Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!

[QuintLeo]

If you are anti-ASIC do not read...

Am I dreaming or Bitmain added 1000 bucks to E3 miner?  

Antminer E3, Batch 2
Shipping: 16-31 July.
1800 USD

Meanwhile..... L3+ at $838 is looking yummy ...  

You are not dreaming - they kicked Batch 2 up to $1800, apparently Batch 1 sold out fast enough they think they can find enough "suckers" to pay the higher price.

I wish Innosilicon would drop the MOQ 5 requirement, or find a distributor that actually DOES something - those A4s for under $1200 are looking yummy.....

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[citronick]

If you are anti-ASIC do not read...

Am I dreaming or Bitmain added 1000 bucks to E3 miner?  

Antminer E3, Batch 2
Shipping: 16-31 July.
1800 USD

Meanwhile..... L3+ at $838 is looking yummy ...  

You are not dreaming - they kicked Batch 2 up to $1800, apparently Batch 1 sold out fast enough they think they can find enough "suckers" to pay the higher price.

I wish Innosilicon would drop the MOQ 5 requirement, or find a distributor that actually DOES something - those A4s for under $1200 are looking yummy.....

Vitalik did say that he is not in favor of hardforking to address the ASICs attack because IMHO, in reality, scalability is a big issue for the ETH network, and needs all the hash they can get before POS. Well played Bitmain ...

[KaydenC]

Vitalik did say that he is not in favor of hardforking to address the ASICs attack because IMHO, in reality, scalability is a big issue for the ETH network, and needs all the hash they can get before POS. Well played Bitmain ...

Amount of hash is not related to scalability though. It just makes it easier/more difficult to perform a 51% attack. All transactions are still computed by the ETH node and transactions are limited because nodes (usually everyday PCs) can only compute so many transactions per second. The solution is sharing (every node only computes a fraction of all transactions).


Right now I'm struggling with a rig that only shows 4 cards instead of 7. Can't be dead risers as it's the riserless onda board. Out of 20 restarts perhaps 1 time all 7 cards get detected, but in 2 - 3 days it drops to 4 cards again. Annoying

[citronick]

Vitalik did say that he is not in favor of hardforking to address the ASICs attack because IMHO, in reality, scalability is a big issue for the ETH network, and needs all the hash they can get before POS. Well played Bitmain ...

Amount of hash is not related to scalability though. It just makes it easier/more difficult to perform a 51% attack. All transactions are still computed by the ETH node and transactions are limited because nodes (usually everyday PCs) can only compute so many transactions per second. The solution is sharing (every node only computes a fraction of all transactions).


Right now I'm struggling with a rig that only shows 4 cards instead of 7. Can't be dead risers as it's the riserless onda board. Out of 20 restarts perhaps 1 time all 7 cards get detected, but in 2 - 3 days it drops to 4 cards again. Annoying

I bet its power related.... I had 6xslot ONDA that was acting like that but after migrating the same cards on a 8xslot ONDA with a server PSU - had no issues (SMOS).

On that scalability issue, yeah agree... in a way ASICs will quicken a 51% attack / centralized situation. However, in this interim POW to POS stage, ETH network depends heavily on the miners more than ever, hence the POW extension with block-halving decision before full POS. In a recent user poll, a big chunk of ETH miners favors fork to fight ASICs.

I bet there are already several hundreds if not thousands of E3s and F3s already online months ago....

[philipma1957]

Vitalik did say that he is not in favor of hardforking to address the ASICs attack because IMHO, in reality, scalability is a big issue for the ETH network, and needs all the hash they can get before POS. Well played Bitmain ...

Amount of hash is not related to scalability though. It just makes it easier/more difficult to perform a 51% attack. All transactions are still computed by the ETH node and transactions are limited because nodes (usually everyday PCs) can only compute so many transactions per second. The solution is sharing (every node only computes a fraction of all transactions).


Right now I'm struggling with a rig that only shows 4 cards instead of 7. Can't be dead risers as it's the riserless onda board. Out of 20 restarts perhaps 1 time all 7 cards get detected, but in 2 - 3 days it drops to 4 cards again. Annoying

I bet its power related.... I had 6xslot ONDA that was acting like that but after migrating the same cards on a 8xslot ONDA with a server PSU - had no issues (SMOS).

On that scalability issue, yeah agree... in a way ASICs will quicken a 51% attack / centralized situation. However, in this interim POW to POS stage, ETH network depends heavily on the miners more than ever, hence the POW extension with block-halving decision before full POS. In a recent user poll, a big chunk of ETH miners favors fork to fight ASICs.

I bet there are already several hundreds if not thousands of E3s and F3s already online months ago....

Eth developer is a moron. my opinion for what it is worth.

first off pos can not work.

never could or will work.

basically pos is a bank  and banks pay  1% but are safe.

so unless pos pays 15%  it won't work since it is not safe at all and it can't pay 15%  as it won't generate enough revenue.

Eth  can fork and have 3 future forks  due to asic interference put off pos for 2 years.


It would be accepted by the miners with gpus.
the old fork would have an asic base.  like monero  xmr + xmo

I feel sorry for al those hooked into eth as the path  the developer is following = doom

btw same for zec.  they think the coin being Anonymous  has value  . The  truth is  once you want fiat it is no longer anonymous.  They are also making the coin to be a target for  law enforcement  since  its only value is it is anonymous.  They have turned to asics  in some statements  they made.

So we will soon  see  an asic zec miner.

[philipma1957]

What is the Nvidia Cryptonight7 miner of choice here?

@phil & @citronick



EDIT:  I'm okay on the windows side, but on SMOS side having trouble with the nicehash + Cryptonight7 combo

I have tried all the various Cryptonight7 miners in SMOS... and its a bit tricky, however below worked best for me.

I am using the following for Nicehash + Cryptonight7, stable and without any issues for both NVIDIA and AMD

xmrig-amd-v2.5.2   
-o stratum+tcp://cryptonightv7.usa.nicehash.com:3363 -u <btc-address>.$rigName -p x --donate-level=1 --print-time=5

xmrig-nvidia-v2.5.2   
-o stratum+tcp://cryptonightv7.usa.nicehash.com:3363 -u <btc-address>.$rigName -p x --donate-level=1 --print-time=5

-o stratum+tcp://cryptonightv7.usa.nicehash.com:3363 -u 3QPFEdX8rtXHoVZHct5eUbp7AK1t1vRMfL.1 -p x --donate-level=1 --print-time=5


what about clocks? 

tdp at 200 watts

core at + 50
ram at + 200

fans at 75%

[ATCkit2]

Loving this XMR profitability. Hope it lasts for a couple weeks.

I think that unfortunately hashrate will redistribute much faster than that. Supply is very elastic.

Is anyone mining xmr with nvidia? I'm fully nvidia, on rvn at the moment, and wondering if it's worth switching…

get on it while its still profitable...

I have about 130khs pointed to NH and last night I saw a payment of 0.0436 BTC for a few hours.

There are a lot of crazy rich rentors out there...

Profitability is very quickly disappearing back to the ETH levels.

Right now only 50% more profitable with a regular RX 470.

Most likely over night it will even out and this week it will probably make ETH most profitable.

what clocks are you using for 470s?

[citronick]

What is the Nvidia Cryptonight7 miner of choice here?

@phil & @citronick



EDIT:  I'm okay on the windows side, but on SMOS side having trouble with the nicehash + Cryptonight7 combo

I have tried all the various Cryptonight7 miners in SMOS... and its a bit tricky, however below worked best for me.

I am using the following for Nicehash + Cryptonight7, stable and without any issues for both NVIDIA and AMD

xmrig-amd-v2.5.2   
-o stratum+tcp://cryptonightv7.usa.nicehash.com:3363 -u <btc-address>.$rigName -p x --donate-level=1 --print-time=5

xmrig-nvidia-v2.5.2   
-o stratum+tcp://cryptonightv7.usa.nicehash.com:3363 -u <btc-address>.$rigName -p x --donate-level=1 --print-time=5

-o stratum+tcp://cryptonightv7.usa.nicehash.com:3363 -u 3QPFEdX8rtXHoVZHct5eUbp7AK1t1vRMfL.1 -p x --donate-level=1 --print-time=5


what about clocks? 

tdp at 200 watts

core at + 50
ram at + 200

fans at 75%

Unlike ETH and ZEC, I think Cryptonite doesnt need any aggressive OC memory settings, only raw core power.

[JaredKaragen]

Holy crap the XMR network hashrate: https://xmr.nanopool.org/stats


wth is going on.....

[rs1x]

Vitalik did say that he is not in favor of hardforking to address the ASICs attack because IMHO, in reality, scalability is a big issue for the ETH network, and needs all the hash they can get before POS. Well played Bitmain ...

Amount of hash is not related to scalability though. It just makes it easier/more difficult to perform a 51% attack. All transactions are still computed by the ETH node and transactions are limited because nodes (usually everyday PCs) can only compute so many transactions per second. The solution is sharing (every node only computes a fraction of all transactions).


Right now I'm struggling with a rig that only shows 4 cards instead of 7. Can't be dead risers as it's the riserless onda board. Out of 20 restarts perhaps 1 time all 7 cards get detected, but in 2 - 3 days it drops to 4 cards again. Annoying

I bet its power related.... I had 6xslot ONDA that was acting like that but after migrating the same cards on a 8xslot ONDA with a server PSU - had no issues (SMOS).

On that scalability issue, yeah agree... in a way ASICs will quicken a 51% attack / centralized situation. However, in this interim POW to POS stage, ETH network depends heavily on the miners more than ever, hence the POW extension with block-halving decision before full POS. In a recent user poll, a big chunk of ETH miners favors fork to fight ASICs.

I bet there are already several hundreds if not thousands of E3s and F3s already online months ago....

Eth developer is a moron. my opinion for what it is worth.

first off pos can not work.

never could or will work.

basically pos is a bank  and banks pay  1% but are safe.

so unless pos pays 15%  it won't work since it is not safe at all and it can't pay 15%  as it won't generate enough revenue.

Eth  can fork and have 3 future forks  due to asic interference put off pos for 2 years.


It would be accepted by the miners with gpus.
the old fork would have an asic base.  like monero  xmr + xmo

I feel sorry for al those hooked into eth as the path  the developer is following = doom

btw same for zec.  they think the coin being Anonymous  has value  . The  truth is  once you want fiat it is no longer anonymous.  They are also making the coin to be a target for  law enforcement  since  its only value is it is anonymous.  They have turned to asics  in some statements  they made.

So we will soon  see  an asic zec miner.

phil - awhile ago you were targeting ZEC to be $1k a coin.  Does that still look realistic for ZEC? Not sure your view on it re: your comment above.

[rs1x]

Holy crap the XMR network hashrate: https://xmr.nanopool.org/stats


wth is going on.....

ASIC's update their firmware?

/SARCASTIC 

[philipma1957]

Vitalik did say that he is not in favor of hardforking to address the ASICs attack because IMHO, in reality, scalability is a big issue for the ETH network, and needs all the hash they can get before POS. Well played Bitmain ...

Amount of hash is not related to scalability though. It just makes it easier/more difficult to perform a 51% attack. All transactions are still computed by the ETH node and transactions are limited because nodes (usually everyday PCs) can only compute so many transactions per second. The solution is sharing (every node only computes a fraction of all transactions).


Right now I'm struggling with a rig that only shows 4 cards instead of 7. Can't be dead risers as it's the riserless onda board. Out of 20 restarts perhaps 1 time all 7 cards get detected, but in 2 - 3 days it drops to 4 cards again. Annoying

I bet its power related.... I had 6xslot ONDA that was acting like that but after migrating the same cards on a 8xslot ONDA with a server PSU - had no issues (SMOS).

On that scalability issue, yeah agree... in a way ASICs will quicken a 51% attack / centralized situation. However, in this interim POW to POS stage, ETH network depends heavily on the miners more than ever, hence the POW extension with block-halving decision before full POS. In a recent user poll, a big chunk of ETH miners favors fork to fight ASICs.

I bet there are already several hundreds if not thousands of E3s and F3s already online months ago....

Eth developer is a moron. my opinion for what it is worth.

first off pos can not work.

never could or will work.

basically pos is a bank  and banks pay  1% but are safe.

so unless pos pays 15%  it won't work since it is not safe at all and it can't pay 15%  as it won't generate enough revenue.

Eth  can fork and have 3 future forks  due to asic interference put off pos for 2 years.


It would be accepted by the miners with gpus.
the old fork would have an asic base.  like monero  xmr + xmo

I feel sorry for al those hooked into eth as the path  the developer is following = doom

btw same for zec.  they think the coin being Anonymous  has value  . The  truth is  once you want fiat it is no longer anonymous.  They are also making the coin to be a target for  law enforcement  since  its only value is it is anonymous.  They have turned to asics  in some statements  they made.

So we will soon  see  an asic zec miner.

phil - awhile ago you were targeting ZEC to be $1k a coin.  Does that still look realistic for ZEC? Not sure your view on it re: your comment above.

zec is no longer worthwhile .

I am not anti asic but all asic simply means lots of empty highways.

if zec becomes asic and thinks its ability to be a hidden coin is all that it needs they are mistaken.

My point is pretty simple.

the world has 8 billion people
about 1 billion can gpu mine
if you wipe out gpu mining you lose a potential 1 billion users.
nice highways are Wonderfull but cars trucks and buses are needed.

[P00P135]

https://twitter.com/baikalminer/status/983278127504769026

Got a nice chuckle out of this. 

[fr4nkthetank]

Is that a real twitter account for baikal, if not thats hilarious, if it is thats hilarious too.  Serious note though :  Difficulty is creeping up a lot actually.  In any case ETH mining cant really get better unless the price explodes and I dont see that happening soon.

[rs1x]

Vitalik did say that he is not in favor of hardforking to address the ASICs attack because IMHO, in reality, scalability is a big issue for the ETH network, and needs all the hash they can get before POS. Well played Bitmain ...

Amount of hash is not related to scalability though. It just makes it easier/more difficult to perform a 51% attack. All transactions are still computed by the ETH node and transactions are limited because nodes (usually everyday PCs) can only compute so many transactions per second. The solution is sharing (every node only computes a fraction of all transactions).


Right now I'm struggling with a rig that only shows 4 cards instead of 7. Can't be dead risers as it's the riserless onda board. Out of 20 restarts perhaps 1 time all 7 cards get detected, but in 2 - 3 days it drops to 4 cards again. Annoying

I bet its power related.... I had 6xslot ONDA that was acting like that but after migrating the same cards on a 8xslot ONDA with a server PSU - had no issues (SMOS).

On that scalability issue, yeah agree... in a way ASICs will quicken a 51% attack / centralized situation. However, in this interim POW to POS stage, ETH network depends heavily on the miners more than ever, hence the POW extension with block-halving decision before full POS. In a recent user poll, a big chunk of ETH miners favors fork to fight ASICs.

I bet there are already several hundreds if not thousands of E3s and F3s already online months ago....

Eth developer is a moron. my opinion for what it is worth.

first off pos can not work.

never could or will work.

basically pos is a bank  and banks pay  1% but are safe.

so unless pos pays 15%  it won't work since it is not safe at all and it can't pay 15%  as it won't generate enough revenue.

Eth  can fork and have 3 future forks  due to asic interference put off pos for 2 years.


It would be accepted by the miners with gpus.
the old fork would have an asic base.  like monero  xmr + xmo

I feel sorry for al those hooked into eth as the path  the developer is following = doom

btw same for zec.  they think the coin being Anonymous  has value  . The  truth is  once you want fiat it is no longer anonymous.  They are also making the coin to be a target for  law enforcement  since  its only value is it is anonymous.  They have turned to asics  in some statements  they made.

So we will soon  see  an asic zec miner.

phil - awhile ago you were targeting ZEC to be $1k a coin.  Does that still look realistic for ZEC? Not sure your view on it re: your comment above.

zec is no longer worthwhile .

I am not anti asic but all asic simply means lots of empty highways.

if zec becomes asic and thinks its ability to be a hidden coin is all that it needs they are mistaken.

My point is pretty simple.

the world has 8 billion people
about 1 billion can gpu mine
if you wipe out gpu mining you lose a potential 1 billion users.
nice highways are Wonderfull but cars trucks and buses are needed.

Always appreciate the input.

[Marvell2]

Loving this XMR profitability. Hope it lasts for a couple weeks.

I think that unfortunately hashrate will redistribute much faster than that. Supply is very elastic.

im literally getting almost 4x+ what I was a few days ago....   So, until people stop turning more machines onto XMR, it will lower a bit... but, even still... I can almost generate 1 XMR a month now;  compared to being able to generate almost .01-.05/mo.

Loving this XMR profitability. Hope it lasts for a couple weeks.

I think that unfortunately hashrate will redistribute much faster than that. Supply is very elastic.

Is anyone mining xmr with nvidia? I'm fully nvidia, on rvn at the moment, and wondering if it's worth switching…

see my post a few above this one;  it has a link for phil to an XMR binary that has no devfee.

For the next few weeks, Ill probably be only mining 100% XMR now, and not RVN + zpool coins as I have been.

why would you waste your hash? nvidia cards are great at raven , they are better at eth than they are at xmr
a 1070 does 600 to 650 max on xmr and will do 9k on raven

makes no sense bro

[citronick]

Loving this XMR profitability. Hope it lasts for a couple weeks.

I think that unfortunately hashrate will redistribute much faster than that. Supply is very elastic.

im literally getting almost 4x+ what I was a few days ago....   So, until people stop turning more machines onto XMR, it will lower a bit... but, even still... I can almost generate 1 XMR a month now;  compared to being able to generate almost .01-.05/mo.

Loving this XMR profitability. Hope it lasts for a couple weeks.

I think that unfortunately hashrate will redistribute much faster than that. Supply is very elastic.

Is anyone mining xmr with nvidia? I'm fully nvidia, on rvn at the moment, and wondering if it's worth switching…

see my post a few above this one;  it has a link for phil to an XMR binary that has no devfee.

For the next few weeks, Ill probably be only mining 100% XMR now, and not RVN + zpool coins as I have been.

why would you waste your hash? nvidia cards are great at raven , they are better at eth than they are at xmr
a 1070 does 600 to 650 max on xmr and will do 9k on raven

makes no sense bro

Actually.... a cheap RX570 (with less power) can hash the same vs the best 1080ti when mining Cryptonights.

My NIVIDIA farm is now back at ZEN - well it was fun while it lasted.

The AMD farm however are still working hard on Cryptonite7.

[Nancimy]

Actually.... a cheap RX570 (with less power) can hash the same vs the best 1080ti when mining Cryptonights.

My NIVIDIA farm is now back at ZEN - well it was fun while it lasted.

The AMD farm however are still working hard on Cryptonite7.

My AMD miners (7970+R9 390) are still working on Monero. It is still marginally more profitable to mine Monero than on ZEC.

[sNaKeyz0r91]

@citronick - what pool you're mining zen on?
Right now I'm poiting towards ZHash.pro (https://zen.zhash.pro/), which went well in the first day, but yesterday I got only 0.2 Zen from 6 x 1080ti which is really low imho. Whattomine says about 0.38 or 0.35 zen / day which I got three and two days ago.
Could you suggest a better pool? Or yesterday was a bad day for you too?

Thanks

LE: What do you think about XVG? Looks like getting much profit than any other coin currently. I'm thinking pointing towards zpool and be paid directly in BTC.

[citronick]

@citronick - what pool you're mining zen on?
Right now I'm poiting towards ZHash.pro (https://zen.zhash.pro/), which went well in the first day, but yesterday I got only 0.2 Zen from 6 x 1080ti which is really low imho. Whattomine says about 0.38 or 0.35 zen / day which I got three and two days ago.
Could you suggest a better pool? Or yesterday was a bad day for you too?

Thanks

LE: What do you think about XVG? Looks like getting much profit than any other coin currently. I'm thinking pointing towards zpool and be paid directly in BTC.

I mine ZEN at SUPRNOVA. Mined RVN and PIGN also at SUPRNOVA.

SUPRNOVA has more than 8000 workers at their ZEN pool.... it has 16M sols/s out of the total network 68M sols/s. So its quite a massive pool. I have about 67k sols/s pointed there... just over 10 coins per day.

XVG is climbing the ranks, I bought 0.5 BTC worth during the dips more than a week ago, will be selling my bag soon and buy more NEOs below 50 bucks. Too hard mining XVG, just too many miners/algos/DDOS and those Baikal X10 ASICs can do Lyra2 Myriad-Groestl now, so I just bought it outright at Binance.