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Author Topic: [ANN][ICO] Fire Lotto - International blockchain LOTTERY  (Read 13459 times)
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March 19, 2018, 09:04:51 PM
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What's the deal with the scamming and fake team members? Anyone invested it already?

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March 19, 2018, 09:10:10 PM
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What's the deal with the scamming and fake team members? Anyone invested it already?

Which fake team members are you talking about? The 'scam team' members, or, the 'Fire Lotto' team members?

Yes, I invested and then my name was added to list of 'scam team' members by the 'Fire Lotto' team members.
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March 19, 2018, 09:11:50 PM
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Most of us who discovered the scam found out AFTER we invested.

1.  Ronnee Ades -- Confirmed Fake Advisor     (Call her if you want 732-241-2138)

2.  Robert Matuk --- Confirmed Fake Advisor, (Contact him on Linked In)

3.  Elena Bogdanova -- Fake Person, 2 differnet pictures (1 on Cash Poker Pro, another on Firelotto.io)

4.  Fake addresses -- Cyprus, Singapore, Hong Kong

5.  CLOSED SOURCE Ethereum Contracts



FAKE SCAMMING LYING RUSSIAN CRIMINALS!!!
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March 20, 2018, 01:57:32 AM
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What's the deal with the scamming and fake team members? Anyone invested it already?
This story is weird for a long time, both of "teams" argue themselves and upload many pictures....however the firelotto team has a problem, because they have to provide proofs about this project to persuade people, that this project is legit. If we ask yourself simple question, how much money they would potentionally lost due to this accusation - the answer is probably a lot. They had two simple solution. Firstly, release the whole code. Does FL team really think, that if you release your code after ICO, the situation will change? If your competitors want to use your code, they will do that sooner or later. Secondly the FL team could spend a half an hour and ask their advisors....they can clarify situation via social media. Instead of, the FL team play this game with pictures....
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March 20, 2018, 03:22:37 AM
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What's the deal with the scamming and fake team members? Anyone invested it already?
This story is weird for a long time, both of "teams" argue themselves and upload many pictures....however the firelotto team has a problem, because they have to provide proofs about this project to persuade people, that this project is legit. If we ask yourself simple question, how much money they would potentionally lost due to this accusation - the answer is probably a lot. They had two simple solution. Firstly, release the whole code. Does FL team really think, that if you release your code after ICO, the situation will change? If your competitors want to use your code, they will do that sooner or later. Secondly the FL team could spend a half an hour and ask their advisors....they can clarify situation via social media. Instead of, the FL team play this game with pictures....

This makes a whole lot of sense. Releasing code now or later will matter little. I don't know how to read code myself, but if code was released we could then have several different people weighing in on it.

A picture is worth a million words they say. I would rather hear fewer words right from the horse's mouth. Another big problem here continues to be the language barrier. This forum needs someone close to the team who has a strong command of English language.
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March 20, 2018, 05:44:25 AM
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What's the deal with the scamming and fake team members? Anyone invested it already?
This story is weird for a long time, both of "teams" argue themselves and upload many pictures....however the firelotto team has a problem, because they have to provide proofs about this project to persuade people, that this project is legit. If we ask yourself simple question, how much money they would potentionally lost due to this accusation - the answer is probably a lot. They had two simple solution. Firstly, release the whole code. Does FL team really think, that if you release your code after ICO, the situation will change? If your competitors want to use your code, they will do that sooner or later. Secondly the FL team could spend a half an hour and ask their advisors....they can clarify situation via social media. Instead of, the FL team play this game with pictures....

well, not sure about the whole "two simple solutions" story. To me, it's rather about actions taken by their competitors: scammers, fake accounts, attacking of advisors.
 Any real business is a tough one though.
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March 20, 2018, 06:29:01 AM
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I've found an interesting article. Alexander Zasypkin, CEO of GOSLOTO - Russian government lottery has joined the team as a Business Development Director.
https://hype.codes/government-lottery-ceo-joined-fire-lotto

 Grin oh, thanks for sharing it with the thread.
Had pleasure reading the very article myself the other day. As A. Zasypkin says:" blockchain technologies will be applied all over the world within a few years". cannot but agree with it. 
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March 20, 2018, 06:55:24 AM
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ANOTHER FAKE ADVISOR ON THE FIRE LOTTO WEBSITE!!!!


                        ANYONE CAN CONTACT HER ON TWITTER https://twitter.com/RonneeA  ANY COMMENTS ON THIS?



I feel wary, and have to ask you to prove you're the real person. You post nothing but negative posts here!that's very scammer-like.
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March 20, 2018, 08:39:53 AM
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"a person who provides advice" is like a literal definition of an advisor, so I dont see, what's the damn problem.
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March 20, 2018, 09:05:38 AM
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With this kinda project, what would even be the point of faking the project, from the point of view of the team? Running an actual blockchain lottery is more profitable then coming up with such a setup and just running away with the money. Especially, long-term.
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March 20, 2018, 09:13:59 AM
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I actually think, blockchain-based littery is neat! Now people can take part in transparent prize draw with no machinations or anything. For example, I'm sure, any physical lottery has plans on who's going to win, so what's the point? And with these guys, I might even buy a ticket.
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March 20, 2018, 09:23:18 AM
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Heard about these guys a lot, both in media and around here. Actually see a lot of positive reactions.
When's the next lottery? I took a look at WP, but there's too much text in threre.
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March 20, 2018, 09:39:48 AM
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How to tell the difference between a scam and a non-scam? Take a look at the team. They got people from Goslotto and Wall Street, and that's already saying something.
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March 20, 2018, 09:51:15 AM
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Happy to see, that the token sale is going well. Soft cap is reached, so the project will go on. And there's a whole month to reach the hard cap.
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March 20, 2018, 10:51:12 AM
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Most of us who discovered the scam found out AFTER we invested.

1.  Ronnee Ades -- Confirmed Fake Advisor (Call her if you want 732-241-2138) Proof : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg32669598#msg32669598

2.  Robert Matuk --- Confirmed Fake Advisor, (Contact him on Linked In) Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg32325629#msg32325629

3.  Elena Bogdanova -- Fake Person, 2 differnet pictures (1 on Cash Poker Pro, another on Firelotto.io) Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg32324946#msg32324946

4.  Fake addresses -- Cyprus, Singapore, Hong Kong. Proof : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg32407289#msg32407289

5.  CLOSED SOURCE Ethereum Contracts. Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg32690518#msg32690518



FAKE SCAMMING LYING RUSSIAN CRIMINALS!!!

Thanks for posting bud. I just added the proofs (Links) to your post.
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March 20, 2018, 06:38:57 PM
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Here's my discussion from Sunday with Ronnee Ades, the other FAKE ADVISOR.

I am sure FL team will call me a scammer and say I faked this one, too right?

https://ibb.co/niYFnx


So fake advisors:   Ronnee Ades, Robert Matuk


Hey FireLotto team, what do you say???
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March 20, 2018, 06:45:29 PM
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In view of the increasing number of scamer attacks on the Firelotto.io project during the ICO period and the incoming threats including physical violence, none of the persons listed on the site responds to the requests of private individuals. Any manipulation and publication on their behalf is a fake. All necessary checks have already been carried out by early investors (more than 5000 people) at the pre-sale stage.
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March 20, 2018, 06:47:58 PM
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We very much hope for the activity of the community on bitolok and the support of the project. If everyone writes something good about the project or simply refutes the negative on us, the Scammers will understand the meaninglessness of their actions and stop interfering with the development of the project. The success of the project, the size of the prize pool and the final price of the token depends on each owner of the token - he is the co-owner of the first fully decentralized international and already running lottery.
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March 20, 2018, 06:50:46 PM
Last edit: March 20, 2018, 07:19:26 PM by Tommy Cash
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The accounts of extortionists and the team of scammers are created only to defame the reputation of the project Fire Lotto

Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flagpole
- kermitas
- hemlockboy


Evidence:
https://image.ibb.co/fp01hn/1.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/hGjDTS/2.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/eCehOS/e7e565b2_e10a_40aa_bcf9_3b3e0c3079a9.jpg
https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1803/6e/f1958c607219.jpg
https://d.radikal.ru/d00/1803/64/3983be6624ea.jpg
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March 20, 2018, 06:54:43 PM
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Heard about these guys a lot, both in media and around here. Actually see a lot of positive reactions.
When's the next lottery? I took a look at WP, but there's too much text in threre.

Within 1-1.5 month we will add instant lottery - rogers wheel. after ico bingo 37 and KENO. These instant games we beleive will bring 50% of all revenue to the platform and share holders.
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