[ANN] [BTCP] BitcoinPrivate: A Truly Private Bitcoin [Equihash]

[ETP_mining_pool]

when i can mine BTCP?

Join pool: http://btcprivate.pro

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[Haze The Hobo]

Can you really be that ignorant? It is not the ZCL wallet that cannot handle the pressure. It's the exchanges wallet and their infrastructure behind that (databases and backend i.e.). Exchange wallets confirm withdraws and deposits differently than normal wallet to wallet transfer.. This issue has nothing to do with the coin infrastructure or private wallet.

Yeah, they have few hundred coins with more volume who are working without problem
Conspiracy against Zclassic ahah you are right

You really are one ignorant human being. Please go and educate yourself before posting.
If you cannot understand what you read, well that is your problem. ZCL is not the first and not the last coin that will have EXCHANGE end issues. This is similar scenario to what happened with LTC and Doge markets in Cryptopia. I'll just leave it here, tired of people who cannot use their brains.

Everything you need to know about these technical issues can be found here:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/News
https://www.coinbureau.com/news/bitcoin-private-fork-facing-zclassic-withdrawal-issues-exchanges/

For you, genius :
https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001271272

Additional technical notes:

The upstream project Zcash does not have these wallet issues as we worked closely with their team to implement the following changes:

Zcash GitHub issue 2446 - Add field indicating coinbase tx in output of listunspent

Zcash GitHub issue 2448 - Add an RPC function or flag to create a shielding transaction that only contains coinbase

The Zclassic codebase is behind the upstream Zcash codebase so it does not have these changes implemented. We have requested that the Zclassic team test and implement these changes ASAP.

Tell me it's infrastructures behind Bittrex or Cryptopia now.

It is exchange issue. They use Z wallet in a wrong manner. They skip a few steps as many other wallets work differently. Every new coin should go Z (private) first. Please don't try to be some master developer as you were a mere bounty hunter for BTCP team, if even that.
https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/2449

"Zcash has a consensus rule that coinbase UTXOs must be shielded. This causes problems for e.g. exchanges using the Bitcoin-inherited RPCs, where they run into errors. As the only way coinbase can be spent is via z_sendmany, it should never be considered for transparent RPCs.

We should modify the transparent coin selection rules used by the inherited transparent RPCs to exclude coinbase. One usability issue is that mining users might get confused if they can't spend everything they appear to have; we should ensure that if users try to spend more than can be funded without coinbase, but could be funded with coinbase, that they still receive an appropriate error."

#2448 - Miners sending NEWLY mined coins to an exchange, these should always go Z first then T. Educate yourself on how Zcoins work, before you come howling here. It is not Zclassic wallet issue, but purely exchange wallet issue as they only give public addresses to people.

"Requested by an exchange. If a miner is sending their mining rewards to an address, and they happen to receive a coinbase output instead of a regular mining payout, then it becomes almost impossible to send transactions from that address until the coinbase output has been shielded. But the Bitcoin-inherited RPCs make it very expensive (in terms of RPC time) to figure out which UTXOs are from coinbase."

[Seryvolk]

They promise to mix bitcoin and the technology of anonymity of payments SCES, the new coin will be very promising.

[memii]

At the moment discussions are going about the extreme changes in value of Zclassic are going on while the market is off for BTCP. After mainnet releases it will be up wherever be. It will be interesting to see if Bittrex opens its trades or not as in past they said no to BTG but later on they opened. It is matter of hours when things will start to be clear.

[noderunner]

The development team should update the thread with the exact time the main net mining goes live, or at least tell us that they plan on releasing the mining start time. Otherwise this gives a mining advantage to whomever knows the exact launch time.

Sure, “a couple of days” after the snapshot is fine when updating on final QA but they should elaborate on this exactly when things are ready, then give a definitive time (preferably at least a few hours) for the main net launch so all the miners can start the race at the same time. I know suprnova usually switches from test to main automatically which is a solution for some but does not address the core issue.

Unless there is another valid reason for this such as avoiding chain splits or 51% attacks?

[n1que]

Dead On Snapshot?

 

[xasterix]

just dead
before snapshot 

[Kompik]

The development team should update the thread with the exact time the main net mining goes live, or at least tell us that they plan on releasing the mining start time. Otherwise this gives a mining advantage to whomever knows the exact launch time.

Sure, “a couple of days” after the snapshot is fine when updating on final QA but they should elaborate on this exactly when things are ready, then give a definitive time (preferably at least a few hours) for the main net launch so all the miners can start the race at the same time. I know suprnova usually switches from test to main automatically which is a solution for some but does not address the core issue.

Unless there is another valid reason for this such as avoiding chain splits or 51% attacks?

I agree exact date is needed - not fair and dangerous otherwise.

[XCNP]

I didn't read whitepaper but can understand this so called privacy coin will be mixed or cloned from other coins. It is failed fork but good for Bitcoin community because these forks are loosing all the attraction so quickly one couldn't imagine to happen. There will be race among dumpers to get rid of these coins once the opportunity is given.

[mt55]

The price on Bittrex is amazing. It goes to show how Bittrex trades are fake bots. How the hell would buy at 3x the price of all other exchanges.

But I personally think the sell of on ZCL had no reason and the price could go back up to at least $80.

BTCP when starts trading could start at $200. Will see where it goes from there but if you ask me its at least worth as much as half of BCH or $600 so if starts trading at $200 it could run up after that.

If I remember correctly development for ZCL will stop completely. I doubt the price will go up again. Or has there someone been found now to continue the dev work?

[gonzx]

there is no btcp wallet yet ?

[cryptodunno]

there is no btcp wallet yet ?

looks like yes, and that`s weird
someone posted a link to a pool which refers to a paper wallet but not from official BTCP website, so i would be very careful with that

[JcJet]

The price on Bittrex is amazing. It goes to show how Bittrex trades are fake bots. How the hell would buy at 3x the price of all other exchanges.

But I personally think the sell of on ZCL had no reason and the price could go back up to at least $80.

BTCP when starts trading could start at $200. Will see where it goes from there but if you ask me its at least worth as much as half of BCH or $600 so if starts trading at $200 it could run up after that.

If I remember correctly development for ZCL will stop completely. I doubt the price will go up again. Or has there someone been found now to continue the dev work?

Yes, it will stop.
But the market sometimes is quite a funny thing, and stopped development might sometimes be better than continued but screwed up.
ZCL is a good foundation, without greedy lines of code of Zcash and Zencash. And it can survive as a starting point of some privacy hardforks and one of the "default" coin. It was pumped and dumped, nothing new or unusual.

[ophyrim]

Guys any official news about snapshot?
Today is the first day of March and if I have not missed something, there is no official news about snapshot and the date of bitcoin private fork.

[gonzx]

Guys any official news about snapshot?
Today is the first day of March and if I have not missed something, there is no official news about snapshot and the date of bitcoin private fork.

we forked.
you can import your bitcoin / zcl wallet here

https://bitcoinprivate-wallet.com

the mainnet launches on March 2nd

this is not the official site and not the wallet to download, and what is that "put private key" lol. You are a scam. I search and this is official:
https://support.btcprivate.org/358345-Bitcoin-Private-Electrum-Wallet---How-to-install-the-Wallet

Not avaible yet.

[rybaplmcteam]

Dev can you give us some answer about wallet ?

[All Time HIGH]

Good afternoon fellow future BTCPpimps!
Well this is my very first post, and i actually didn't expected that to be a announcement for a fresh BTCP mining pool. But hey you got to start somewhere ah =] 
Its my honor too as well to contribute to this very promising project!

So don't be shy fellaz and join us in order to gain more hashpower.
Get ur miners cocked & buckle up, the fork is within 24 hours.

Join us on Discord https://discord.gg/teWqxwH
or
http://btcp.mining-madness.com/
No fee


Many people are confused if there is a wallet or not.
Well to be loud and clear; there is. => https://github.com/BTCPrivate/electrum-btcp/releases
Released 3 days ago.
Dont panic if the sync doesn't work, the final launch of mainnet is required for that.

Happy mining & Peace out! 

[Ayms]

The development team should update the thread with the exact time the main net mining goes live, or at least tell us that they plan on releasing the mining start time. Otherwise this gives a mining advantage to whomever knows the exact launch time.

Sure, “a couple of days” after the snapshot is fine when updating on final QA but they should elaborate on this exactly when things are ready, then give a definitive time (preferably at least a few hours) for the main net launch so all the miners can start the race at the same time. I know suprnova usually switches from test to main automatically which is a solution for some but does not address the core issue.

Unless there is another valid reason for this such as avoiding chain splits or 51% attacks?

I agree exact date is needed - not fair and dangerous otherwise.

Fair normally for a fair fork (ie not premining or whatever) is to switch from testnet to mainnet, provide the full nodes addresses, a working explorer, a not scammy wallet, exchange, etc

The good reason for the delay is not a 51% attack, BTG had a 99.9 % "attack" from suprnova, and maybe the same will happen here, I think nobody cares, that's the interest of nobody to rewrite the chain in such a context

The good reason is maybe that they must merge the utxos of the two chains, but then they just should explain it, their white paper is a kind of technical overview for beginers mixed with some kind of Bitcoin history

One of the reason why I made the tool (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827163.msg31273044#msg31273044) is that you don't depend on anybody to move your coins (explorer, full node sync, wallet sync, etc), you can just do it by yourself as soon as mainnet is live using BTC and ZCL explorers


 

[Haze The Hobo]

DO NOT TRUST ANY OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT WALLETS THAN WHAT IS POSTED ON OFFICIAL BTCP PAGE!
Seems like scammers are trying to get your ZCL / BTC private keys, so they can claim your wallet as their own.

Official BTCP page: https://btcprivate.org/
https://support.btcprivate.org/358345-Bitcoin-Private-Electrum-Wallet---How-to-install-the-Wallet
"Note: At the time of publishing, the Bitcoin Private Wallet has not yet been released. These instructions are for future use."

Official BTCP GitHub: https://github.com/BTCPrivate/BitcoinPrivate
Official BTCP twitter: https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate

There will be official confirmation from BTCP dev team after wallet has been launched. Keep cool and wait for fork and mainnet launch. Before this you cannot get your BTCP and there won't be official wallet.

[rybaplmcteam]

DO NOT TRUST ANY OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT WALLETS THAN WHAT IS POSTED ON OFFICIAL BTCP PAGE!
Seems like scammers are trying to get your ZCL / BTC private keys, so they can claim your wallet as their own.

Official BTCP page: https://btcprivate.org/
https://support.btcprivate.org/358345-Bitcoin-Private-Electrum-Wallet---How-to-install-the-Wallet
"Note: At the time of publishing, the Bitcoin Private Wallet has not yet been released. These instructions are for future use."

Official BTCP GitHub: https://github.com/BTCPrivate/BitcoinPrivate
Official BTCP twitter: https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate

There will be official confirmation from BTCP dev team after wallet has been launched. Keep cool and wait for fork and mainnet launch. Before this you cannot get your BTCP and there won't be official wallet.

Good to know , on which specific time start mainnet ?