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January 04, 2018, 12:56:28 PM
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how can I mine? (I'm noob)
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January 04, 2018, 01:17:20 PM
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Where can i find a roadmap?I like this DAG coin really.
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January 04, 2018, 01:35:47 PM
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And what is the purpose of this coin? Because there is little information in the ANN initial post, what will be the total amount of coins?

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January 04, 2018, 03:39:09 PM
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hi all....could someone pls send me some test coins
GUTvj8AuzMAari/rdeo75+SIKhckMZuN
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January 04, 2018, 03:45:39 PM
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hi all....could someone pls send me some test coins
GUTvj8AuzMAari/rdeo75+SIKhckMZuN
thanx

that was quick...thank u
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January 04, 2018, 04:14:08 PM
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Start mining now ?
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January 04, 2018, 04:19:51 PM
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hi all....could someone pls send me some test coins
GUTvj8AuzMAari/rdeo75+SIKhckMZuN
thanx

that was quick...thank u

sended 100 from my address 7ZeUXTkh9RTV76seZ9KpY7PVx6LXXJqW

bye luca
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January 04, 2018, 04:23:52 PM
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When is it going on a exchange site ?
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January 04, 2018, 04:28:19 PM
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Start mining now ?
mainnet on saturday morning 6:45am gmt+8

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January 04, 2018, 04:32:41 PM
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hi all....could someone pls send me some test coins
GUTvj8AuzMAari/rdeo75+SIKhckMZuN
thanx

that was quick...thank u

sended 100 from my address 7ZeUXTkh9RTV76seZ9KpY7PVx6LXXJqW

bye luca
thanks...sent u back some profit
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January 04, 2018, 04:42:26 PM
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hi all....could someone pls send me some test coins
GUTvj8AuzMAari/rdeo75+SIKhckMZuN
thanx

that was quick...thank u

sended 100 from my address 7ZeUXTkh9RTV76seZ9KpY7PVx6LXXJqW

bye luca
thanks...sent u back some profit


yeah! very good...

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January 04, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
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looking really good
I have a few questions....
when qt wallet comes out, will we be able to just transfer wallet.dat to maintain addresses and balances etc?
is there currently a way to monitor our hash rate and network hash rate....or is it just "shares" for now?
not quite sure I understand the keys (0,1,2...etc)...are these supposed to be the private keys to each generated address?
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January 04, 2018, 05:44:38 PM
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looking really good
I have a few questions....
when qt wallet comes out, will we be able to just transfer wallet.dat to maintain addresses and balances etc?
is there currently a way to monitor our hash rate and network hash rate....or is it just "shares" for now?
not quite sure I understand the keys (0,1,2...etc)...are these supposed to be the private keys to each generated address?

The wallet will not be based on Qt, but on the MS Visual Studio. I'm doing it now, maybe tomorrow will come out. Yes, of course, the files wallet.dat and dnet_key.dat can simply be transferred from one directory to another, and the address and password will be preserved. The hash rate is now counted very roughly and is displayed in the stats command for full nodes and pools. Stats is not transmitted yet to miners but should be in future.

If you make a transfer from your address, then your public key published. If you do not want to keep money at address whose public key is known, then you can use the keygen command to create another private key and then transfer the balance to another address corresponding to the new key. This feature is not yet available to the miners, but only to full nodes. For now miners have one key and one address.
excellent...keep up the great work
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January 04, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
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looking really good
I have a few questions....
when qt wallet comes out, will we be able to just transfer wallet.dat to maintain addresses and balances etc?
is there currently a way to monitor our hash rate and network hash rate....or is it just "shares" for now?
not quite sure I understand the keys (0,1,2...etc)...are these supposed to be the private keys to each generated address?

The wallet will not be based on Qt, but on the MS Visual Studio. I'm doing it now, maybe tomorrow will come out. Yes, of course, the files wallet.dat and dnet_key.dat can simply be transferred from one directory to another, and the address and password will be preserved. The hash rate is now counted very roughly and is displayed in the stats command for full nodes and pools. Stats is not transmitted yet to miners but should be in future.

If you make a transfer from your address, then your public key published. If you do not want to keep money at address whose public key is known, then you can use the keygen command to create another private key and then transfer the balance to another address corresponding to the new key. This feature is not yet available to the miners, but only to full nodes. For now miners have one key and one address.
Interesting. Sounds complicated a bit but will try to cheatmine a bit tomorrow. Happy cheating to everyone.
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January 04, 2018, 07:07:54 PM
Last edit: January 04, 2018, 07:27:23 PM by fayrez
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hello again,

0. if you did not already -> change coin amount storageing type from float (single) to decimal, as should be used to store currency values) - or then it will take enormous amount of storage space in pool ?
1. please add -w option for initial run (alongside -m -t options, w for passWord xD) for those who are confident, that they have secure systems.

2. a. what is the mechanism of miner/pool versions to allow to be connected
    b. and have a save wallet?
context: had updated from 'yesterday's' to 'today's' version -> "f*ed" up the wallet (lost address and all testcoins in it).
             but that should not be, unless that was intentional with new release to wipe everything clean (should be mentioned in release's description maybe?.. or hint for some way to fix this may be in next sentence)
             for the first run it requires to set password and generates host keys. but after update it just asked for password, so user may assume that wallet was saved, but after checking -> oh you have been robbed. (I think that requires some fixing too)
c. also there is no way to check wallet offline [and no last known date when that wallet was validated by network -> maybe that can be extracted from log data, but it is not convenient for the average user. so implementation would be nice].
d. that means validation only by network, but what if one pool has been disconnected (like ISP problem occurs for couple of hours, when can not connect outside your country) and some people still mining on it, how validation process is going for that ?
how it is decided which pools data is valid and which ones has not valid data?
e. I have checked this thing: changed with yesterdays from today version, and all older testcoins are here. shouldn't be the same wallet for any version of miner? this coin/program version validation process seems weird (or non existent)


P.S. sorry if I have messed up this part, cause I did testing tasks when wrote, so there will be redundant questions, but leave it anyway to give more (raw) info for dev...

3. there are another connection check delay issue (or not) -> connected to the testnet. set mining 0, or connected with default -m 0. disconnected LAN cable (wifi was off too. ie. discord gets its status changed within less than 5secs, so i was really offline).
if I give commands as 'state' 'account' 'balance' -> there was ok, said that for different time intervals check two times one was about 2m 55s, other 2m 35s -> margin of error is +- 2sec (set some delay in script how often write a command to check state). I did not test it more, because of that around 20 sec gap.
 i suggest make that more fixed than this. and give some option like default time to check if connected and manual option for time to check connection status (min value maybe 30sec or more)

above my concerns about essential functionality. especially number 2. It smells like #2 for me. so I gave that number on purpose...

these are just bonuses, but still useful
4. a.>> some status automatisation: some hashrate or smth like that status in miner? (helps to check better mining performance within cpu that are like 2c/4t and 4c/4t)
b. >> maybe sdtout can be with some time stamp {in windows there none, idk about linux version}?
it may be useful in end user (which usually do not know about .log -> and to find something in it requires some patience too...) perspective when checking account or sending
c. >> in 'state'. please add mining threads count instead only "mining on" status. like "mining on "+N+" threads"... cause if there are 2c/4t cpu,  can be pressed by accident 7 instead of 4, and that is not good for mining (already tried).
until the time where it will be some implementation in GUI with logged data...

please do not quote my large posts and save thread space. I insert simple numbering to maintain basic clarity for diff parts.
edit: please do not requote posts (and save forum thread space for more readability)

edit#2:
what the ?
cheatcoin> account
qft1tyDsTPOt9fFmukRjeChH7BcAq+dt      24448.194650061  key 0
cheatcoin> account
qft1tyDsTPOt9fFmukRjeChH7BcAq+dt      24448.194716423  key 0

haven't been mining at all just connected to the testnet
and I did not made any transfer
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January 04, 2018, 07:56:07 PM
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nice thing,
but if I missed please repeat how do you deal with actual cheaters in those two scenarios:
I.  max pool connections can be filled up with 'empty' miners -> i'm not talking about botnet, just i.e. thousand (or more) miners -m 0 and and just wait for some coins xD,
II. or do it with purpose to fill up pool and eliminate possibility for other miners(people) connecting to pool -> getting sort of solo mining carrier with no or very little concurrents -> which effects many things.
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January 04, 2018, 08:16:10 PM
Last edit: January 04, 2018, 08:33:55 PM by fayrez
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i understood that previously,  and raised a question for dealing with that kind of security issues to get clean (useful) currency.
if that kind of bug occurs -> wallets can be stolen, market crash, and etc, if you can transfer money from dirty wallet, a.k.a money laundering..
I suggest to insert some kind of system for upgrading wallet/client/pool to new version, to prevent  direct transfer from bad/dirty client and/or wallet, what i did easily.
Also determine in currency policy what/when how coin idea deal with those kind of things. It is ok now when testcoin, but for real coin there should be some strategic rules to maintain whole process in tact
edit: what concerns me, that dirty client and/or wallet was accepted by network...

If the pool has already paid the money, and after that they have left, then they also leaves from those to whom it paid.
that was not clear to me (probably the meaning was lost for me in translation at some point).

In the post above it is valid (same) process in currency exchange sites as you described in program? Cause I bet that all participants have hope to push this coin in to the 'real' world too.
So wondering if you have developing this project in that manner, which can be implemented within a time without refreshing whole mining progress...
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January 04, 2018, 08:33:40 PM
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Guidelines for mainnet launch:

1) Keep you system time aligned with GMT.
2) Use the latest version of the software >= T13.793.
3) If you have not running a pool, then it is recommended to run a miner instead of a full node.
4) Strictly recommended: do not run full node if you have not white ip address with a port opened for external connections. Such a nodes may be disconnected in the case of network overload.


Question about number 3: what are the two command to run either full node or just mining mode.

Full Node:
>cheatcoin.exe -m 1 .......


Mining Mode:
>cheatcoin.exe -m 1 .......
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January 04, 2018, 10:49:15 PM
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Cool project Cheato! Successfully mined some coins on the testnet pool, and like your level of active engagement. I spent a bit of time brainstorming on a name and the best I have come up with is "dagger".  (keyword "dag" and also known as a fast, sharp weapon).

I grabbed daggercoin.org - happy to xfer for free if wanted.
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January 04, 2018, 10:58:14 PM
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Has the total max amount of Cheatcoin been reduced?

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