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January 26, 2018, 07:49:14 AM
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I like the idea too, some people will always try to trick the system though. One way to avoid it would be to limit the merit ooints someone can send to a single user. If you identify someone as a scammer you can also just give a single "- trust" rating to that individual. It protects the indivudual from a false claim. It would only be logic that it works also that way in the opposite direction, to protect the community from false + trust ratings such ad metit points.

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January 26, 2018, 07:55:49 AM
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Ofcourse every a change have pros and cons
Its good to decrease someone use lot of fake bitcointalk account but its not fair for someone who really do the bounty with only one account from newbie rank thats really hard to get 10 merit
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January 26, 2018, 08:05:35 AM
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Im newbie here and I saw merits.. I dont understand it.. I even research in google but I couldnt find any answer..

Merit is just a reward points you get for quality posts from orher users. Fraction of merit you receive become spendable so you can in turn reward posts of other users at will. Merit is also required to advance in ranking after jr.Member.
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January 26, 2018, 08:08:56 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
Because they deserved it. I believe a merit point is given because of they do a quality post. And I believe many trusted people will strongly disagree with the merit points seller, if someone caught selling and buying it I'm sure they will get a negative trust.
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January 26, 2018, 08:12:45 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

I dont see any bad image on a newbie having merit on their status as long as they contribute to the community. Yes it might be doubtful to think of it but what if these newbies post are far more contributory than those who are jr.member and above. So as long as they are not shit spammer then they deserve that merit.

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January 26, 2018, 08:16:33 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

We cannot control people from giving merit, no matter what your rank is you deserve merit as long as its reasonable. This is a great new system that everyone should work hard for. Giving merit to those people you think qualified is a must, it is meant to be spent since there is no benefit of hoarding. Its not good to sell your merit, you should be responsible for that and you might face consequences for that action.
this forum, staffs, moderators might already think about that and they are clever enough to see which one is abuse the system and which is not. so if that people think if they can  trade merit to another, it will be wrong decision

 
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January 26, 2018, 08:23:02 AM
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We oppose the merit system even if it has just been implemented without taking into consideration what benefits it can bring to this forum. Furthermore, we haven't even fully seen its effects whether bad or good, to assess it this early. We should give it time to see its effects that the moderators have envisioned because first of all, they would not have decided to implement it without assessing the cost-benefit it can bring.
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January 26, 2018, 08:32:50 AM
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I see that people who thought that merit system is good are more than 90% who are in ranks above or equal Sr. member.
I think if all people start from 0 merit this percentage in these ranks will drop down to 10% or less I am sure of it.
If these people are so sure this system is good, then everyone can start from 0 merit and we can see then really who has qualified posts who are not.
Starting someone from 10 or 100 or 1000 in merit system is not realistic.
If these ranks deserve 100 or more than we should see it in a short time also they can gain merits with their qualified posts after system start..
 
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January 26, 2018, 09:09:10 AM
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I don't have anything against the merit system. It's actually a good idea. Newbies should not be degraded because if they are really into this forum, they will be encouraged to level up themselves.
Number of spammers will decrease because they won't be able to make quality posts that much.
But there is one thing that can still be alarming aside from buying merit, multi account users might + merit their other account to acquire it.
Any thoughts about it ?
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January 26, 2018, 09:13:16 AM
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Still, we don't have much clarity on how this merit points will work, let the moderator give any update in this matter. Mean while start learning and start posting according to your rank.
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January 26, 2018, 09:15:49 AM
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This merit thing reminds me of other people saying that bitcoin is bad. Yes it will be unfair if people use it on evil purposes but I think we are over looking the positive side. Because of this merit thing we will now mostly see quality post instead of useless spam post. I think that is the main goal of this merit thing, to clean this forum. Since it is implemented already there is nothing we can do but to live with the change.
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January 26, 2018, 09:23:55 AM
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Lot of changes happened in this forum and i did not know what is next. The merit is to check the quality post of every individual here which is nice to know if our post is offensive or not.

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January 26, 2018, 09:37:25 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

Does it matter if they have merits even they are newbies? Anyone here can send merits to someone because they want to. As of now, I dont fully understand whats the use of merits in this forum because I havent read the announcement yet. But if it does not affect your rank activity in this forum just let them be.

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January 26, 2018, 12:26:09 PM
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So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.
you're right.
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January 26, 2018, 12:26:55 PM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

Does it matter if they have merits even they are newbies? Anyone here can send merits to someone because they want to. As of now, I dont fully understand whats the use of merits in this forum because I havent read the announcement yet. But if it does not affect your rank activity in this forum just let them be.

and they can sell it too Cheesy
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January 26, 2018, 12:41:35 PM
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I think the intention is good, but there might be some limitations. One easily can find that there are lots of post which are not upto that mark to get the merit point, are getting merit. For example- bounty managers are getting merit for just the announcement 'payment sent' or even 'Yes, you can all remove your signatures'.



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January 26, 2018, 12:44:02 PM
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I think the intention is good, but there might be some limitations. One easily can find that there are lots of post which are not upto that mark to get the merit point, are getting merit. For example- bounty managers are getting merit for just the announcement 'payment sent'.


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This new system indeed has good intentions, but will make the forums vulnerable to abuse. Just because people have high ranks doesn't mean that are 100% clean.
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January 26, 2018, 12:44:35 PM
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this rule poses a positive and negative side. merit is now more important than the amount of activity or posting. this can be positive. because this rule is a good idea to calculate everyone's contribution in this forum. But, on the other hand there is the possibility some people here can sell their merit to those who want it. and when buying and selling merit happens, of course that's not fair, because they get merit through shortcuts.
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January 26, 2018, 12:48:19 PM
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So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.
Yeah I think its not good, maybe those who are selling their merit should banned automatically or maybe have some warning. Buying merit is not good, merit should need to work hard before you can get it. Moderators should do something about this.
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January 26, 2018, 01:02:00 PM
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Though it can be done if someone wants to do it, but I don't think anyone would do it as long as they are not willing to get their accounts neg tagged. Because you cannot hide it if you you are giving Merits to someone. If a person gives Merit to a post which is not constructive and deserving, it will be clear that it was decided before, and if a person can do constructive posts he doesn't need to buy any.
And, there is a one more thing that prevents selling Merits, it is that you cannot generate Merits out of nowhere. Before, people used to create a lot of accounts and used to increase their activity points to reach a certain rank and then sell those accounts. Now if you create an account, it has 0 Merits, and it cannot go higher than Jr. member without getting any Merits. And I doubt if someone creates accounts for the only purpose of selling them later on can make quality posts to get Merits from other members.
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