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Author Topic: [ANN] [XDAG] Community Driven - First Mineable DAG | CPU Mining  (Read 75293 times)
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December 24, 2017, 05:00:11 AM
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I like your coin dev and I like your code, would be nice if you added more comments in your code though  Wink but I understand it enough. I will run a full node when main net goes live. Though I agree with most of the other people on here. CHEAT should be renamed. It has a very negative connotation in English speaking countries.

F - those english speakin.. they are minority against all xD
Personally my opinion is that this is the best name for crypto coin. because in general all currency, and crypto currency as well or even more is sort of cheat mode in order to exchange some material goods and/or services (because by itself it has no real value at all).

Why is this coin called CheatCoin? Care devs explain further why is this project created?

Please read our white paper http://cheatcoin.atwebpages.com/Cheatcoin.doc. The goal is to create a distributed payment system with a large capacity, which is based on the DAG instead of blockchain. The name is already recognized as bad. However it attracts attention well.)

The project is very interesting and it looks like you (dev) is really serious about it. I suggest to make a rebranding before launch, cheating sounds really bad to me...

I agree with you. Cheat might attract people's attention, but doesn't sound like a serious project.

I suggest no rebranding or renaming. It is humans right for intellectual freedom to attach any kind of meaning for words. i.e. geek today it has more positive meaning than about hundred years ago..
there is no bad words, but now cheatcoin miner and wallet is little bit behind from starting.
From comments above it can not be launched due flaws in security (maybe it was improved a bit) and sync algorithms. Good money trading system should trustworthy , but since is lacking in QA. it is a bit rush to start in less than 3 weeks of simple level testing. My personal opinion first 'real' coins probably can be asked to be eliminated before it evaluates to real cash-money market, or after that we can wait for huge hacking attack after this coin gets significant dollar value (everything has extreme security level until it represent no value). For darknet transactions - it is whatever if someone is buyin' and someone is sellin' then nobody cares about security nonsence until somebody gets spotted stealing coins in large amounts.

I would prefer quality product. Now it looks fragile to be real one. It needs to gain few layers of armour.

Sorry for criticism, but I don't have good solutions, cause this is not my area of expertise and I do not see exact weak spots (but there was some major and I believe there is few left).
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December 24, 2017, 05:51:56 AM
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Can I Have the countdown when is the main net will start? Tongue
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December 24, 2017, 06:08:32 AM
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I suggest no rebranding or renaming. It is humans right for intellectual freedom to attach any kind of meaning for words. i.e. geek today it has more positive meaning than about hundred years ago..
there is no bad words, but now cheatcoin miner and wallet is little bit behind from starting.
From comments above it can not be launched due flaws in security (maybe it was improved a bit) and sync algorithms. Good money trading system should trustworthy , but since is lacking in QA. it is a bit rush to start in less than 3 weeks of simple level testing. My personal opinion first 'real' coins probably can be asked to be eliminated before it evaluates to real cash-money market, or after that we can wait for huge hacking attack after this coin gets significant dollar value (everything has extreme security level until it represent no value). For darknet transactions - it is whatever if someone is buyin' and someone is sellin' then nobody cares about security nonsence until somebody gets spotted stealing coins in large amounts.

I would prefer quality product. Now it looks fragile to be real one. It needs to gain few layers of armour.

Sorry for criticism, but I don't have good solutions, cause this is not my area of expertise and I do not see exact weak spots (but there was some major and I believe there is few left).

Personally, I do not hurry to go out to real markets, register on stock exchanges, etc. I think that if the idea is worthwhile, the network should grows on its own. There are problems in security and synchronization. Synchronization is done deliberately slowly, so as not to overload my server, since there really is only one server the network with a public address. When there will be more servers, nothing will prevent changing one parameter in the program and the synchronization can be performed in minutes. Regarding security - yes, I did not think well of the security of users working in an insecure system like Windows. In the next release, this will be fixed. As for the general audit code - please invite experts. But then again, I will not pay for it. I think we need to develop slowly. In any case, the money mined in the main network will remain real and will wait for its time.

Speaking of synchronization one thing I've noticed is that even when you are all caught up, if you have to restart the program it still takes a while as it recounts through all the main blocks. Since the data is already downloaded to the storage folder is there any reason the program needs to take this long counting from 0 to the current block? Can it not just pickup and download from the last block stored in the storage folder?
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December 24, 2017, 06:53:10 AM
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whats the status of this project, is this already over before even starting properly ? any update fromt he dev or team?
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December 24, 2017, 07:58:51 AM
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I read this thread since the beginning. Looks really interesting, especially to be involved since the beginning. Any Updates for launch today? Do we need a new version of the Walletprogramm, do we need to change anything except the -D parameter? Do we need to delete the walletfile and create a new one? Can we leave the program open already now to get acting to the Network from the beginning with?
How about a Group on Facebook?
Already got a cool Logo :-) ?

all in all a neat Project and i am glad to be in from the beginning.
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December 24, 2017, 08:25:47 AM
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Hey, do you think Cheatcoin uses different units? Like Raiblocks, it has the following units: Mrai, Krai, rai. The smallest unit rai transaction can be generated. As far as I know, it also uses DAG technology.

As far as I understand, there is a cheatoshi smallest unit, so 1 cheatcoin = approx 4 billions of cheatoshi.
OK, I got it. Thanks.
Another question,
1.What is the total supply of cheatcoin, what is the mining algorithm. (I think mining of cryptocurrency has these two parameters, right?)
2.Mining is for trading or just for generating cheatcoin?
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December 24, 2017, 08:56:45 AM
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i always stay stuck to the generating host key thing....
At a moment it say's "OK" but nothing more happen right now.

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December 24, 2017, 09:18:09 AM
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Seems interesting.

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December 24, 2017, 09:36:39 AM
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OK. Will create a facebookgroup right now. anyone could join, however no referals, ico-promotions or MLM promos will be allowed there.
Group will be called Cheatcoin https://www.facebook.com/groups/1788490971185793/

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December 24, 2017, 09:47:37 AM
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i always stay stuck to the generating host key thing....
At a moment it say's "OK" but nothing more happen right now.

May be file netdb.txt (or netdb-testnet.txt for testnet) is absent in the working folder of the program? You need to start Windows terminal first, then go to the folder where archive is unpacked and then run program from this folder.

okayyyy...
in fact i've used a .bat file that i have edited with "cheatcoin.exe -d ..." it work last night with the testnet..
going to have a look on it in the day ;-)

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December 24, 2017, 09:52:50 AM
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Do you have such airdrop or bounty canpaign ?
Thank you
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December 24, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
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i always stay stuck to the generating host key thing....
At a moment it say's "OK" but nothing more happen right now.

May be file netdb.txt (or netdb-testnet.txt for testnet) is absent in the working folder of the program?

The netdb.txt just contains this ip 52.5.32.68:13654 am i right?

EDIT: i've just realised that the mainnet launch is tonight...
That's maybe why it doesn't work ^^

Gonna come at this moment to have a look, or it is working already?

I have created a Discord channel to have better communication => https://discord.gg/zT7DW2N<= , can you please add it on the main Ann?


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December 24, 2017, 10:32:55 AM
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yes. Mine also got stuck after generating. I just did a strg+c the restarted and it started downloading blocks. After finishing it started mining, as it should. TX also works without problem.
But there are a few hickups which must be fixed soon for security reasons:
-No Password is needed to do a TX, so everyone who is on your PC could do a TX (Trojan Remote Desktop Problem)
-No reply for faulty commands
-Dont know how to recover faulty deleted / corrupted wallet.dat
-No Fancy GUI (lol)

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December 24, 2017, 11:01:13 AM
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Hello cheatoshin0 & all,

This project look very interessting, I'm looking forward to the launch tonight.  Smiley

Therefore I have some question about mining:

When the main net will be launched and I wil use the command:

Code:
cheatcoin.exe -d -m 1
I will be mining with 1 thread of my CPU, right?

The GPU miner will come later separately ? Or it will be already possible to mine with GPU ?

Thanks!
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December 24, 2017, 11:13:53 AM
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-d means daemon mode, without it has a text based UI, like a shell to receive commands. What the difference is... idk. maybe the Dev could clarify. No GPU Mining so far...
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December 24, 2017, 11:17:47 AM
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Are we launched yet?

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December 24, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
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Let me introduce Cheatcoin.

Principles:
- Directed acyclic graph, not blockchain
- Block = transaction = address
- Mineable, no premine, no ICO
- New money generates every 64 seconds
- Simple original C realization, its not a clone of another soft
- Double sha256 hash, ECDSA cryptography (openssl)

Official site: http://cheatcoin.atwebpages.com
Code on Github: https://github.com/cheatoshin/cheatcoin

Test net is running.
Main net is planned to begin December 24, 2017.

Welcome!
Is your main net going to lauchn tonight, right ? Pls show me more information about your coin Smiley
Btw, Your name coin is really weird.  
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December 24, 2017, 11:46:24 AM
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When does it start, dev, I can't link to the mainnet
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December 24, 2017, 11:53:30 AM
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mainnet launch early evening, as mentioned on project homepage
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December 24, 2017, 12:31:09 PM
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When does it start, dev, I can't link to the mainnet

Disclaimed in the main Ann and on the website :
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Attention! Start time for main net: Sunday, December 24, 2017, 19:29:04 GMT.


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