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July 20, 2013, 07:19:29 PM
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Im sorry is this section of the forum only for alternate cryptocurrencies that are open source?
You have a link to "ripple is scam" in your signature.

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July 20, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
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Im sorry is this section of the forum only for alternate cryptocurrencies that are open source?
You have a link to "ripple is scam" in your signature.


And as of now I dont believe that the developers are going to premine an unfair amount to dump for themselves.  If they do ill be more then happy to eat my words.
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July 20, 2013, 07:33:11 PM
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It is really a shame - it seems like a innovative currency and idea.  However, the key to a new currency is a clean launch.  It will be a disaster between the huge pre-mine snd the closed source.  Just a waste of time.

No this is only a key to a new currency in this community. And the idea here is to not market emunie to this community.  To think if this community doesnt accept it will fail is completely stupid and you think way to highly of yourself.
I think this community is probably the easiest one to adopt a new crypto currency, if even we don't adopt it, I really think it will be nearly impossible to get enough others on the ship of emunie.

But I don't know everything, I see alt-coins as a great thing for new ideas. I guess totally different marketing is also an idea, you guys have the luck average Joe doesn't care about open or closed source, sha-256, scrypt, primes, etc.

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July 20, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
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It is really a shame - it seems like a innovative currency and idea.  However, the key to a new currency is a clean launch.  It will be a disaster between the huge pre-mine snd the closed source.  Just a waste of time.

No this is only a key to a new currency in this community. And the idea here is to not market emunie to this community.  To think if this community doesnt accept it will fail is completely stupid and you think way to highly of yourself.
I think this community is probably the easiest one to adopt a new crypto currency, if even we don't adopt it, I really think it will be nearly impossible to get enough others on the ship of emunie.

But I don't know everything, I see alt-coins as a great thing for new ideas. I guess totally different marketing is also an idea, you guys have the luck average Joe doesn't care about open or closed source, sha-256, scrypt, primes, etc.

I guess since im an average Joe and cant read a lick a code it dont matter to me if its open source or not.  Maybe i am the only one that feels this way.  ive spent enough time on the Emunie forum to believe it will not be a scam.  If im wrong in the end Ive lost nothing but a little time and whatever i decide to invest.  Not a big deal.  From what ive seen and read  im willing take a risk on it.
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July 20, 2013, 07:48:35 PM
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It is really a shame - it seems like a innovative currency and idea.  However, the key to a new currency is a clean launch.  It will be a disaster between the huge pre-mine snd the closed source.  Just a waste of time.

No this is only a key to a new currency in this community. And the idea here is to not market emunie to this community.  To think if this community doesnt accept it will fail is completely stupid and you think way to highly of yourself.
I think this community is probably the easiest one to adopt a new crypto currency, if even we don't adopt it, I really think it will be nearly impossible to get enough others on the ship of emunie.

But I don't know everything, I see alt-coins as a great thing for new ideas. I guess totally different marketing is also an idea, you guys have the luck average Joe doesn't care about open or closed source, sha-256, scrypt, primes, etc.

I guess since im an average Joe and cant read a lick a code it dont matter to me if its open source or not.  Maybe i am the only one that feels this way.  ive spent enough time on the Emunie forum to believe it will not be a scam.  If im wrong in the end Ive lost nothing but a little time and whatever i decide to invest.  Not a big deal.  From what ive seen and read  im willing take a risk on it.
All I can say is eMunie = Fail.  I have much more optimism in Primecoin will overtake Litecoin as the 2nd biggest ecurrency.
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no source code available? forget it


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July 21, 2013, 08:08:06 PM
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Cough, cough... for those claiming they know what "decentralised" means, I shall point this out:
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The meaning of decentralization may vary in part because of the different ways it is applied...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization

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July 21, 2013, 10:33:15 PM
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Cough, cough... for those claiming they know what "decentralised" means, I shall point this out:
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The meaning of decentralization may vary in part because of the different ways it is applied...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization
blah blah blah lies and misdirection.

decentralised = no single points of failure, can be replicated indefinitely.

as long as it's closed source, it has a single point of failure.

so, stfu.

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Cough, cough... for those claiming they know what "decentralised" means, I shall point this out:
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The meaning of decentralization may vary in part because of the different ways it is applied...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization
blah blah blah lies and misdirection.

decentralised = no single points of failure, can be replicated indefinitely.

as long as it's closed source, it has a single point of failure.

so, stfu.


Didn't u try to set up some sort of exchange for ripple?  So u against closed source unless u can make some money with it?
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he calls wikipedians liers... no pointing talking sense with this guy..  Smiley

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July 22, 2013, 03:01:41 AM
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Cough, cough... for those claiming they know what "decentralised" means, I shall point this out:
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The meaning of decentralization may vary in part because of the different ways it is applied...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization
blah blah blah lies and misdirection.

decentralised = no single points of failure, can be replicated indefinitely.

as long as it's closed source, it has a single point of failure.

so, stfu.


Please tell me how you refuse to use a bank, credit card, debit card, or Paypal.

If you think you are fooling anyone, think again.

You think you are a part of something great and part of a 'cool' team? You are not. We fix problems with or without some nobodies approval, whether that includes someone of a lower IQ such as yours, or even someone that may have a higher IQ that you will not be able to have a running conversation with.

So, please go do some reading and until then, stfu Wink

 
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when will start that eMoonie?
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No one ever said it's going to be closed source forever, shall I make it bold and clear that it's ONLY CLOSED_SOURCE FOR 12 MONTHS?
Then it is centralised, hence totally pointless, for 12 months.
Come back in 12 months, thanks.


I'm sorry didn't you try your own ripple gateway? Isn't ripple still closed source?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195024.msg2025557#msg2025557


oh wait you failed? awwww so a bitter troll.....no wonder you hate so much.

So now we all know why you're such a self proclaimed expert on single points of failure, you stare at one everyday..... Shocked
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July 22, 2013, 05:10:48 AM
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Cough, cough... for those claiming they know what "decentralised" means, I shall point this out:
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The meaning of decentralization may vary in part because of the different ways it is applied...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization
blah blah blah lies and misdirection.

decentralised = no single points of failure, can be replicated indefinitely.

as long as it's closed source, it has a single point of failure.

so, stfu.


Please tell me how you refuse to use a bank, credit card, debit card, or Paypal.

If you think you are fooling anyone, think again.

You think you are a part of something great and part of a 'cool' team? You are not. We fix problems with or without some nobodies approval, whether that includes someone of a lower IQ such as yours, or even someone that may have a higher IQ that you will not be able to have a running conversation with.

So, please go do some reading and until then, stfu Wink

So eMunie is intending to compete with banks and Paypal? Bitcoin only got nearly as far as it did because it's decentralized. Bitcoin isn't very legally tied with the existing banking systems. If you're going to remove Bitcoin's real advantage while also being in its legal gray area... good luck.
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July 22, 2013, 06:00:24 AM
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ripple for better or worse has shown closed source can have some value.....even though the float is small

I thus think there is room for Emunie with closed source for a not insubstantial number of people.
I also think Emunie will go open source long before an more surely than XRP

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So eMunie is intending to compete with banks and Paypal? Bitcoin only got nearly as far as it did because it's decentralized. Bitcoin isn't very legally tied with the existing banking systems. If you're going to remove Bitcoin's real advantage while also being in its legal gray area... good luck.
Exactly.

But he's a PR troll so he'll keep finding excuses, dodging the real problems, and flooding us with bullshit.

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He never said eMunie was going to compete with banks or PayPal. He is saying those are closed source systems but you use them.


Lohoris i see u dodged the ripple question?
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He never said eMunie was going to compete with banks or PayPal. He is saying those are closed source systems but you use them.

We use them because they're part of the existing financial system. I can pay my bills straight from my bank. It's easy to explain my bank account on my taxes. Everyone accepts Paypal.

Bitcoin (and altcoins) aren't part of the existing financial system. (If I ever make big profits in Bitcoin, I dread figuring out how I'm supposed to list it on my taxes.) But I still bother with Bitcoin because it's a truly decentralized solution that no one is in control of. There's no chance of some company changing their terms of service and closing my account. There's no chance someone is going to suddenly change the minting rate and make mine worthless. There's no chance that my funds will be seized by mistake, or a system error on a bank's part out of my control leaves me unable to access it for a while. There isn't going to be a buggy mandatory Bitcoin update ever.

If you make a new altcoin without the decentralized part, why should anyone bother? There are already many solutions like banks and Paypal that aren't decentralized and are already extremely well integrated with the existing financial frameworks.
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He never said eMunie was going to compete with banks or PayPal. He is saying those are closed source systems but you use them.

We use them because they're part of the existing financial system. I can pay my bills straight from my bank. It's easy to explain my bank account on my taxes. Everyone accepts Paypal.

Bitcoin (and altcoins) aren't part of the existing financial system. (If I ever make big profits in Bitcoin, I dread figuring out how I'm supposed to list it on my taxes.) But I still bother with Bitcoin because it's a truly decentralized solution that no one is in control of. There's no chance of some company changing their terms of service and closing my account. There's no chance someone is going to suddenly change the minting rate and make mine worthless. There's no chance that my funds will be seized by mistake, or a system error on a bank's part out of my control leaves me unable to access it for a while. There isn't going to be a buggy mandatory Bitcoin update ever.

If you make a new altcoin without the decentralized part, why should anyone bother? There are already many solutions like banks and Paypal that aren't decentralized and are already extremely well integrated with the existing financial frameworks.

So im a developer who has a great improvement for bitcoin, i am able to take the source code add in my improvement and then release it for people to start using?
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July 22, 2013, 02:55:02 PM
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Funny how some individuals here try to undermine emunie, because they know it's such an evolved system from Bitcoin, that once it's open source (which means a grown beast that can tackle hunting on its own, not just baby needing nurture) it will blow every single crypto currency currently in existence out of the radar.

I bet while these trolls moan and whine here, the same time they are probably lurking around emunie forum under different usernames... pathetic.

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