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April 19, 2013, 04:49:53 PM
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Please add email notification when a worker goes down. Otherwise love the pool.

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April 20, 2013, 04:28:37 AM
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pool seems down now and every time i've checked today

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April 20, 2013, 10:13:46 AM
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pool seems down now and every time i've checked today

Pool is running. Website is going down from time to time. I'm working on it.

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April 20, 2013, 07:30:52 PM
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Is anyone else having this problem with PPcoin, I am using guiminer and it will connect and get shares for about 10 to 15 minutes, but then will go to connection problem, only does this for PPcoin, and I have tried ports 8322 and 9322.  Why would it mine fine for a bit, and then all of a sudden have a problem?  And it isnt a localized event, the same thing happened to my friend who tried to mine PPcoin at Coinotron.

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April 20, 2013, 09:49:52 PM
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when is stratum@PPcoin?
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April 21, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
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pool seems down now and every time i've checked today

Pool is running. Website is going down from time to time. I'm working on it.

sorry i did mean the website. I wasn't currently mining there

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April 22, 2013, 05:56:02 AM
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I've been pointing my CPU at your LTC pool for a while now, using mining_proxy and minerd. It works slow but gets shares.

I finally installed a Radeon 6570, and use cgminer. When I point it at ANY of your pools, using default settings from your Help section, I get very few shares. I have tried it on BTC and TRC, as well as on LTC (using scrypt, of course). In other BTC pools I have tried I get shares (about 80-85 Mh/s) but in your pools I get very few, if any. (I was connected to TRC pool for ten minutes leading up to the time of this point, and got two shares only.) Has your pool been rejecting connections, or should I be doing something special?

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April 22, 2013, 03:35:35 PM
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I've been pointing my CPU at your LTC pool for a while now, using mining_proxy and minerd. It works slow but gets shares.

I finally installed a Radeon 6570, and use cgminer. When I point it at ANY of your pools, using default settings from your Help section, I get very few shares. I have tried it on BTC and TRC, as well as on LTC (using scrypt, of course). In other BTC pools I have tried I get shares (about 80-85 Mh/s) but in your pools I get very few, if any. (I was connected to TRC pool for ten minutes leading up to the time of this point, and got two shares only.) Has your pool been rejecting connections, or should I be doing something special?

Coinotron pools send shares of higher difficulty than 1. So you submit shares less frequently but they are more valuable.

Here you can find actual values: https://www.coinotron.com/coinotron/AccountServlet?action=home ( BTC stratum uses share difficulty 4)
 

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April 22, 2013, 05:03:50 PM
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Thank you for the valuable explanation. I let it run all night and checked the actual shares earned in the morning, and I am mining the expected number of coins.

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April 26, 2013, 04:31:33 AM
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This pool is some type of scam. Have been mining on this site for 26 days w/ 1.5gh. Over the past 7 days my total reward has only changed from .22btc to .24btc.. Missing over a full BTC from this month. My miners are not having problems. Shares are accepted. pool sucks

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April 26, 2013, 07:28:41 AM
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This pool is some type of scam. Have been mining on this site for 26 days w/ 1.5gh. Over the past 7 days my total reward has only changed from .22btc to .24btc.. Missing over a full BTC from this month. My miners are not having problems. Shares are accepted. pool sucks

1. Pool uses DGM method, not PPS
2. In last 7 days pool didn't find a block.
3. Your total reward includes only estimation of current round reward.
4. DGM is a hybrid between PPLNS and the geometric method. That geometric part is responsible for behavior you are observing. It is hard to explain more accurately without going into technical details. DGM algorithm is described here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39497.0
5. DGM will add those "missing" coins to your balance in next few rounds.

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April 26, 2013, 06:57:40 PM
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Yeah, the problem is coinotron is essentially a LTC pool now.

LTC miners outnumber BTC miners by around 200-1, so finding blocks is gonna be very tough, even with youpieie pulling 30k mh/s
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April 27, 2013, 01:59:41 PM
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I can't change any payment thresholds, it says "Change data successful" but nothing changes.

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April 27, 2013, 03:16:01 PM
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Ye something is up with it, threshold can't be changed and automatic payment not working it seems.
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April 27, 2013, 04:28:44 PM
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getting an incredible amount of stales mining litecoin here...never have before...sup?  think your server needs a reboot.

and why is the difficulty set so high?  26.5 mil?   diff for litecoin is 400 something.  someone please explain.
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April 27, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
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uh, pool down? 
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April 28, 2013, 12:55:46 AM
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I personally can't connect to LTC pool at the mo, not sure why or if others are having the same problem  Huh
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April 28, 2013, 11:22:39 AM
Last edit: April 28, 2013, 11:33:19 AM by rm187
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This pool is some type of scam. Have been mining on this site for 26 days w/ 1.5gh. Over the past 7 days my total reward has only changed from .22btc to .24btc.. Missing over a full BTC from this month. My miners are not having problems. Shares are accepted. pool sucks

1. Pool uses DGM method, not PPS
2. In last 7 days pool didn't find a block.
3. Your total reward includes only estimation of current round reward.
4. DGM is a hybrid between PPLNS and the geometric method. That geometric part is responsible for behavior you are observing. It is hard to explain more accurately without going into technical details. DGM algorithm is described here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39497.0
5. DGM will add those "missing" coins to your balance in next few rounds.

I know how DGM works(ish). and your delusional to think I am going to get paid 3 BTC from the blocks that were solved 6 weeks ago. Or makeup that loss over the next blocks.

From the time of last post, I left 500mh on coinotron, and put 500mh on a different DGM pool.
Coinotron still the exact same balance as two days ago. Already up to .08 btc on the other pool. Coinotron; not a single number has changed in two days.

And your going to tell me my missing 3+btc is your DGM? hmmm. I'll get flamed; but its clearly the pool op skimming off the top. Maybe I am wrong, but this pool is trash ether way.

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April 30, 2013, 04:08:26 AM
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I know how DGM works(ish). and your delusional to think I am going to get paid 3 BTC from the blocks that were solved 6 weeks ago. Or makeup that loss over the next blocks.

From the time of last post, I left 500mh on coinotron, and put 500mh on a different DGM pool.
Coinotron still the exact same balance as two days ago. Already up to .08 btc on the other pool. Coinotron; not a single number has changed in two days.

And your going to tell me my missing 3+btc is your DGM? hmmm. I'll get flamed; but its clearly the pool op skimming off the top. Maybe I am wrong, but this pool is trash ether way.

Coinotron's statistics page shows the last block found was on 4-17. Once a block is eventually found, miners will get paid based on their DGM scores. No, you don't get your 3 "missing" BTC because it isn't missing. It's a long round, and everyone shares the bad luck. Just like in short rounds, you'd all share the additional profit (and make more than PPS would have paid for the short round). Over a long period of time, the good luck equals the bad luck (in a mathematical sense) and it evens out. Of course, any stretch of good or bad luck could last for years, being random and all.
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May 03, 2013, 07:02:35 AM
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Is the withdrawal limit (without fee) 10 for PPC ? The Reward System page says so but I am not sure if it is up-to-date, because it also says the limit for LTC is 1 (in contradiction with the red statements in My Account page).




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