say more at this point

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got the 2 FEs on 2 thread each, intensity 980 660 @2540H both,

ddu
install 2 drivers etc method to disable/enable

std settings as before

450W 2xFE, mobo, 2 fans, ssd, risers = 5.6H/W

I'm sure they all have more to give and I haven't even started overclocking....

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getting 7435h from 6x64 and 2815h from 2xFE
only 100w and 30w more

no oc yet just intensity tweaking

[bandana121]

getting 7435h from 6x64 and 2815h from 2xFE
only 100w and 30w more

no oc yet just intensity tweaking

You'll have to excuse me but my knowlege of this subject is extemely limited.

Would I be correct in understanding that your working on getting the vega 64 running on 2 threads? If so, using this method what would be your 'ideal' outcome in terms of hashing power from a single card be? (potentially ~4000h/s working on the basis a single thread would be ~2000h/s?).

P.S. Please don't laugh too much if if I've completely misundertood the subject.

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getting 7435h from 6x64 and 2815h from 2xFE
only 100w and 30w more

no oc yet just intensity tweaking

You'll have to excuse me but my knowlege of this subject is extemely limited.

Would I be correct in understanding that your working on getting the vega 64 running on 2 threads? If so, using this method what would be your 'ideal' outcome in terms of hashing power from a single card be? (potentially ~4000h/s working on the basis a single thread would be ~2000h/s?).

P.S. Please don't laugh too much if if I've completely misundertood the subject.

if you see the 2 amd.txt  code boxes above you will notice the top has a single (GPU) index 0,1,2,3,4,5 entry at a high intensity whereas the bottom box has 2 entries per (GPU) index 0,1,2,3,4,5 at lower and scaled intensity

managed 1370h / gpu with the double thread per GPU (index) but have settled at 1230h with a 25% wattage reduction due to the QMS XMR ECO setting with core temps in the low 30s high 20s

we have reduced the values of the lower core states and their voltages by rewritting the powerplay table and creating 4 new registry variations so far that act as presets of user choice
Activation of a preset also means crossfire check and disable/enable refreshing the GPU after a possible automatic or manual restart

restarting the miner after crash has literaly been totaly automated with all Cryptonight Vega specific dual thread mining otherwise timeconsuming prerequisites satisfied

all by pushing 1 button,
i was able to do trial and error testing to find the sweet spot in hours instead of days because of this new software
and i still havent oc yet