Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!

[philipma1957]

Phil - have you tried S9s at Slush lately?

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/slush-pool-now-compatible-asicboost-miners/

Uhh.. are you trolling? That is horrible..

no looks like all  gear will go to asicboost see below:

Short update here:-

1. DragonMint's have version-rolling AsicBoost support (reference).
2. Shipping will begin around March 15 - 22, but there's a lot to ship so please be patient.
3. Shipped version number will be T1, not 16T due to some mixup with Russian import documents that cannot be changed in time.
4. This picture is legit and the final version that will ship https://twitter.com/MyRig_com/status/971205544533835776
5. Phillip will get a demo machine once the shipping starts. But the reason for the secrecy was AsicBoost capability could be revealed before the patent holder opened the patent. This is unfortunate, we would have preferred more openness, but it is what it is, patents suck, but in this case, the patent can help protect the Bitcoin ecosystem. Now we're so close to shipping, we'll just give a demo machine to phillip once we ship.

Some references:-

https://blockchaindpl.org/
https://www.emergingtechlaw.org/analysis/creating-the-blockchain-defensive-patent-license420182
https://www.asicboost.com/single-post/2018/03/01/opening-asicboost-for-defensive-use/
https://blog.bitmex.com/defensive-patent-licence/
https://blog.bitmex.com/graphical-illustration-of-a-bitcoin-block/
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/there-bitcoin-patent-war-going-initiative-could-end-it/
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/slush-pool-now-compatible-asicboost-miners/
http://stratumprotocol.org/

The following pools are already version-rolling compatible: slushpool.com, ckpool.org, bitcoin-india.org
The following software is patched or has pull requests open or about to being worked on: btcpool, ckpool, cgminer

Thanks  a very nice thing to read this morning.

this is the 16 gpu thread with 3 videos and photos
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3015786.msg31009451#msg31009451

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[rs1x]

Phil - Can you point me in the direction to purchase a DragonMint?

[philipma1957]

Phil - Can you point me in the direction to purchase a DragonMint?

Well  lets try this link

https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-16t-miner/

if not

https://myrig.com/


https://myrig.com/product/dragonmint-16-th-s/


after these two i don't know where else .

[rs1x]

Phil - Can you point me in the direction to purchase a DragonMint?

Well  lets try this link

https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-16t-miner/

if not

https://myrig.com/


https://myrig.com/product/dragonmint-16-th-s/


after these two i don't know where else .

Thanks. I checked there. They look to be out of stock.

[soothaa]

Phil - have you tried S9s at Slush lately?

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/slush-pool-now-compatible-asicboost-miners/

Uhh.. are you trolling? That is horrible..

no looks like all  gear will go to asicboost see below:

I'm a dumbass and quoted the wrong message 

THIS is what I meant to quote!

1500w titanium psu at a steal guys

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KP8S83C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Uhh.. are you trolling? That is horrible..

[philipma1957]

Phil - have you tried S9s at Slush lately?

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/slush-pool-now-compatible-asicboost-miners/

Uhh.. are you trolling? That is horrible..

no looks like all  gear will go to asicboost see below:

I'm a dumbass and quoted the wrong message  

THIS is what I meant to quote!

1500w titanium psu at a steal guys

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KP8S83C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Uhh.. are you trolling? That is horrible..

well  the corsair goes for 450

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/ax1500i-digital-atx-power-supply-1500-watt-fully-modular-psu

the evga goes for 529
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-T2-1600-X1

the tokamak is 599

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182384&cm_re=tokamak-_-17-182-384-_-Product

so 399 is okay.

[soothaa]

I can get server grade PSUs with same wattage for half the price and longer/custom cables...

[philipma1957]

I can get server grade PSUs with same wattage for half the price and longer/custom cables...

Server grade PSUS simply can not be compared.
Basically you are comparing a pickup truck to a bmw sedan.
This is a complex subject but I will give it a shot.

The onda b250  8 full slot + 4  plug in jack board

Is the best board to use the 1500 watt atx on.

You can do 8 x 1080ti's set to 60% tdp    150 watts on smos pulls around 1300 watts
really low noise too.

1300 watts at the wall with 5200 sols

it is a quiet build.  

It is not what you build  so you are correct in that you have zero interest in the atx psu.

The only board  you really need the 1500/1600 watt atx for is the onda b250.

So if you don't use the board the atx has no value for you.

[xleejohnx]

here is my question...

its been a hard one for me to figure out.

should i join the asic side of mining?

[rs1x]

here is my question...

its been a hard one for me to figure out.

should i join the asic side of mining?

I was on the ASIC side, with ONE ASIC, and i sold it for some nice profit. 

I'm  a rookie compared to most here but here are some pro's/cons which i've found

Pro - usually simple setup, close to plug and play
pro - profits are usually okay


Con - if things break, you might be shipping back to china, and be without it for several weeks
Con - stuck on an algo, where as on GPU rigs you can switch around (if that's your kind of thing).


I'm sure some of the veterans here would have a lot more to add.

[cryptbro]

here is my question...

its been a hard one for me to figure out.

should i join the asic side of mining?

been contemplating/starting my research about this as well. main concerns being the next gen of asics coming out in the near future (i have no idea if they will) but philipmas explanation of how bitmain has very little economic motivation to do so at the time makes sense. asic prices are going down and im bored waiting for the gpus to follow so might get in line for an s9 and get some hands on experience before alt season starts. best way to learn is to try it yourself so i'll probably pull the trigger soon haha

[philipma1957]

here is my question...

its been a hard one for me to figure out.

should i join the asic side of mining?

Hard question.

easy short answer is yes.

be an inclusionist  <  not sure it is a word  but how about be diverse .

Down side  hot loud break easy  bitch to fix.

are you near a myrig/bitmainwarranty location  they are somewhat okay on repair.


I have next to zero basics right now.
  60gb in side hack usb sticks
32mh in jestanop usb sticks
coming in
1 bitmain L3+
1 dragon mint an if I like 4 more

that will be the power cap

28 1080ti's
and the 16 gpu beast will do the gpu end.

what is next just mine and hold until the fall.

[xleejohnx]

here is my question...

its been a hard one for me to figure out.

should i join the asic side of mining?

Hard question.

easy short answer is yes.

be an inclusionist  <  not sure it is a word  but how about be diverse .

Down side  hot loud break easy  bitch to fix.

are you near a myrig/bitmainwarranty location  they are somewhat okay on repair.


I have next to zero basics right now.
  60gb in side hack usb sticks
32mh in jestanop usb sticks
coming in
1 bitmain L3+
1 dragon mint an if I like 4 more

that will be the power cap

28 1080ti's
and the 16 gpu beast will do the gpu end.

what is next just mine and hold until the fall.

hard pick for me.
i would like 3 ltc miners and 3 btc miners but its hard for me to drop that money on miners that cant be fixed nor resold easily
i want more than just gpu miners but i love the resell of video cards

also i thought about going back to nice hash with all my miners any input would be awesome

any thoughts on that would be nice

[philipma1957]

here is my question...

its been a hard one for me to figure out.

should i join the asic side of mining?

Hard question.

easy short answer is yes.

be an inclusionist  <  not sure it is a word  but how about be diverse .

Down side  hot loud break easy  bitch to fix.

are you near a myrig/bitmainwarranty location  they are somewhat okay on repair.


I have next to zero basics right now.
  60gb in side hack usb sticks
32mh in jestanop usb sticks
coming in
1 bitmain L3+
1 dragon mint an if I like 4 more

that will be the power cap

28 1080ti's
and the 16 gpu beast will do the gpu end.

what is next just mine and hold until the fall.

hard pick for me.
i would like 3 ltc miners and 3 btc miners but its hard for me to drop that money on miners that cant be fixed nor resold easily
i want more than just gpu miners but i love the resell of video cards

also i thought about going back to nice hash with all my miners any input would be awesome

any thoughts on that would be nice

the solar array =  about 11000 sols  of zec 16x 1080ti's
https://www.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr


the 16 gpu review = about 4300 sols of zec 16x 106-100's
https://www.nicehash.com/miner/3QPFEdX8rtXHoVZHct5eUbp7AK1t1vRMfL

in house a few 1080tis 1200 sols of zec  and some gpus + cpus doing cryptonight  1200kh
https://www.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

in house 6 x 1080tis  about 4200 sols of zec
https://www.nicehash.com/miner/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3

around 21000 sols of zec pointed to nicehash

very little elsewhere

https://zpool.ca/?address=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


solo
http://ltc.tbdice.org/users.htm

MWxsXgQXomddd4kjpGynNUhaTeDpy4QZLi      Self   38.3M


and a little here

http://www.bravo-mining.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool



I can point to nicehash because I can take the loss if they are hacked.

I am mostly in cash + coin

[oomurashin]

Does antminer S9  correspond to overt ASIC BOOST?
Halong said "first" mining hardware. 
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/halong-mining-first-bitcoin-mining-hardware-producer-implement-overt-asicboost/

[citronick]

here is my question...

its been a hard one for me to figure out.

should i join the asic side of mining?

man doesn't live on bread alone...

[MagicSmoker]

I can get server grade PSUs with same wattage for half the price and longer/custom cables...

Server grade PSUS simply can not be compared.
Basically you are comparing a pickup truck to a bmw sedan.
This is a complex subject but I will give it a shot.

The onda b250  8 full slot + 4  plug in jack board

Is the best board to use the 1500 watt atx on.

You can do 8 x 1080ti's set to 60% tdp    150 watts on smos pulls around 1300 watts
really low noise too.
...

What makes the most sense to me for these multi-GPU, riserless boards - keeping in mind my relative rookie status/experience here - is to use a reasonable size ATX PSU for the board and to supply whatever fraction of power the GPUs consume from the PCIe slots (75W is the max specified, but usually only AMD comes anywhere close to that) and use a server PSU for the 8/6 pin power inlets on the GPUs. So far I've got (2) Onda D1800 rigs and the one with (6) GTX 1060 draws 600W total at the wall on Equihash, and that is almost evenly split between the 650W ATX and 750W HP server PSUs (I used a DC amp-clamp to verify current supplied by the server PSU [NB - I'm an EE, so have this kind of test equipment just laying around]). The economics of this system are not quite as good as they could be because both PSUs are running at <50% load and total cost was around $100, but it should be able to easily handle a 6x 1080ti rig and then it would be quite attractive.

[philipma1957]

I can get server grade PSUs with same wattage for half the price and longer/custom cables...

Server grade PSUS simply can not be compared.
Basically you are comparing a pickup truck to a bmw sedan.
This is a complex subject but I will give it a shot.

The onda b250  8 full slot + 4  plug in jack board

Is the best board to use the 1500 watt atx on.

You can do 8 x 1080ti's set to 60% tdp    150 watts on smos pulls around 1300 watts
really low noise too.
...

What makes the most sense to me for these multi-GPU, riserless boards - keeping in mind my relative rookie status/experience here - is to use a reasonable size ATX PSU for the board and to supply whatever fraction of power the GPUs consume from the PCIe slots (75W is the max specified, but usually only AMD comes anywhere close to that) and use a server PSU for the 8/6 pin power inlets on the GPUs. So far I've got (2) Onda D1800 rigs and the one with (6) GTX 1060 draws 600W total at the wall on Equihash, and that is almost evenly split between the 650W ATX and 750W HP server PSUs (I used a DC amp-clamp to verify current supplied by the server PSU [NB - I'm an EE, so have this kind of test equipment just laying around]). The economics of this system are not quite as good as they could be because both PSUs are running at <50% load and total cost was around $100, but it should be able to easily handle a 6x 1080ti rig and then it would be quite attractive.

will do 5 1080ti  when you go to six the cpu struggles.

[slackert]

Hey Phil, what fan speed do you set your hybrid 1080ti's at? My non hybrids are set to 78% but I'm thinking less % or auto for the hybrids?

[philipma1957]

Hey Phil, what fan speed do you set your hybrid 1080ti's at? My non hybrids are set to 78% but I'm thinking less % or auto for the hybrids?

you can do 50%