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January 17, 2018, 04:44:34 PM
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They have sold over 5000 A3s if this is their account 1NrMNvxsDwsQ9DA4styegmTue9tPPsV9bg

Someone was saying they sold 6000 to buyers in China already.. Any other users from China confirm this? If so can someone post the wallet address they wanted payment sent to for China customers?

China buyer is using same BCH wallet too?

What makes you think this is their wallet address?  I'm in the US and thats not the address I sent my funds to.  I think its pretty obvious they use some service that collects the money.  Everyone has to send to a unique address, otherwise how would they know you paid?

Someone earlier posted the wallet address.  They followed funds from a purchase to that address.  I'm assuming they create a wallet for you to send to, you send it, then it all gets sent to single wallet.  So if China got 6k payed by RMB, and everyone else used bch, then we are looking at over 10k units in first batch.  That is 13x what the current network is, so once first batch gets hooked up and mining, profit is immediately 1/13th of what calculators show.  So last night it showed about $500/day....Reality will be $38/day, or $1100 per month assuming no others come online.  Lets assume they do another 10k units in a month, now we are at $550/mo....Do it again next month, and we are at $225/mo.  So yeah, if they drop another 10k batch in next 30 days, you might get ROI in 3 months, another 10k after that, and.....

you math is way off, remeber they have been 'testing" these units for weeks most likely , so the true hash rate rise is probbaly closer to tripple or double.  Then factor in we are in a major crypto price crash, in 14 days when/if these arrive
you will be looking at close to double price wise on sia and verge so I would say you will still earn around $300 a day for the first month of that first batch

after that who knows
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January 17, 2018, 04:45:59 PM
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anyone know when batch 2 is gonna be available??
HAHAHA!!!! Soon.....very soon!! And batch 3 and batch 4 and batch 5 etc etc. LOL.

You only live once....if you do it right, once is enough.

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January 17, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
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Just got sms from bitman? what is this
How do you get an SMS?
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January 17, 2018, 04:50:50 PM
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Bitmain is in an all out war right now with competitors. These are not stupid people. They put on this benevolent front, but it's clear they are very ruthless. I don't admire that but I understand it. Just like Amazon, Google etc. These are the ways of today's greedy and commercially obsessed world. It's palpably ironic to see this play out in the very space that was invented to change exactly that. Conclusion......Human kind is hopeless.

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January 17, 2018, 05:07:52 PM
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Just got sms from bitman? what is this
How do you get an SMS?
I use an IFTTT applet that triggers whenever @BITMAINtech tweets, works fine.
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January 17, 2018, 05:26:06 PM
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Hello, I am selling one Antminer A3 without psu, brand new, directly in bitmain. Price is a lot lower than on ebay. 0.6 BTC. Please who is interested write to martiniilonciak@gmail.com

We can make a call or verification process to ensure you it is legit sale. I have no account on ebay and wanna simply sell this miner.

Waiting for your inquiries.
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January 17, 2018, 05:27:27 PM
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Hello, I am selling one Antminer A3 without psu, brand new, directly in bitmain. Price is a lot lower than on ebay. 0.6 BTC. Please who is interested write to martiniilonciak@gmail.com

We can make a call or verification process to ensure you it is legit sale. I have no account on ebay and wanna simply sell this miner.

Waiting for your inquiries.
0.6 BTC? You must be nuts.
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January 17, 2018, 05:29:37 PM
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They have sold over 5000 A3s if this is their account 1NrMNvxsDwsQ9DA4styegmTue9tPPsV9bg

Someone was saying they sold 6000 to buyers in China already.. Any other users from China confirm this? If so can someone post the wallet address they wanted payment sent to for China customers?

China buyer is using same BCH wallet too?

What makes you think this is their wallet address?  I'm in the US and thats not the address I sent my funds to.  I think its pretty obvious they use some service that collects the money.  Everyone has to send to a unique address, otherwise how would they know you paid?

Someone earlier posted the wallet address.  They followed funds from a purchase to that address.  I'm assuming they create a wallet for you to send to, you send it, then it all gets sent to single wallet.  So if China got 6k payed by RMB, and everyone else used bch, then we are looking at over 10k units in first batch.  That is 13x what the current network is, so once first batch gets hooked up and mining, profit is immediately 1/13th of what calculators show.  So last night it showed about $500/day....Reality will be $38/day, or $1100 per month assuming no others come online.  Lets assume they do another 10k units in a month, now we are at $550/mo....Do it again next month, and we are at $225/mo.  So yeah, if they drop another 10k batch in next 30 days, you might get ROI in 3 months, another 10k after that, and.....

you math is way off, remeber they have been 'testing" these units for weeks most likely , so the true hash rate rise is probbaly closer to tripple or double.  Then factor in we are in a major crypto price crash, in 14 days when/if these arrive
you will be looking at close to double price wise on sia and verge so I would say you will still earn around $300 a day for the first month of that first batch

after that who knows

If that is the case and they have been testing them, wouldn't it have shown up on the network already?  When I looked last night, sia network was only running at 675 TH/s total....Wouldn't 5k units show much more?
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January 17, 2018, 05:30:37 PM
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Hello, I am selling one Antminer A3 without psu, brand new, directly in bitmain. Price is a lot lower than on ebay. 0.6 BTC. Please who is interested write to martiniilonciak@gmail.com

We can make a call or verification process to ensure you it is legit sale. I have no account on ebay and wanna simply sell this miner.

Waiting for your inquiries.
0.6 BTC? You must be nuts.
I will give you 6 BTC
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January 17, 2018, 05:45:47 PM
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Hello, I am selling one Antminer A3 without psu, brand new, directly in bitmain. Price is a lot lower than on ebay. 0.6 BTC. Please who is interested write to martiniilonciak@gmail.com

We can make a call or verification process to ensure you it is legit sale. I have no account on ebay and wanna simply sell this miner.

Waiting for your inquiries.
0.6 BTC? You must be nuts.
I will give you 6 BTC

6 BTC!? For that I'll personally fly to China (business class) and pick one up for you. Deal?
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January 17, 2018, 05:55:07 PM
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Were anyone able to use coupons for this?

No...

I was able to use a $300 coupon but only 1 coupon.
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January 17, 2018, 05:59:48 PM
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Hello, I am selling one Antminer A3 without psu, brand new, directly in bitmain. Price is a lot lower than on ebay. 0.6 BTC. Please who is interested write to martiniilonciak@gmail.com

We can make a call or verification process to ensure you it is legit sale. I have no account on ebay and wanna simply sell this miner.

Waiting for your inquiries.
0.6 BTC? You must be nuts.
I will give you 6 BTC

6 BTC!? For that I'll personally fly to China (business class) and pick one up for you. Deal?
LOL!! I think he meant .6 HAHA!! If he didn't I'll sell 1 for 1.2 BTC. Won't even open it. Send it straight to you 2 day air included.

You only live once....if you do it right, once is enough.

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January 17, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
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wow! another asic for alt coin and the current profitability is off charts
roi in less than 5 days at current prices and difficulty
wait a few months and see the difficulty increase hundred fold and profit decrease hundred fold like d3
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January 17, 2018, 06:10:31 PM
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wow! another asic for alt coin and the current profitability is off charts
roi in less than 5 days at current prices and difficulty
wait a few months and see the difficulty increase hundred fold and profit decrease hundred fold like d3

Yeah... I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10 ft pole, same as the D3.

Even in this industry, a 5 day ROI is not believable.
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January 17, 2018, 06:33:58 PM
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SO...  What you are saying... :-)   Its not going to be profitable after the ROI but you will make your money back in quick enough time and the rest is gravy.....  So  if its 500 a day, for  8 days, and progressively tapers off to 50 a day... and at 50 a day it is still higher than bitcoin.  Yes, risky move, but like when I got the call at 2 am, I was told if you get batch 1, great, if not, never look at it again.  12 second decision on this might be awesome, but it might be bad.  But I know one thing, I will at least get my money back, either by running it, or selling it to another sucker locally who knows less then me!

A 3 for sale, anyone interested ;-)  I will sell it for 7200 Cnd. It will be shipped to western Canada.  I will ship anywhere, you just pay for the shipping you want too!

If the D3 was so bad, why is it still for sale?
If the A 3 is an acronym for A nother 3 - we are all screwed.

What ever happened to bitcoin when S9's were introduced? or s7, s5?  etc...  bitcoin is still around, yes difficulty is higher, but the same people said the same thing about that too.

Why would any company spend so much on R&D for the A3 knowing that it will flop?  Doesnt make sense.  Better yet, why would that other company make and plan to release asic for blake2b later this year?   Oh becuase there is no market for it... right?


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January 17, 2018, 06:50:47 PM
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Why would any company spend so much on R&D for the A3 knowing that it will flop? 

I don't think they care too much about how successful the miner will be in terms of ROI. They turned $13M worth of miners in 20 minutes... and if they do the same for batch 2, 3, 4, 5 etc, that alone will probably be worth way more than what they spent on R&D.
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January 17, 2018, 08:14:03 PM
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BTW here is a good site where you can model future Sia and Decred earnings with  Obelisk and Bitmain.  

Obelisk data are preloaded there, and I just added Bitmain.

If you estimate that Bitmain is also mining with his miners, and put 10000 miners in 1st batch, you will get profit of $1500 for the 1st month

Here is the link with my data loaded :

http://www.sialytics.com/sc1?state=eyJzdGFydERhdGUiOiIyMDE4LTAyLTEwIiwiZW5kRGF0ZSI6IjIwMTgtMDMtMTAiLCJzY1ByaWNlQXRTdGFydERhdGUiOjAuMDcsInNjUHJpY2VBdEVuZERhdGUiOjAuMDcsImhvc3RpbmdDb3N0IjowLCJlbGVjdHJpY2l0eUNvc3QiOjAuMSwib2JlbGlza0JhdGNoSW5mbyI6W3sibmFtZSI6IkJJVE1BSU4iLCJwb3dlclVzYWdlSW5XYXR0cyI6IjEyMDAiLCJ0b3RhbFVuaXRzIjoiMTAwMDAiLCJ5b3VyVW5pdHMiOjEsImRlbGl2ZXJ5RGF0ZSI6IjIwMTgtMDItMTAiLCJkZWxpdmVyeURhdGVVbml4IjoxNTE4MjEzNjAwLCJjb3N0UGVyVW5pdCI6IjI2MDAiLCJoYXNoUmF0ZVBlclVuaXQiOiI4MTUifSx7Im5hbWUiOiJPYmVsaXNrIFNDMSAtIEJhdGNoIDEiLCJwb3dlclVzYWdlSW5XYXR0cyI6NTAwLCJ0b3RhbFVuaXRzIjozNTk4LCJ5b3VyVW5pdHMiOjEsImRlbGl2ZXJ5RGF0ZSI6IjIwMTgtMDYtMzAiLCJkZWxpdmVyeURhdGVVbml4IjoxNTMwMzA2MDAwLCJoYXNoUmF0ZVBlclVuaXQiOjgwMCwiY29zdFBlclVuaXQiOjI0OTl9LHsibmFtZSI6Ik9iZWxpc2sgU0MxIC0gQmF0Y2ggMiIsInBvd2VyVXNhZ2VJbldhdHRzIjo1MDAsInRvdGFsVW5pdHMiOjYwMDAsInlvdXJVbml0cyI6MCwiZGVsaXZlcnlEYXRlIjoiMjAxOC0wOC0zMSIsImRlbGl2ZXJ5RGF0ZVVuaXgiOjE1MzU2NjI4MDAsImhhc2hSYXRlUGVyVW5pdCI6ODAwLCJjb3N0UGVyVW5pdCI6MTU5OX0seyJuYW1lIjoiUG9zc2libGUgT2JlbGlzayBDb21wZXRpdG9yIC0gQmF0Y2ggMSIsInBvd2VyVXNhZ2VJbldhdHRzIjo1MDAsInRvdGFsVW5pdHMiOjQwMDAsInlvdXJVbml0cyI6MCwiZGVsaXZlcnlEYXRlIjoiMjAxOC0wOS0wMSIsImRlbGl2ZXJ5RGF0ZVVuaXgiOjE1MzU3NDkyMDAsImhhc2hSYXRlUGVyVW5pdCI6MTYwMCwiY29zdFBlclVuaXQiOjE1OTl9LHsibmFtZSI6Ik9iZWxpc2sgU0MxIC0gQmF0Y2ggMyIsInBvd2VyVXNhZ2VJbldhdHRzIjo1MDAsInRvdGFsVW5pdHMiOjQwMDAsInlvdXJVbml0cyI6MCwiZGVsaXZlcnlEYXRlIjoiMjAxOC0xMC0zMSIsImRlbGl2ZXJ5RGF0ZVVuaXgiOjE1NDA5MzY4MDAsImhhc2hSYXRlUGVyVW5pdCI6ODAwLCJjb3N0UGVyVW5pdCI6MTU5OX1dLCJncHVIYXNoUmF0ZUluZm8iOlt7Imhhc2hSYXRlIjozMDAsImRhdGUiOiIyMDE4LTA2LTMwIiwiZGF0ZVVuaXgiOjE1MzAzMDYwMDB9LHsiaGFzaFJhdGUiOjAsImRhdGUiOiIyMDE4LTA3LTI4IiwiZGF0ZVVuaXgiOjE1MzI3MjUyMDB9XX0=



I don't think there will be 10000 pcs sold, but less...
I you read further posts, you could see that i predicted exact figure - 10000   Wink
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January 17, 2018, 08:45:16 PM
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Why would any company spend so much on R&D for the A3 knowing that it will flop? 

I don't think they care too much about how successful the miner will be in terms of ROI. They turned $13M worth of miners in 20 minutes... and if they do the same for batch 2, 3, 4, 5 etc, that alone will probably be worth way more than what they spent on R&D.

More or less, exactly. They make an unimaginable amount of money per year by simply selling the miners, not even including whatever it is they're mining with, god knows how much money they make with their farms.
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January 17, 2018, 10:11:28 PM
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SO...  What you are saying... :-)   Its not going to be profitable after the ROI but you will make your money back in quick enough time and the rest is gravy.....  So  if its 500 a day, for  8 days, and progressively tapers off to 50 a day... and at 50 a day it is still higher than bitcoin.  Yes, risky move, but like when I got the call at 2 am, I was told if you get batch 1, great, if not, never look at it again.  12 second decision on this might be awesome, but it might be bad.  But I know one thing, I will at least get my money back, either by running it, or selling it to another sucker locally who knows less then me!

A 3 for sale, anyone interested ;-)  I will sell it for 7200 Cnd. It will be shipped to western Canada.  I will ship anywhere, you just pay for the shipping you want too!

If the D3 was so bad, why is it still for sale?
If the A 3 is an acronym for A nother 3 - we are all screwed.

What ever happened to bitcoin when S9's were introduced? or s7, s5?  etc...  bitcoin is still around, yes difficulty is higher, but the same people said the same thing about that too.

Why would any company spend so much on R&D for the A3 knowing that it will flop?  Doesnt make sense.  Better yet, why would that other company make and plan to release asic for blake2b later this year?   Oh becuase there is no market for it... right?




It is is good question.  WHY would they make a miner for blake2b?
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January 17, 2018, 10:27:01 PM
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It is is good question.  WHY would they make a miner for blake2b?


I asked that a few pages back... seems kind of random. Someone else here suggested maybe its to f--k with the team behind Sia, who is also making miners? Seems petty to spend so much money on miners just to funk with a competitor... but with only ONE coin to mine on this machine, who knows? At least with D3's one could play an Altcoin game and mine a few other random things with it. This is literally a brick once profitability dies, and you don't even get to play with anything else. Just seems weird.

Oh well... they still make $10M selling them.
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