[ANN] [XDAG] Community Driven - First Mineable DAG | CPU Mining

[thomasab]

I now know why dev is going, because your community is shit.

It is so pity that you are disappointed in community. The original sources are very entagled, it takes some time to understand some things. I hope you are not expecting all things to be done right now.

If you are wondering how is it going:
Current version T13.895 is considered as 0.1.895. Next release version is 0.2.0
Last changes in community repo: https://github.com/XDagger/xdag/tree/develop
Some planned changes for 0.2.0 (from my side):
- information about last N blocks for block explorer https://github.com/jonano614/xdag/tree/LastBlocksInfo
- possibilty to run pool on Windows https://github.com/jonano614/xdag/tree/WinPool
- slight improvements for GUI version of wallet https://github.com/jonano614/xdag/tree/GuiWallet
Probably something more will be ready before release.
Also a lot of code-style changes are done.

Also there is a chinese team. These guys are working on mobile client.

Sincerely, Evgeniy.

I'm sorry, I'm a little angry, I thought he was a member of the community, I was sorry for what I said.

[thomasab]

I now know why dev is going, because your community is shit.

I there,

Can you please read your PM on this board?
Can you please don't insult people? Because in fact, i just don't know who is cstate1 and as he said, he is not a involved member of the community you talking about.

Please take contact with the community on the Discord or at least on our Telegram, Btactalk is not our board, we don't manage the community from here.

And so please again, stop insult us.It's not because you reply to somebody that you don't love that you have to insult the whole work done.

I'm sorry, I'm a little angry, I thought he was a member of the community, I was sorry for what I said.

[jonano]

great work... and I know Protovist has been working to try and fix the bugs in the linux miner so although we are still early days, I see a bright future for XDAG.
Still.. more days not mining is a pain... there should be a note in the OP to let people know that we have identified issues with the linux miner...

Code:

raskul - Today at 07:39
good morning! any joy fixing the bugs?
Protovist - Today at 07:43
Not yet.  The more I look at it the more it looks like an architectural problem with the miner.  Only the "best" (lowest) hash is submitted for each iteration, so adding additional GPUs doesn't help the number of shares submitted.

Yes, my thanks to Protovist too for the porting GPU miner to Linux.

Regarding his answer about GPU miner: architecture of GPU miner is similar to architecture of CPU-miner. After recieving a new task miner has some time to find descent share and then this share is sent to pool. All further shares for this task must be more difficult than previous. Pool anyway ignores all shares with low difficulty (because good shares were recieved previously), but your nopaid share value will decrease, because nopaid shares value is calculated as average value based on your shares. So it is your interest to send each next share for each task with more difficulty than previous. In fact the logic of calculated is very complicated and I wasted a lot of time to make the pools happy with shares recieved from GPU miner.
For example you can send about 10 shares with 10+ leading zeros, it are very good shares, but one wrong share will make your income close to zero.

Using several GPUs has sense. The mining is actually a process of searching of some 64-bit value called nonce, which gives the lowest possible hash of block (nonce is written to block header). So GPU just start from some random nonce and increments this value for each hash. If use several GPUs - each GPU searches nonce in own range. So your chances to find a good nonce increases. One hand is good, but two hands is better.

[rgsnedds]

great work... and I know Protovist has been working to try and fix the bugs in the linux miner so although we are still early days, I see a bright future for XDAG.
Still.. more days not mining is a pain... there should be a note in the OP to let people know that we have identified issues with the linux miner...

Code:

raskul - Today at 07:39
good morning! any joy fixing the bugs?
Protovist - Today at 07:43
Not yet.  The more I look at it the more it looks like an architectural problem with the miner.  Only the "best" (lowest) hash is submitted for each iteration, so adding additional GPUs doesn't help the number of shares submitted.

Yes, my thanks to Protovist too for the porting GPU miner to Linux.

Regarding his answer about GPU miner: architecture of GPU miner is similar to architecture of CPU-miner. After recieving a new task miner has some time to find descent share and then this share is sent to pool. All further shares for this task must be more difficult than previous. Pool anyway ignores all shares with low difficulty (because good shares were recieved previously), but your nopaid share value will decrease, because nopaid shares value is calculated as average value based on your shares. So it is your interest to send each next share for each task with more difficulty than previous.

Using several GPUs has sense. The mining is actually a process of searching of some 64-bit value called nonce, which gives the lowest possible hash of block (nonce is written to block header). So GPU just start from some random nonce and increments this value for each hash. If use several GPUs - each GPU searches nonce in own range. So your chances to find a good nonce increases. One hand is good, but two hands is better.

Hopefully the problems will be fixed soon. I can't mine XDAG until the linux miner is working properly and others will not be getting the correct shares if they are mining using the linux miner.

[jonano]

Hopefully the problems will be fixed soon. I can't mine XDAG until the linux miner is working properly and others will not be getting the correct shares if they are mining using the linux miner.

Linux is ok for mining, there is some problem with miming in Ethos OS.

[Carisba]

Where is the whitepaper?

[rgsnedds]

Hopefully the problems will be fixed soon. I can't mine XDAG until the linux miner is working properly and others will not be getting the correct shares if they are mining using the linux miner.

Linux is ok for mining, there is some problem with miming in Ethos OS.

Ethos is just the terminal for Ubuntu on our miners... we have 260 cards running on it mining equihash, and never had any problems. Only ever a problem with this miner on XDAG...
Protovist has already advised that there is a problem and he is trying to fix it.

[HacktionMan]

Where is the whitepaper?

site is being transferred from xdag.org to xdag.io

Whitepaper is there but you need to wait for the download link to work again.
Thanks for your patience,.

[rgsnedds]

Where is the whitepaper?

site is being transferred from xdag.org to xdag.io

Whitepaper is there but you need to wait for the download link to work again.
Thanks for your patience,.

https://ufile.io/jr26t

[soulcancer]

Christ....every time I look at this thread it keeps getting smaller...is the ministry of truth rewriting history?

[soulcancer]

There used to be 125 pages in this thread. Now only 110 pages are showing up. Does anyone know what happened?

now its 103

[rgsnedds]

There used to be 125 pages in this thread. Now only 110 pages are showing up. Does anyone know what happened?

now its 103

it's got a bug that skims 90% off the posts 

[katlogic]

Can a dev confirm/deny this analysis is correct?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ccpolice/comments/80i2yb/a_a_closer_look_at_dagger_xdagcheatcoin/

Unfortunately the code could benefit from some cleaning up to make it more clear what it does, can't really tell for sure myself without running a small testnet.

If the analysis is correct, what needs to be done to modify the total order rule so that TXNs are confirmed in parallel (main chain -> main tree)? I gather it would complicate the code a bit, but it would be a shame keeping XDAG stuck up like it seems to be.

[SuperiorCoin]

Hellp Bob I saw you commenting about or coin. Please stop it has been stolen

[akai]

Did the original dev of  disappear?Who is the development now?XDAG is sure to be a new project for the next generation.Because there is no block efficiency, the operation efficiency has been greatly improved.

[kbs1]

Dear miners,

xdagpool.com has moved to new DDoS protected server.

IP address is: 136.243.55.153

If you used our command line, and you are connecting to pool.xdagpool.com, PLEASE RESTART YOUR MINER!

If you are connecting directly to our old IP, 95.105.233.208, please UPDATE your miner command line and enter new IP: 136.243.55.153 and restart your miner!

New connections to old IP are redirected, old connections are kept. Please migrate as soon as possible!

Looking forward to see you on our new pool address!

[bestcryptoexistence]

Almost laughed my arse off at the fourth quiz variant.

[Manollo]

Did the original dev of  disappear?Who is the development now?XDAG is sure to be a new project for the next generation.Because there is no block efficiency, the operation efficiency has been greatly improved.

What is xdag providing compared to other coins? Developer left his own project and nobody knows to understand his code. Only to translate the code and doing small things like website design doensn't mean anything. In my opinion xdag it's not worth to be mined or to hold further. Holding means losing money as there are many other coins which are outperforming last days.

[rgsnedds]

Did the original dev of  disappear?Who is the development now?XDAG is sure to be a new project for the next generation.Because there is no block efficiency, the operation efficiency has been greatly improved.

What is xdag providing compared to other coins? Developer left his own project and nobody knows to understand his code. Only to translate the code and doing small things like website design doensn't mean anything. In my opinion xdag it's not worth to be mined or to hold further. Holding means losing money as there are many other coins which are outperforming last days.

XDAG is the first mineable Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) coin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph

the entire protocol is in it's early infancy.
I won't give financial advice to you regarding which coins you should buy or mine, but this community is growing and has a lot of good people who are interested in learning more about the protocol.


in response to your post:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Opinions%20Are%20Like%20Assholes.

[kbs1]

Did the original dev of  disappear?Who is the development now?XDAG is sure to be a new project for the next generation.Because there is no block efficiency, the operation efficiency has been greatly improved.

What is xdag providing compared to other coins? Developer left his own project and nobody knows to understand his code. Only to translate the code and doing small things like website design doensn't mean anything. In my opinion xdag it's not worth to be mined or to hold further. Holding means losing money as there are many other coins which are outperforming last days.

Every developer needs some time to understand the code and get familiar with the project when it is being handed over to him. We can't expect any new developer to have exactly the same mindset / knowledge about the code as cheatoshin0 had instantly, and yes the code is complex, but I believe it will be simplified in the future, and improved, and the fact that devs are committing translated comments, code style changes etc means at least they are LOOKING at the code, and analysing it, which is a great thing.