Avalon 8 official specs released

[DPoS2]

In november i bought a nice 741 for 900$ they really went crazy with the prices, i dont know who the heck is buying these 821. ROI is AWFUL 3800$ for 11th/s. I dont know what is ppl thinking, bitcoin is barely over 11k difficulty is A LOT harder since november and they wanna charge 3 times more for the same amount of hash power? A 741 at 900$ was 128$ per 1 TH/S a 820 at 3800$ is 345 per 1TH/s all while 1 th/s pays less now than in november

Bitmain changed their prices but it wasnt so crazy from 1400 to 2300

consider yourself lucky - it wasn't like everyone that wanted them in Nov could get them and many people got back into mining only when the weather got so cold that they dusted off their old ones for heat... then it was a mad dash for the rest of the stock

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[fanatic26]

821 price predicition for distributors

For 821  you can consider that the price could be anywhere between 3000 and 4000  per machine.

Avalon  841 release:

The 841  should start shipping in the March April time frame. Performance should range around 13TH and 12 Watts.

Not sure where you got your data but I wouldnt be sharing that information since it is not true.

[TracerX]

821 price predicition for distributors

For 821  you can consider that the price could be anywhere between 3000 and 4000  per machine.

Avalon  841 release:

The 841  should start shipping in the March April time frame. Performance should range around 13TH and 12 Watts.

Not sure where you got your data but I wouldnt be sharing that information since it is not true.

He received it from the manufacturer, as did I.  Why do you feel it's not true?

[HagssFIN]

@fanatic26

I can confirm that it is a legit message from Steven.

It's a typo. It should say that the A841 performance should range around 13TH and 1.2 kW.

[DPoS2]

@fanatic26

I can confirm that it is a legit message from Steven.

It's a typo. It should say that the A841 performance should range around 13TH and 1.2 kW.

No price for the 841s?  Seems 821's will still be shipping in March so there are some considerations

[fanatic26]

He received it from the manufacturer, as did I.  Why do you feel it's not true?

Because I didnt pay that much *shrugs*

[QuintLeo]

Avalon  841 release:

The 841  should start shipping in the March April time frame. Performance should range around 13TH and 12 Watts.

 Nice typo (on Avalon's part).

 8-O

[lossol]

At over $3000 per unit for the 821s with only 11TH, how does anyone breakeven on this investment unless they have free power? The calculators say it would take over 1 year for me to break even assuming difficulty never rises from current levels. So why is everyone snatching up these 821s at triple the price of the 741s? Are they all hoping BTC is going to jump to the moon again like last year?

[QuintLeo]

(1) they're not shipping yet
(2) there is no official price on them yet.
(3) NOBODY is "snatching up these 821s" because they're NOT AVAILABLE YET.


 Their *SPECULATED* price is triple the 741 based on the price spike Bitcoin had a couple weeks back and the resulting Bitmain S9 pricing on THEIR last batch.

 If Bitcoin stays around it's current price, the 821 likely will end up selling close to $2000.

 They can get away with higher pricing than the S9 even when the performance is lower due to the far lower FAILURE rate they have compared to the S9.

[rifleman74]

(1) they're not shipping yet
(2) there is no official price on them yet.
(3) NOBODY is "snatching up these 821s" because they're NOT AVAILABLE YET.


 Their *SPECULATED* price is triple the 741 based on the price spike Bitcoin had a couple weeks back and the resulting Bitmain S9 pricing on THEIR last batch.

 If Bitcoin stays around it's current price, the 821 likely will end up selling close to $2000.

 They can get away with higher pricing than the S9 even when the performance is lower due to the far lower FAILURE rate they have compared to the S9.

What he said. 

[alh]

Latest posted price is $2899 for a single A821 on the Blokforge website. Is somebody expecting that to actually come down within a week? This is down from the earlier $3600 price, but I don't see anything to suggest $2000 at all.

[Steamtyme]

(1) they're not shipping yet
(2) there is no official price on them yet.
(3) NOBODY is "snatching up these 821s" because they're NOT AVAILABLE YET.


 Their *SPECULATED* price is triple the 741 based on the price spike Bitcoin had a couple weeks back and the resulting Bitmain S9 pricing on THEIR last batch.

 If Bitcoin stays around it's current price, the 821 likely will end up selling close to $2000.

 They can get away with higher pricing than the S9 even when the performance is lower due to the far lower FAILURE rate they have compared to the S9.

They haven't shipped out yet from Canaan, but they are available. I think they are on schedule for the pre-order shipping from Blokforge of February 7th; based on the last mass email from Canaan. These units were priced at a "premium" due to the fact that I think there were only 200 available for the early ship date, half with crypto universe and the other half with Blokforge.

The price they originally charged I'm sure had everything to do with capitalizing on the surge in price of BTC, I'm not shocked Canaan went that route, but it was a far cry from the estimated 200$/TH they were estimating back in November.

If the current price of BTC stays relatively the same I do think that Canaan will reduce the price point to be closer to their original estimates, but the price will be subject to distributor mark ups.

As for the snatching up, people did slow their roll a little at least that's what I saw with stock actually sitting out a while on the Blokforge site. Probably due to the high price tag and the drop in BTC value. They are still selling out though, and the nice thing right now is Blokforge posts in their thread for Forum members when they have extra available from orders that fall through.

[Thetaj]

ROI is appalling if Bitcoin goes into a 6month - 1 year bear market for sure. But I guess I'm willing to brave that storm.........unless I get hit by a literal storm, then I'm fucked lol

[leowonderful]

ROI is appalling if Bitcoin goes into a 6month - 1 year bear market for sure. But I guess I'm willing to brave that storm.........unless I get hit by a literal storm, then I'm fucked lol

ROI used to be a long process before Bitcoin started going up in price, people have been spoiled by fast returns and profits recently with not only alts but also BTC. So as long as you keep mining on you'll be fine.

[bl1nd]

(1) they're not shipping yet
(2) there is no official price on them yet.
(3) NOBODY is "snatching up these 821s" because they're NOT AVAILABLE YET.


 Their *SPECULATED* price is triple the 741 based on the price spike Bitcoin had a couple weeks back and the resulting Bitmain S9 pricing on THEIR last batch.

 If Bitcoin stays around it's current price, the 821 likely will end up selling close to $2000.

 They can get away with higher pricing than the S9 even when the performance is lower due to the far lower FAILURE rate they have compared to the S9.

Actually there is a price of 2899$ for march batch. Im in one of the minerwarez 741 batches from december they turned our order into a 821 order

And they are shipping in february a batch for 3500$

ROI is appalling if Bitcoin goes into a 6month - 1 year bear market for sure. But I guess I'm willing to brave that storm.........unless I get hit by a literal storm, then I'm fucked lol

ROI used to be a long process before Bitcoin started going up in price, people have been spoiled by fast returns and profits recently with not only alts but also BTC. So as long as you keep mining on you'll be fine.

Totally agree, ROI was in 10 12 months before and even that i great. What business pays itself in 1 year? NONE

[Thetaj]

True that my brothers, maybe I got spoiled a bit......I forgot the S7 days lol, but the landscape drastically changed, I fear we might be in an ASIC arms race 2.0. thats the onlything I worry about

[shakafaka]

factory pricing

 The price of A821 is $2200 USD per unit for March.
 The price of PSU(1800W 93%) is $110 USD per unit.
 
The current spot price of A821 is $3500.00 USD per unit. 

I think with $2000 USD price tag they would gather more attention. But who cares , they are going to sell off anyway.

Market needs 3 competitors, and we can barely see 2 now.

[Steamtyme]

factory pricing

 The price of A821 is $2200 USD per unit for March.
 The price of PSU(1800W 93%) is $110 USD per unit.
 
The current spot price of A821 is $3500.00 USD per unit. 

I think with $2000 USD price tag they would gather more attention. But who cares , they are going to sell off anyway.

Market needs 3 competitors, and we can barely see 2 now.

There are currently 4 companies delivering miners. All that happened is prices rose with BTC pricing and the fact that they can't keep them in stock.

With Avalon the price had always been a little higher; call it the quality/longevity premium.

[latoxine34]

3800€ a8 alone , pre order at europe reseller......So 18000€ on ebay ? 

[Foofighter]

3800€ a8 alone , pre order at europe reseller......So 18000€ on ebay ? 

not really, it's 2880 EUR for miner alone.